husi, 14 Sep 2010Now when he has brought it up I feel it cant even run a good game well :( M disappointed, late... moreA little story that I learned about optimization.
I beta tested a game for PC called All Points Bulletin (APB).
The game ran on unreal engine, used on endless amounts of games, most of which had zero performance issues even if some of them looked simply stunning with huge amount of details. APB used the same engine, without looking particulary good, but it had alot of customization.
Anyways, many times I ran into posts on the beta forums with people complaining about horrible FPS/other performance. Often people had the exact same specs apart from like one component, the other guy had an ATI and the other one had an nVidia.
Even if the gfx cards were pretty much exactly as good, the nVidia guy would've had 30 more fps. Just cos he had an nVidia.
The game still struggles to run as well on ATI cards, I don't know if they didnt have the time to optimize it well or if it was hard, but just that one different component made it run from another planet.
Maybe asphalt was designed to run well on.. say.. Snapdragon and struggles with ARM 11 and dedicated GPU (other phones runnign asphalt dont have them, maybe it cant take use of the GPU atm)
Duel, 14 Sep 2010But hey camera is really awesome ;) i saw today here new shots, and i have to say they look st... moreIphone sucks! N8 is way better than iphone...
Does this phone have UMA?
husi, 14 Sep 2010Now when he has brought it up I feel it cant even run a good game well :( M disappointed, late... moreBut hey camera is really awesome ;) i saw today here new shots, and i have to say they look stunning, very good detail and sharp
Still waiting the real photos taken by average user, those photos looked very edited, if they are not, holy shit
Too bad i like my iphone more than N8 but i definately would take that camera to my iphone :)
Wheez, 14 Sep 2010How about NFS: Shift, then? (should come with the N8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-ZEfb... moreAlso, remember that most games wont have as much changing surroundings as driving games, I'd figure driving games are the toughest thing to run for devices like these.
husi, 14 Sep 2010Now when he has brought it up I feel it cant even run a good game well :( M disappointed, late... moreHow about NFS: Shift, then? (should come with the N8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-ZEfbJlh2s
I dont give any value to these games so I havnt followed the performances, but does the NFS: Shift run too low fps as well?
Now when he has brought it up I feel it cant even run a good game well :( M disappointed, lately I've been compromising alot with this phone and I get a feeling Im giving up too much in return of an excellent camera..Im not sure if its worth it anymore :(
vanil, 14 Sep 2010So if that game runs much smoother ALL others devices, i mean all
So can we say it's harder... moreIt's necessarily not harder, but optimizing games for all very different OSs (Symbian being the latest one being ported to, i believe) is not an overnight task.
For example, Symbian is coded with C++, but uses it's own, custom libraries to maximize resource efficiency. Maybe without those special libraries it wouldnt need much optimization, but without those, the Symbian would be quite resource heavy. And I rather have a well running phone in general in stead of one game running well :P
Wheez, 14 Sep 2010Specswise it should IMO run at least as well as it does on other devices. The GPU should do AL... moreSo if that game runs much smoother ALL others devices, i mean all
So can we say it's harder to make things run smooth on symbian than others phone?
That's not good thing for customer
I still would blame the old cpu, because even the palm pre uses arm8 and can run that game. If i remember correct N8 uses the old arm11 model?
no-one else dont use ARM11 anymore on hi end devices?
Vanil, 14 Sep 2010Finally i think i saw the last firmware version of asphalt 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc... morewhy don't you see for yourself the real thing first before you jump to such conclusion and judging people a liar?
and you make decision how good a phone is based on 1 game, like asphalt? wow o_O
check out new nokia phones nokia E7,C7,and C6
these price are pre-order price of nokia n8
Des divise is viry gud pri!
nokia spain launch n8 at 469€ in indian rupees is 27811 Rs
and also launch in portugal at 1,999zł in indian rupees is 30110 Rs.
Vanil, 14 Sep 2010Finally i think i saw the last firmware version of asphalt 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc... moreSpecswise it should IMO run at least as well as it does on other devices. The GPU should do ALOT in a game like that.
I'd still call it on lack of optimization/bad porting. Same thing can be seen in pic/video editor. Everything else in the OS/UI runs with like 60 fps, when you open either the pic or video editor, even in the simplest menu in there without actually editing, runs with like below 20 FPS.
There's no reason for the editors to run that slow, cos in the videos where they were opened were simply opened, nothing was actually being edited.
So I'd say those editors are also badly optimized, Asphalt could be the same thing.
Vanil, 14 Sep 2010Finally i think i saw the last firmware version of asphalt 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc... moreIt's not necessary the device, it could be a badly ported game as well. A good device can't always compensate for badly optimized software.
As for when I've said it doesn't need 1ghz processor is cos it doesnt for what I use it for. And sadly, probably the only thing I will not do on a mobile phone is play games.
nokia n8 launch in netherlands at €429 in indian is 25439k
nokia is also launch c7 at same price in netherlands,
for more detail check this link.
http://shop.nokia.nl/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/GOSPOnlineStoreHomeDisplay?storeId=10505&catalogId=10110&langId=-19
@Husi
Buy the N8... Simply because the OS in both is the same, there a few differences apart from the Qwerty Keyboard and honestly, havin a physical keyboard in a phone makes it nearly 50gs heavier and it hesitates going into your pocket -_-! The camera well sint 8 mps enough? But 12 mp cam just sounds cool :P
@Anonymous
Well cant say anything about Symbian 3 yet but Android still comes second after iOS in my list simply because of the navigation i mean street view and all that other load adds a new experience to navigation... concerning Apps its got quite a few now, most of them are free and the OS itself is 'light' and it aint buggy... Symbian is just a simple OS, its got no great apps(not as great as Android or iOS) and its somewhat easier to get along with...
Hope that helps :)
Finally i think i saw the last firmware version of asphalt 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc0iKEtfZQs
Holy shit thats much much worse than what i expected
It's one big laggy video
i kind a believed nokia fans when they first time sayed its not final version so that's why its slow. But i dont see any improvement on speed after three months.
All the nokia boys lie to me and say but it has huge gpu and it doesnt need more power, i'm pissed off, that game runs much smoother with two years old palm pre.
Now i stop believing those fairytales.
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