Two important Questions :
1. Is the Menu Button made of Aluminium or Plastics ?
2.Will be there divx support ?
Anonymous, 07 Aug 2010N8 is blind buy for me if usb printer could be attached. I use desktop for printing purpose on... moreHi, Follow this link and ask it to Damian Dinning. I am pretty sure he will try to help you.. http://twitter.com/phonedaz
Nuwan, 07 Aug 2010Dear friend, As I said brother, I'm pretty sure if the supporting drivers are provided we c... moreN8 is blind buy for me if usb printer could be attached. I use desktop for printing purpose only. Otherwise i use mobiles for email/surfing etc.
Anonymous, 07 Aug 2010Yes, thats what i wanted to know whether i can attach only hard drives to n8 usb port or mouse... moreDear friend,
As I said brother, I'm pretty sure if the supporting drivers are provided we can install mice and key boards etc... This has nothing to do with Nokia... If the hardware manufactures provides 'Symbian 3' device drivers to their mice and key boards, then of course we can connect them and work with them.. Why not...?
But it would have been great if Nokia could include some universal drivers to achieve this task... (without letting us rely upon some hardware vendors help..)
Nuwan, 07 Aug 2010Dear friend, USB On the Go is an amazing feature which turns your mobile in to a mobile com... moreYes, thats what i wanted to know whether i can attach only hard drives to n8 usb port or mouse/ kbds/etc also. So its still not clear other peripherals can also be attached or not.. Nokia shud clarify this
Anonymous, 07 Aug 2010Can anyone tell me what all i can do with uab otg. Can i ONLY connect usb flash drive only?Dear friend,
USB On the Go is an amazing feature which turns your mobile in to a mobile computer...
OK.. Let me describe what it is.. The conventional USB connectors in mobiles are only capable of 'BEING CONNECTED' to a computer as a peripheral... They don't have the capability to act as a USB host... (in other words, they can't identify other peripherals... They only can act itself as a peripheral... That's all..)
But with 'USB On the Go' features, Nokia N8 can act as Both USB peripheral and USB Host...
In other words,
If you connect your mobile phone to your computer, it'll act as a peripheral just like other mobiles do...
If you connect another USB device (such as your pen drive, your portable hard drive or another mobile phone) to your Nokia N8 (using the particular cable for 'USB on the go') then it'll act as a host... (It act as a computer...)
I think everybody could understand what I'm saying.. and Can you imaging the potential of this wonderful feature...?
** You can connect your USB Pen Drive directly to the Nokia N8 and explore the contents.. (You no longer need a computer to exchange files...)
** You can extend the capacity of your mobile by just connecting it to a USB pen drive (let's say with 32 GB capacity) and you can listen to the songs in pen drive directly from your phone as long as two devices are connected... (That means you can extend your Music library up to any capacity...!)
** You can connect your Portable hard drive (let's say 1 TB) with huge lot of Divx movies, to your mobile and can connect your mobile to your HDMI TV and watch movies without the help of your computer... (How does it sound...?)
** If you have another mobile, then you can connect that mobile to your Nokia N8 and exchange files just like you do with your computer...
** Not only above... How about other USB Devices...! Such as USB Mouse, USB Key Boards etc... Though it's not yet declared by Nokia, I'm pretty sure, by the help of 3rd party applications, support for the above devices will also be available with the release of Nokia N8...
Now you see... It's a mobile computer... Nothing else... I don't know why still some people want to compare this unit with Samsung galaxy S or Samsung wave or iphone 4g or what ever it is... This is a Smart Mobile Computer... and above those are just mobile phones... END OF THE STORY...!
TP, 07 Aug 2010QT doesnt guarantee lots of apps, theres hardly any developer interest in Symbian, NOKIA simpl... moreDear TP,
I agree with you most of your arguments brother... For an example, I'm pretty sure, the real android should feel much better than the Symbian 3rd party application SPB shell.. (which is kind of laggy...) I really don't know much about android and it's very nice to know that it has lots of customizations in built... But let me tell you... You were talking about default browser, default Music player etc can be changed in android and we can't do it in Symbian...
But of course we can do it in Symbian too... Only thing is, we don't get it default.. we have to install 3rd party application to achieve it.. or else we have to hack the phone and get the thing done via ROM pather pathes... (Regarding changing fonts also, same rule applies... we can do it via a 3rd party application...)
So, after all, the customization of Android is not an amazing thing to shout about... Because Symbian is the first which had that.. It's good that Android got it default while we still have to rely upon third party applications in symbian... But I don't compare these two OS on the same basis because of following matters...
** Symbian has been developed nearly thorough out a decade... while Android is only just 3 years old.
** Symbian has millions of 3rd party software & developers while Android has thousands of them... (I guess you know the difference between millions vs thousands... Right...?)
** Symbian still is the most popular smart phone OS regardless your arguments and there is no sign it's loosing its demand... (Symbian: 40%, Android: 6%)
So it's very clear why I would go for Symbian over Android...!
Nuwan, 07 Aug 2010Dear Friend, I think you can add these three phones as well... (I mean to your list...) ... moreCan anyone tell me what all i can do with uab otg. Can i ONLY connect usb flash drive only?
Anonymous, 06 Aug 2010I was checking some of the older nokias and I was wondering why nokia was always using the sam... moreDear Friend,
I think you can add these three phones as well... (I mean to your list...)
All above have the same processor, same RAM etc...
As you said, it's bit strange why they do so... I'm using a 5530 right now, and it's serving me perfectly... So I can say, that processor has nothing wrong.. (though a higher clock rate would have been always better...)
I'm glad to see this time, with Nokia N8, they have moved to a new processor with 680 MHz clock rate.. I'm not really happy with the processor but I'll definitely buy the phone by considering other facts like,
* USB on the Go
* Wifi b/g/n
* Symbian 3 (I always loved the flexibility of Symbian OS, we can customize it as anything...!)
* 12 MB extraordinary camera
* Xenon Flash
* 3.5 mm audio jack with dedicated music chip
* Dedicated 3D graphics
* AMOLED touch screen
* 512 MB ROM which supports paging (AMAZING...!)
* FM Transmitter
* DivX support out of the box
I don't think there is any mobile out there which provides all above... and there will not be one for a while I'm sure...! for that reason, I'm definitely go for Nokia N8 regardless of slow processor and less RAM...
This is the last time i would post as regards hardware specs so i'll try to break the logic down so even the dumbest of hateful retards can understand.
When infrared technology was mastered and began appearing on portable devices, it was groundbreaking. A technological milestone. Today, infrared has found its way to virtually every electronic device. From tvs to laptops. Infrared was also used on mobile phones. Them bluetooth came along. Today, bluetooth has almost totally taken over as far as mobile phones are concerned but still, why don't we see bluetooth remote controls? There is one simple answer. Its not necessary. Are you then going to say that remote controls use outdated hardware?
When you go to a shop to buy say an alarm clock do you ask for hardware specifications? 'em, what type of processor does this one use? Whats the screen resolution?' what you're concerned with is 'how well does it perform? Whats the battery life. What options does it offer?'
When specsheets for mobile phones are published they are meant to give you an idea of how the device would perform. HOWEVER, IT IS COMPLETELY ILLOGICAL AND IRRATIONAL TO ESTIMATE PERFORMANCE OF A DEVICE USING A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GADGET AS CONTROL. The nokia 5730 has a 600mhz cpu while the nokia n73 has 368mhz. They both run the same os, have the same screen size and resolution. If and only if i were to assume that the 600mhz processor in the 5730 processes data faster than the n73 processor(which is not always the case. Higher frequency does not mean higher processing speed) would it then be rational for me to assume that the 5730 would perform better. However, since it is always true that higher processor frequencies mean higher power consumption, the 5730 would most definitely have a shorter battery life so long they use the same battery and no other counter measures have been undertaken. This is how to think. This is logic. This is common sense.
On the argument that a faster processor would make symbian faster or even more stable. I own a pc with a 3.2ghz processor and a laptop with a 2ghz processor. I installer pro evolution soccer 10 on both. The game doesn't play any faster on my pc than on my pc than on the laptop. Lionel messi cannot kick the ball any faster on my pc than on my laptop. Where then is the extra 1.2ghz? In the trash can! Burning away. Wasting power. Why do you thing laptop manufacturers don't put 3.2ghz processors in mainstream products? Because they don't need them! That symbian lags is not a problem of underpowering but rather one of the os itself. SYMBIAN AS I KNOW IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY BUILT FOR SPEED BUT FOR FUNCTIONALITY. Its like your pc. How many seconds does it take the average windows pc to start up microsoft word? 10? 20? How about the gallery? Yahoo messenger? In symbian, os components like gallery, phonebook and messages are simply applications. When needed, they have to be started up hence the 1-2 second delay and the less hardware requirements.
My nokia n95 8gb has 128mb ram. At bootup, i have about 85mb free. After surfing for about an hour with 6 windows open, one of which is on the tariff unfriendly full featured youtube, and 4 other less ram hungry apps in the background, i have 66mb of ram left. I go on the open 27 more apps including nokia maps, ngage and lifeblog before the phone hangs and restarts itself. I'm still unsuccessful till date in my quest to encounter a memory full error. Thats 128mb of ram without ram cacheing, application suspend or hibernate. What more 256 with ram cacheing?
That nokia won't be using symbian on anymore nseries devices doesn't mean symbian is incapable or bad. The reason is simple. The times have changed! Gone are the days when only business men and rational individuals with real needs buy expensive phones. Nowadays, even the dumbest of people spend huge amounts of money to buy worthless pieces of crap. The iphone, ipad and other ishit are living testimony. Nseries devices are meant to be the devices from which nokia earns its highest returns. Built for the stupidly rich a majority of whom are unconcerned about functionality hence the need for meego. I, for one can't imagine myself buying a meego device. Ask why? Because it majors on looks rather than functionality. Symbian would be bearing the flag for nokia on their eseries devices. The series for right minded rational thinkers.
If i were to switch from symbian today (which is completely impossible) guess what platform it would be to? Not android. Not meego. Not bada and definitely not ios. Windows mobile. Why? Because its the only other platform that has its priorities straight(blackberry os doesn't qualify. Its too narrow). Functionality over form.
I found this interesting statement on
"Nokia has officially made a statement that their new product, the Nokia N8, will be officially launched on the market on August 24 this year. According to Nokia N8 few details and improvements, which causes the release of this phone instead of the previous list."
Can anyone clarify this?
Naveed, 06 Aug 2010Those who are complaining about the low processor in *N8*. they should think that Nokia N8 has... moreIt's not just about pure MHz/GHz numbers. The newer processors are more energy efficient, and that means a lot for prolonging battery life.
Anyway, besides the untested (i.e tested in daily usage by actual buyers) Symbian^3, I'm more worried about the amount of RAM on the phone. The N8 has only 256Mb RAM. With features such as HDMI output, 12MP camera, support for multitasking etc, I expect no less than 512Mb to be satisfactory. Nokia should be more generous with RAM in future flagship phones.
You've been asked this a bunch over the last few days, but I don't think we can ignore the Android question. What's your opinion on using the OS?
"Android is run by Google... we're not prepared to hand over our destiny to a third-party on that one."
The short answer is no, we're not going to do it. But the why to that one is interesting. We fundamentally believe in our capability to add value on top of just producing great hardware. And so, you have to build something different. And so, in a way, then it's just the question of, do we believe that we can be better or more efficient in differentiating by picking up Android versus something like MeeGo. So, it becomes almost a technical question.
Now, of course, the other thing that we factor in is that Android is run by Google, and that just means that potentially it's much more in their hands. We're not prepared to hand over our destiny to a third-party on that one. So, it is, of course, hard to justify whether that's relevant or not, but having 40 percent market share of the smartphones, we think that we need to have a bit of a say in the platform.
This will be our last question and it's a good follow up to the Android answer. Looking at what Apple and Google have taken of the US smartphone market, what do you see Nokia's future – let's say a year from now – looking like? Given all we've discussed – the N8, MeeGo, etc – what's going to make Nokia grab its share?
I would say that a year from now, I'm sure that we will have both MeeGo and Symbian devices in this market. How many, with what carriers, is, of course, up to us to make happen. But, the foundation that we have built gives us the tools and the settings in place so that we can be successful in this market. It's a function of us making great products, it's a function of us convincing the US carriers that we do have great products, and they fit into their overall portfolio and that the economics behind that are the right ones. But I feel confident that we have built the platform for that to happen.
Shifting back to the handset part of the business, do you plan to bring the N8 out here in the US and what's the strategy in the US looking like right now?
Yes, we will launch the N8 in the US, but we haven't announced any carriers yet. As for the second part of the question, there's two parts to the answer. First of all, I do think that the US smartphone market in the last two years has come from a very small one to the world's largest. You could argue that, one way or the other, any vendor with the long term ambition of being a leader in the smartphone segment also needs to be successful in the US. You could argue therefore, is there so much difference long term between the US version and the rest of the world version? Or is it even going to flip? Is the US version the global version as well? That being said, the US market shares some characteristics with other markets in terms of channel structure with operators. Korea and Japan are two others where the market is managed and driven through the carrier selections. This means that not only do we need to make products that we feel are right for the US consumer, but we need to make sure that we make products that feed the overall product portfolios of the US carriers.
"More and more, because of the dynamics of the global market, I see product managers saying, 'hey, we gotta reverse this thing. We gotta make sure we're competitive in the US and that will be a recipe for success elsewhere.'"
You also have to take a step back to look at what we've been doing with the US strategy. Specifically, we've settled with Quallcomm, partnered with Intel on MeeGo, Microsoft on Office, and Yahoo on Messaging -- we have four very big and important American tech companies who share a business interest with us. All of that doesn't have a direct day-to-day impact on operations necessarily, but that does contribute to building a position.
More and more, because of the dynamics of the global market, I see product managers saying "hey, we gotta reverse this thing. We gotta make sure we're competitive in the US and that will be a recipe for success elsewhere." Finally, nothing big ever started big. One step at a time. Some small, but important, wins already there – Neuron with T-Mobile is an example. And the Ovi Store billing integrated with AT&T. These aren't huge things, but they are proof points that we have the offering that the consumer would like, and it gives us confidence to plow ahead.
While we are talking about US carriers, what are your plans for WiMAX and LTE here?
Well, you have Verizon, who is very aggressively going to LTE. That is an incredible opportunity for us, both when it comes to the network infrastructure, but also how Verizon will then transition to a period of dual mode CDMA / LTE and eventually be pushing very hard for LTE products. That then brings Verizon into the addressable mainstream technology when it comes to capability.
Would you play in that dual-mode space until LTE is ready?
I think that the dual-mode handset market is going to be very difficult to serve for someone who is not in the CDMA business. I think personally it's going to be a shorter transition than people think. It's a new technology, and it's going to be hard to make it a really smooth product offering. Of course, there's a transitional phase here and depending on who you talk to you, you hear different time predictions. It also depends on the dynamics in the market.
Also on the WiMAX front, you had the N810 Internet Tablet which was WiMAX compatible. Do you see potential there now, both in WiMAX and tablets? We know that's a loaded question...
First of all, on WiMAX, we have no plans. No changes there. Our conclusion has been that we need to focus on a few things and that isn't one of them.
And well, now to tablets. First of all, I think it's going to be a very crowded market. Based on what I hear, everybody is going to put them out. There's going to be Android tablets, MeeGo tablets, Windows tablets... you name it. It's going to be very crowded. The question for any vendor is going to become, "What is the uniqueness that you can provide in that space?"
"It's a square thing, so it's hard to differentiate on design, so brand is, of course, number one...At this point in time, we have made no decisions on tablets."
It's a square thing so it's hard to differentiate on design, so brand is, of course, number one. You have to think really hard on whether you have the capability to make a difference in that market. I personally also think you have to look at the use case, and when you look at the users of tablets it seems to be primarily a home media device which would suggest that the TV players are going to get into it as well, which will very quickly make it a TV-like market. As you know, we used to be in TVs and we have no plans to return. At this point in time, we have made no decisions on tablets. It is a market like any other adjunct market -- we monitor to see if we think entry into that specific area will create enough incremental value for us.
Beyond tablets, we've seen the evolution of smartphones becoming much more powerful and almost tablet like, sort of like the N900 was positioned when you first launched it. Some are calling them superphones, but do you have products that you're coming out with later in the year, maybe this MeeGo product, competing in that space?
I've actually been introduced to this 'super phone' term just this week. I think that as the smartphone market becomes more mainstream, we're going to see a lot of companies trying out' things when it comes to product concepts. The larger phones are interesting because physical things come into play, like how big our hand is. At some point in time, the thing is going to be too wide to be comfortably held in our hand. You know, our pockets are not getting any bigger! With a larger screen, your battery consumption goes exponentially up, and we have been taught as consumers that, "I'm not going to accept thicker phones anymore." This super phone category, I absolutely think it will exist, and it will be kind of a gray area between smartphones and tablets.
We're definitely going to play in that space, but, I think we come from the kind of usage paradigm of on-the-go. I think that once the screen gets above a certain size, it's not all that pocketable anymore, and if we don't have the on-the-go aspect, we lose part of our advantage. So that's why, I think, when you look at our product concepts we can, of course, decide that we want to take the 3G Booklet and expand that one, but from a mobility standpoint I think the size is an area where we will stay limited and make very careful decisions about.
We wanted to ask about the Booklet 3G since you guys really went into a different space in mobility last year. Do you expect to update it and stay in PCs?
That Booklet was, for us, an entry into a new product category that we wanted to kind of get our feet wet in, so to speak. We wanted to understand the dynamics of that. How much is that product category different from ours, etc. Not only in terms of how you make them, but how you sell them, where you sell them and all of that. It's clear the PC industry and the phone industry are really different beasts. We learned a lot about how to sell the Booklet versus the selling and marketing of handsets.
Sure, the pricing in the US was surely very high, especially given the data plan. So, is there plans to update that and the product?
Yeah, absolutely. In hindsight I think that we, from a pricing standpoint, probably went too high with it. But yes, that's a product category that we are now in. You know, once we have more to say about that, we'll tell you.
Back to MeeGo, we've seen some leaked pictures of the UI for smartphones and the different implementations from the Intel side. How important is it to keep a consistent Nokia UI or software look and feel between MeeGo and Symbian?
We're going to put our best foot forward when it comes to the user interaction with MeeGo products, and, of course, it's an evolution. Version two is always going to be better than version one, no question about that one. Then, on the similarities between Symbian and MeeGo, of course, from an iconography and the way it looks standpoint, we can do a lot to make sure that it's visible that it is the same family. I think we have to be very careful in not pulling the legacy with us to MeeGo on certain things. We will make some conscious decisions of things that will not be the same logic. For example, Symbian originally was built as a menu-driven operating system, which is not that practical when you are in a touch environment because the tree hierarchies back and forth. For MeeGo, we have taken a totally different kind of paradigm. So, you will not see this kind of menu-driven [UI]. We are making conscious decisions where we just say, "Okay, that's legacy, that's not going to come with us."