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Anonymous, 26 Aug 2010The world is full of sheepies, what can you say. Just cause iPhone sells more doesn't means... moresay all you want you iphone hater and let me ask u something if you were a mobile company wouldn't you wanna create a phone everyone love some u can make alot of $$$? and make peoples in this world yell out your company's name "THE BEST." Thats all you need to know and hopely that solve ur issue with hating on iphone .
Wheez, 25 Aug 2010Without commenting much on what you said about the other things, I think it's a worthwhile thi... morei respect that you wrote so much pal and yess everything you said is true ... im not saying Nokia N8 is bad.. or a bad money that cant make money .. im just saying ITS NOT ENOUGH TO Put the win against the Iphone 4 .. and guess wat the Iphone 4 White will be release when that Nokia N8 be release too .. so its gonna be tuff and plus im saying As of now the IPHONE 4 is the smartphone king .. look at all over the world mobile news.. its all about IPHONE right .. and theres soo many people against the IPHONE right just cause they cant accept the fact that Apple make soo much money off from iphone. Like i said Iphone 4 is the legend for now.. im saying for now .. untill One SUPER smartphone in the future will take its title. Also remember that Iphone will always upgrade so see.. still tuff but i believe one day there will be a warrior to hold iphone throne just not now and not by a long shot ;)
Anonymous, 25 Aug 2010Go back to your Samsung & HTC Crapjams.....LOLThanks for your long post man thats just what i was asking for.
Now i'm even more jealous that you will def be getting it before me because of where you live!
My N95 8gb will have to do me for now -its very old (but still good and good enough for me to view and write these post's)
I'll just keep reading and waiting....
Anonymous, 26 Aug 2010The world is full of sheepies, what can you say. Just cause iPhone sells more doesn't means... morewhich smartphone make the most $$$ = the KING OF all Smartphones .. hate it or love it ... your just a IPHONE hater so even if the FACTS is there you'll still disagree with it .. am i right? .. yeah thats wat i thought
Comparing phones is OK i guess, if you actually compare the phones in a constructive manner. Simply "IPHONE 4 IS THE BEST SMARTPHONE IN THE WORLD THATS THE FACT, TRUTH HURTS RIGHT?!" is nothing like comparing phones or constructive either.
Stuff like that is OK if you go on the iphone page, but this is the N8 page, not the iPhone page.
If you wanna actually start breaking down objectively in what is iphone 4 actually better in, then it's ok. But that one sided apple fanboyism doesn't belong here unless it really starts having something to do with the N8.
The Facts, 25 Aug 2010I dont know wat you mean by that.. but all i know is that im located in wisconsin madison and ... moreThe world is full of sheepies, what can you say.
Just cause iPhone sells more doesn't means i'ts better. It has sold more than the Nexus One or EVO I'm sure, but those phones will kick iPhones ASS to Kingdom Come in EVERY phase of performance AND capability
iPhone may be the best selling smart phone, but it isn't the best.
Not by a long shot
The truth hurts, doesn't it.
But keep drinking Job's Kool Aid....LOL
blah blah, 25 Aug 2010aahaa let's see Iphone6, but will everyone be able to make a call? or does steve jobs is alrea... moreSeen like ur a iPhone Hater its okay if you hate on people who like iphone or hate the iphone.. because the fact is that you cant accept the Truth because it hurts... Like i said Earlier to everyone Iphone 4 is the best SmartPhone in the world as of NOW ... this doesnt mean it will hold its title forever.. it just mean as OF NOWW untill someone Takes Iphone 4's throne. Steves Jobs here and there thats all i here from iphone haters ... cant you at least studies and see the FACTS before u start hating on a phone. I swear i dont know why people are so against Iphone N their only and always reason for Hating on Iphone is Drop calls, Bad recep, Bad antenna issue.
p.kanagaraj, 25 Aug 2010guys, why are you fighting for this outdated,low resolution,under power n8.this model for the ... moreyour talking as if speeds is what a phone better than another?
its a mobile not a pc, there is alot to compare apart from the processor..
-Body, looks, quality, colors, uniqueness
-GPS performance, GPS program
-quality of apps
-Functions the operating system offers
- UI, looks? simplicity(for new noobs)
-features, + free features
and so on
the list goes on, yes N8 is defeated at "few" of the prevoius points, but it still tops all of the "new" mobiles in "most" of the points mentioned above... and so, people would buy...
8ghz processor is worthless on dos..
also a 200mhz processor can be as fast as a 8ghz on dos...
The Facts, 25 Aug 2010this phone is good in its specs and its UI but as of now Iphone 4 still is the best smartphone... moreWithout commenting much on what you said about the other things, I think it's a worthwhile thing to notice that the N8 here has close to 4,2 mil hits and theres still easily a month to the phones release.
iPhone 3GS seemed to have like 4,9 mil hits and it's like 1 year and few months old. The iPhone 4 had less than 3 million hits and it's been out 3-4 months soon.
So obviously the hits on this site are sort of favoring the N8. However it's not that black and white, I agree. I could figure more tech oriented people sort of going for the N8, while the iphone appeals to lots of people who would never come to a site like this. Also I think the N8 has been in "announced" state longer than the iphone 3GS and 4 were combined, so might be that after release the amount of hits will drastically fall.
Either way, the numbers show huge interest towards the N8, in relation alot bigger than the iPhone seems to have here. Although personally I think OVI store will not match iTunes in apps and all that other useless junk, but time will tell and the numbers are really looking good for the N8. It may never grow as big as the iTunes, but I think we have certainly the ingredients to make it huge.
As for the speed and smoothness of the iPhone, certainly! I briefly used an iPhone 3GS some weeks back and man, it really was smooth and felt fast. However I think the "slowness" of the N8 comes mainly from one factor. Although I could probably agree that the iphones REALLY are faster (they are also alot more stripped down of features and what not), but one huge thing that makes it seem like this, is the lack of transition animation on the N8.
I mean, which one feels faster. Staring at still screen and then the application or whatever pops up on the screen, or giving a command to open an app, watch a smooth transition animation of some sort and then the app is there. The time spent waiting might be the same, but it just felt faster cos you actually saw something being done. It also feels more natural like "naturally that screen has to get out of the way for the other to go in there!" rather than the "wait and pop" nature of the Symbian.
Also one thing in the youtube videos what makes the N8 feel slow-responding is the way they made the homescreen changing for some reason. Instead of being "real time" and following the finger like seen for example on Android phones, in N8 it doesn't do that. When it recognizes the horizontal swipe as a command to change home screens, it does it all nice and smooth. But it seems to appear with a slight delay, unlike with said android phones where the movement starts instantly and real time with your finger.
However this is not due to the N8 not being capable of doing that. You can find that same real time, finger following movement/swapping in ie. picture gallery where you can do the exact same thing and it's all smooth and fast. I'm not saying this is a good feature or a right way to do it with the homescreens and IMO the same "real time" action would've been better, but I just wanted to correct so people don't think the phone responds slowly. It's just the way it has been designed.. for whatever reason. This MAY change before the retail build, I hope it would, but certainly not the end of the world if it wont. And if you don't like the delay, theres a button in the bottom middle of the homescreen with 3 dots. That instantly (and certainly responds fast) changes the homescreen if you dislike the "delay" with the swipe action.
Another thing that makes this phone look bad in same videos in terms of responsiveness is the pinch to zoom while not holding the phone. It's a common sight in videos when the person is trying hold a camera in their hand and then single handedly operate the phone. I can't confirm this, but I was told that all smartphones somewhat have this same issue and it has something to do with the phone not being grounded, so the multitouch has troubles working. However, when the phone is held in hand, it works with like 100% accuracy and reliability. Naturally I can come up with uses where I wanna pinch to zoom with just one hand, but most of the time I'd end up using it with two hands anyway.
In the earlier long write-up I did, you might notice I didn't mention games or "fun" applications, it's cos especially games hold very little to no value for me on mobile phones. I love gaming on a computer, but not on a mobile phone. If I have the spare time, I rather browse the forums of the games I play than play some crappy (i classify em crappy as long as it's a handset :D) game that is more or less awkward to play on a phone.
Anonymous, 25 Aug 2010iPhone is king and the only good thing you see on this phone is the camera? What about the ... moreI dont know wat you mean by that.. but all i know is that im located in wisconsin madison and my iphone 4 never drop a call and the bar only drop two at most .. and no i dont use a case to cover up my iphone i just think thats bulky and lame. Don't know wat your trying to say brother but my iphone make calls anyday anytime and anywhere ... Oh and did you know the specs inside the iphone 4 is also better then the Nokia N8 sorry if i offened u by saying Iphone 4 is the best smartphone in the world... its the FACTS no need to argue dude. Incase u dont know 1.7 million iphone 4 is sold on the first 3 days Iphone 4 is release... YESS FACTS HURTS DOESN't IT.
[deleted post]aahaa let's see Iphone6, but will everyone be able to make a call? or does steve jobs is already making up videos to show other's can and they can not. Dude how about if I give you a powerful(core i7+8gbram+any kind of graphics card you want) without a battery and a I will tell you to stick with a 56kb Internet connection for the rest of your life, would you use it, of course you will if and only if you are an APPLE Ifan...
its abvious that the more ram and the bigger the processor the better.but the thing with simbyan is that it works with a 600 mghz and 256 ram as fast as a android with a 800 mghz and 512 ram.and if you want to talk about windos mobile its event worst.for example i have a phone with 256 ram and 500 and something processor with windows 6.1 and it takes 2 minutes to start the phone.it works a lot slower then a nokia N73 wich has a 282 processor and 64 ram.use simbyan first and then talk about wich is better.i have use LG,SAMSUNG,SONYERRICSON, NOKIA, ALCATEL, ACER and the best were nokia phones.its a matter of taste 2 but before sayng wich one is better try using at least 4 brands and then make a decision.
The Facts, 25 Aug 2010this phone is good in its specs and its UI but as of now Iphone 4 still is the best smartphone... moreiPhone is king and the only good thing you see on this phone is the camera?
What about the ability to make a phone call?
Wheez, 25 Aug 2010I don't directly work for Nokia, but I've worked the past few years as security at a Nokia fac... moreThanks for the synopsis....Good read.
I'm jealous cause you were able to order a Blue one!
Nokia is not initially offering all of the colors for the U.S!
What's up with that Nokia!
this phone is good in its specs and its UI but as of now Iphone 4 still is the best smartphone in the world and it still holding its golden belt. It's all about apps, software user friendly, and smoothness in Speed that catches the heart of peoples. The ONLY thing i see good in this N8 is its Camera .. but im sorrie i rather pick 30FPS 5MP Iphone 4 over 25FPS 12MP Nokia N8... plus Apple got many apps n better UI then Nokia .. sorrie but this is the FACTS.
Dwane, 25 Aug 2010Yo man you support Nokia harder than a die hard football fan supports his football team. What'... moreI don't directly work for Nokia, but I've worked the past few years as security at a Nokia factor (same one that is manufacturing N8s), so while I am sort of biased (also being finnish and from the same city Nokias mobile phone business started from), I'm definitely not getting paid to talk good about Nokia here :D
I'm doing it cos I was so totally sold after trying this phone myself. I had no intentions of buying any smart phones, cos I have quite little use for one and my old E65 is still working nicely (does most of the basic functions awesomely, looks nice and can even browse the internet pretty well when needed).
The weight seemed very nice and sort of comforting in hand. Not too heavy, but just right to make it feel sturdy. The aluminium cases are a very nice thing both for durability and for looks if you ask me. That build of the phone worked very smoothly with no slowness or hanging to be seen. I think the shape and size is very nice, it's subtle but not too boring (like I find some of the newer android phones completely dull, iPhone looks pretty dull too) as well as the colour options are awesome. Personally I preordered a blue one.
Having only used Nokia phones (but no real high end smartphones (last two phones being 6111 and E65), the UI felt natural and I guess I'm just too used to the menu full Nokia and Windows products to get no feeling of any complicated bloated menus that some people seem to be complaining about.
The touch screen didn't give me any "misses" when I was using it, everything worked just the way I wanted it to, the screen looked crisp and nice.
I didn't try the HDMI thing personally, but a rep was showing on the other table how it works. The N8 was connected to a big ass HD TV and he was browsing a local tabloid magazines pages that are very full of pics and all kinds of flash ads etc (www.iltalehti.fi) and he wasn't using it in the mobile edition although it offers one, but the same view that you get when you access it with a computer, so a lot heavier. When the page had loaded, everything worked nice and smooth, pinch to zooms etc included.
I think the homescreens are genious, while certainly not a new invention (like familiar from Androids too), but as you can see in that pic in the upper left corner of this page. Basically anything there is clickable. Like the date, not only it shows you the date, but when you open it, you get a calendar. Same for the clock, it opens you the alarm clock etc. Changing from general to silent/offline/etc modes is also just a touch away in that basic screen. Sure, some android devices have like 7 home screens, personally I wouldn't find use for just that many, but when you have the middle one in active use in the N8, you can have some sort of different themes to the left and right. Like if u change to the left homescreen, you could have emails and internet browsing related stuff and to the right you could have.. I don't know, media related stuff?
This combined with a 12mpix camera with real optics and a big sensor, I certainly won't be needing a digital camera apart from my phone as well as I can use it in the university by taking a pic of the memos on the wall and save my hand from typing it all down manually :D On the way home (train), I can crop the images so that I cut out the surroundings and I can have a image that is ready to be printed if I feel like it, cos I probably wouldn't wanna study from a 3½" screen :D
Then little clever decisions (that are IMO the reason why Nokia is the market leader, maybe not in smartphones, but overall) like finally getting a 3,5mm audio jack, something I wouldve wanted in my E65, cos those special handsfree plugs were so damn expensive and only used in like few models, that's why I havn't been even listening to music anymore cos I didn't have headphones for my phone and I didn't wanna buy a new MP3 player either. Another thing being the low'ish specs. While it doesn't look good on paper, I know it's sufficient. That all adds up to battery life, the MOST important feature for me in a mobile PHONE is that I can contact and I can be contacted. I don't need a mobile phone that has as much power as my computer but a 4h battery life instead. Another thing being is simple things like reliability in calls and messages and all that. Allthough they arn't talked about alot, even by me, they are still by far the most important feature for me. No matter how cool menu a phone has, it can never compensate for lost/cut calls (O hello iPhone 4).
Only downside I can figure out for it is the top and bottom caps being plastic, but it's a "sacrifice" they have to make for better reception, cos they arn't going to do "iPhone 4"s :D Another one being that it still isn't exactly cheap, which normally wouldn't be a problem, but I basically quit working there full hours cos I'm heading to university next monday.
I just love simply just about everything in the N8. From the looks to the function. I hope this long (but sort of obvious too) reply answers to your question :D