So many people here is complaining about Symbian OS... But being a Symbian user for years, I really can't complain that it's a less powerful OS... Not at all...!
Some other people are waiting for Symbian 4 in a situation where even the first Symbian 3 device hasn't been released yet...! Very funny...!
Let me tell you... Microsoft Windows XP came to the market at 2001 and it was very popular since then... Vista came around 2006 and then Windows 7 came on 2009... BUT so many computer experts in Sri Lanka are still using same old Windows XP which is 9 years old now...! So nobody can't say with the introduction of a New OS, the old OS will be obsolete... No... It won't happen... (I'm pretty sure of it...)
My next point is, regarding the software developers... If I were a software developer I would love to see my software are being popular... Remember... Developers don't care about the age of the OS.. They only care about the popularity of the OS... For an example, Meego is a great OS... But 3rd party software is Very very less compared to Symbian... Why...? Because Meego is not so popular... But Nokia N8 will be popular and it's showing every sign that it'll be a market hit on Nokia's history... So I'm pretty sure, Developers will be very glad to make software for Symbian 3 by just looking at the demand of the mobile... (Nokia 5800 is the first Nokia touchscreen phone... and first S60 V5 device... but within a year, it was one of the OS which has plenty of 3rd party software...! Why...? Because developers saw the demand & popularity of 5800 and they created loads of software accordingly...)
My third point is, even though software developers wants to create software for Symbian 4, they'll do that with the compatibility of Symbian 3 because that way they'll have the both OS market... Get what I'm saying...? That's why Windows software always comes with these words... "Compatible with XP, Vista and 7" that way they can have all three markets...! So I don't really think, any software developer will create software only for Symbian 4 while knowing about the popularity of Symbian 3 Nokia N8...! (They are not that fool...)
My last point is, even though there are rumors that Symbian 4 will be released on 2011... I really don't think that's possible... Even though it's possible I really don't think Nokia will release a Symbian 4 device that quickly because as we all know, Nokia is not so hurry to release new models with new OS... They do lots of researching before releasing a produce unlike Samsung or any other brand... So my best guess for first Nokia Symbian 4 device is on 2013... If you don't believe me, you can wait and see...
I think I made my points very clearly here... I could be wrong.. My knowledge may be very limited... (So I would like to know your opinion too...)
Special Note for "Engineer Man" brother...:
YOU'RE BEING VERY HELPFUL HERE... APPRECIATE YOUR POSTS A LOT... I'M A FAN OF YOU AND READ ALL YOUR POSTS... THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING A HUMAN BEING...
> I am seriously considering buying an N8 now I have flip flopped the idea between then when it was announced and now and pretty much ruled it out a while ago
Why are you writing for a Nokia blog then?
> after using other platforms for extensive periods I don’t see a huge difference between them and Symbian
REALLY? I do. And I’ve been a software developer 27 years, so know a good system when I see it. Android is technically limited and pretty basic in it’s user experience. iPhone is little more than a Fisher-Price Toy (“My First Phone” for babies). iPhone has contributed some good user interface design features, and Android has contributed nothing but competition, but Symbian is MILES ahead.
You don’t need to be a Nokia fanboy, and it’s good you’re not, but you ruled out an N8?!
I wish more people would realize that.
Symbian is POWERFUL, the only OS with a real multitasking… and it’s got features and functions way above of what Android and iOS(lol) offer.
However, it’s still lacking in the UI department, I like the setup(system layout)… homescreens with widgets + if you don’t want that, there is a traditional Symbian “Menu” but small things need improvement(like for example parsing phone numbers and links in the “Notes” application), needs more smoothness and responsiveness.
> iPhone is little more than a Fisher-Price Toy (“My First Phone” for babies).
That’s why the iPhone is doing so badly! You should write to Steve Jobs and set him straight. He’ll probably thank you.
Seriously. All you are showing here is your snobbery and trying desperately to prove that you are superior. The iPhone is winning because it brought mobile data and apps to the masses, something Nokia tried to do and failed. The features in which Symbian is “miles ahead” turned out not to matter.
Try not to be a people-hater.
I have to say that having only really become a mobile gimp this year, I’ve found the evolution of the n8 very interesting. From looking terrible early on, to the latest video which has it looking pretty smart, it’s left me feeling a bit regretful that I won’t be buying it. But then again, if I did buy it, it’s almost a certainty that I’d be feeling the same regret about the N9 and MeeGo.
nintendo is quite big to be bought by nokia or other companies, but you’re right mobile phones become more like game consoles. a future collaboration between these 2 companies could release an interesting product. The first thing that came through my mind is a nintendo wii based on meego, and to have a synchronization between meego devices. so you can use your phone as a gaming pad :) ) plus there will be meego for TV so there will be also a synchronization between wii and the TV, and the list can continue.
Nintendo builds the gaming console, Nokia build the synchronization system , apps already build for meego can work on wii and also games build on vii can work on mobile phones.
What do you think about my idea?
I assure you it is not like that as you thought. When you quickly browse the long contact list, it will pop up the first letter of family name on the flt to remind you where you are now. When search for a certain people and you enter the search string, it will pop up the choices on the fly already.
These functionalities are the ones of those many small surprises I mentioned earlier.
N8 is really way much more user friendly than all other phones. Believe me!
glad to see the n8 responsive. The speed of the N8 in that vdo must have bought smiles to many symbian users.
The only thing i hated was the contacts search via alphabet options… it’s too slow for actual usage and you have to keep your eyes scanning the screen for the next alphabet. A portrait qwerty or t9 bar would have been better.
I just checked the search function again. It is really good. It supports name search. The keyboard narrows down the possible string input while it offers the matching results on the fly.
For dialer, when you enter a number or a string, it prompts the list of names that match the number or the string on the fly as well.
N8 is going to be the best Nokia ever! I love the design the colors the camera the fast response of the device, the amazing conectivity….everything!
n8 is better than iphone 4
Nokia N8 Dropped From Balcony Hits Concrete 3 Meters Below - Survives!!
wow. its really worth buying.
i hope to see a review from Gsmarena? OKAY?
No, this isn’t true, Symbian^4 don’t need a lot of ram and more powerfull processor, because Symbian^4 can work on the 100 euro devises, theses devises at 100 euro can’t have 512 RAM and more powerfull processor.
Technically, the N8 can run perfectly Symbian^4, Symbian is very optimized and don’t need a very powerfull phone (like the needs of Android 2.2 or windows mobile 7), and Symbian^4 will need less ressources than Symbian^3 and will offer more amazing features and a new excellent UI that rival with Android and iOS, Symbian^4 will be the new “renaissance” of Symbian.
Symbian Foundation said that the Symbian^3 is only an intermediate version, the major version with the big amount of new features and the full remaked UI will be Symbian^4, Symbian^4 is the major version of Symbian
we hope that Nokia make decision to upgrade N8 to Symbian^4, this will be the most good news of N8 and for all Nokia fanboys
P.S: Nokia, limit the publisher content for N8 in ovi store to Qt applications only, then all new applications developed for N8 will work with Symbian^4 or it will be very easy to port them to Symbian^4, and then you can upgrade N8 safely to Symbian^4
please see the example of Android updates and iOS updates
On the CPU: the ARM 11 core is underclocked to 680MHz. The default is apparently 750MHz which could be safely overclocked to 850MHz. Now we could argue that for S^3, CPU numbers isn’t all that important (and less so, comparison of CPU hardware with other devices on other platforms as Symbian is extremely optimized to run on less demanding hardware – hence democratization of the smartphone with MeeGo to push the hardware hungry devices.).
On the GPU: it’s suspected that the N8 has a class leading Broadcom BCM2727 GPU, which at the time was shown to pull in more triangles than any other competing phone. This is important for Symbian^3 as it is a GPU accelerated UI, relying more on the GPU than the CPU.
RAM: 256MB. For multitasking, will this be enough? The N900 is a multitasking beast and that has “only” 256MB (though there is +768MB virtual RAM and is on Maemo). Some could argue again that Symbian is more flexible in coping on less RAM. Very early videos has shown the N8 running 15 apps simultaneously with no speed decrease. But what happens when more RAM hungry apps come out?
dont buy android phone
gameloft and other developer slowly stop making app/game for android platform.
if you dont belive me search in net
Anonymous, 14 Aug 2010Can I have an answer to my question please? What is the point of having a s3 phone when s4 ... moreWell that is simply because all of us hold a believe that the N8 will get an update to upgrade to S^4. It is not totally impossible. Since it is also one of the Nseries, thus the probability of it getting S^4 is not impossible. Still, S^3 seems rather nice and I won't mind to play with it for a couple of months while waiting for Nokia to release S^4 update for N8. =)
SidewindeR, 14 Aug 2010This is the ultimate in mobile entertainment. N8 is truly built with entertainment as the no:1... moreyou are posting a negative comments on samsung phones,so what do you expect from samsung users ?
it is not wise to say that N8 is better than Galaxy S and Wave combined especially when the n8 is still not released yet with many doubts about the symbian3 performance.
also you should have a look on the super amoled screen(not through your laptop screen)before posting your negative comments.
Can I have an answer to my question please?
What is the point of having a s3 phone when s4 is already planned and when both are being trumped by meego. I just dont get it. Why doesn't this worry anyone at all?
Dwane, 14 Aug 2010Re below its actually 'Warning tones' that needs to be set to off. I have a profile with all ... moreYes u r right, no camera shutter noise with warning tones set to off on my N97. Thanks.
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its actually 'Warning tones' that needs to be set to off. I have a profile with all noise turned off and thats how I found this out (ages ago)
hope that helps people
Engineer Man, 13 Aug 2010Nokia N8 is not the first first device to offer DOLBY DIGITAL PLUS 5.1 multi channel surround ... moreThis is the ultimate in mobile entertainment. N8 is truly built with entertainment as the no:1 priority unlike android yet it still poses a threat in every segment and all samsung fanboys are feeling the pressure. This being the reason for their negative comments. N8 is better than GAlaxy S and Wave combined.
For the time being the N9 is labeled as having S^3 but I thought should be getting Meego. I also thought the N9 changed from class N to something else.I guesse their are no facts & some of these details are not conclusive yet.
Has anyone else thought over this & come to the same reasonable conclusion as I have?
There is something of a possibility of N8 geting S^4, but because it's not ready yet & new in the eco system aswell as the N8 being new in the eco system, then S^3 might do for now. I'm not implying anything really. This is a guesse. But it sounds reasonable to think that N8 may get update to S^4 as modern N series get S^4 & lower C series get S^3!....?? :)
Symbian^4 brings a complete redesign in the Symbian UI. So Symbian^4 will break application compatiblity with S60. Symbian^4 is expected in 2010. It will feature Direct UI - a complete makeover of the touch UI, Qt as the primary runtime and the majority of SHAI in place, making hardware adaptation easier than ever before. So a complete start over then.
I don't know of any phones planned yet for S^4. But we do know phones planned for Meego for high end market. S^3 will be released on the N8 as upper midrange high end. After that S^3 will probably be moved down to lower C series lower or midrange phone.
This means N series may get S^4 after the Nokia N8,
There will be one more series added to the model range. Not sure what it is but the rumoured N9 is probably not an N series phone. This means that Meego will go onto the New high End Series phone.
Anonymous, 13 Aug 2010I'm afraid you can't turn off the noise that Nokia's make (camera)! :O( yes u can, u can install a patch, some dont require hacking, only certificates,
which aint that hard unless ur a noob, which probably mean symbian aint for u in the first place
but i agree, it sux that u have to go through all that, but i think its due to euro law and shit :S