SidewindeR, 22 Jul 2010Symbian is no for the spoon-fed masses. Symbian is actually more complicated and powerful than... morei agree with you about choosing functionality and features over eye candy, but these days the user experience is just as (and maybe even more) important for most customers. and unfortunately nokia's recent touchscreen releases have been full of bugs and problems (namely the failure that was the n97), which i suppose has driven users away. i don't know too much about the technical side of operating systems and what not, but i would imagine that as symbian wasn't initially designed and developed for touchscreen phones, it simply cannot compete with other os that were designed for touchscreen. nokia have probably done the smart thing to keep symbian for the low and mid range devices, and meego for the high end phones meant to compete with the likes of android and ios.
Symbian ^1, (Symbian ^2), Symbian ^3, Symbian ^4. Which one would you develop for?
Symbian Series 90 - Nokia 7710 - Platform DEAD
Symbian ^1 S60 5th - A few devices - Developers Needed - Poor Quality Devices - Platform DEAD
Symbian ^2 - No devices by Nokia - Developers Needed - We'll wait and see
Symbian ^3 - Nokia N8 - Developers Needed - With Symbian ^4 around the corner - We'll wait and see.
Nokia 5800 cannot even run Suymbian ^1 so don't even expect to get anything close to Symbian ^3. I think even if the homescreen was ported it would actually cause the phone to slow down alot.
Nokia 5800, Nokia N97, Nokia 5230, Nokia 5233, Nokia 5235, Nokia 5530, Nokia X6 (all versions), and Nokia C6 all have the same downfall (They were made by Nokia). Well besides the obvious, they all have the same crappy - ARM 11 434 MHz processor.
After the Nokia 5800 was launched alot of people complained about the Slow OS which was said to be caused by the inability of the processor to run such a simple interface (No multiple homescreens, No widgets etc). So someone please tell me why on earth and with whose reasoning was this same ARM 11 434 MHz processor allowed into more phones.
When will Nokia wake up and realise that The Samsung i8910 Omnia Hd has stuff that are comparable to the Nokia N8.
For example -
Nokia N8 - AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Samsung Omnia - AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Nokia N8 - 360 x 640 pixels, 3.5 inches
Samsung Omnia - 360 x 640 pixels, (3.7 inches)
Nokia N8 - Scratch resistant Gorilla glass display
Samsung Omnia - Scratch Resistant surface
Nokia N8 - 16 GB storage, 256MB RAM, 512 MB ROM, microSD, up to 32GB
Samsung Omnia - 8 GB/16 GB storage, 256 MB RAM, microSD, up to 32GB
Nokia N8 - 1/1.83'' sensor size, ND filter, geo-tagging, face and smile detection
Samsung Omnia - Geo-tagging, face, smile and blink detection, image stabilization, wide dynamic range, ISO 1600
Nokia N8 - Video Recording 720p@25fps
Samsung Omnia - HD 720p@24fps, D1 (720x480 pixels)@30fps, QVGA time-lapse and slow-mo video recording
Nokia N8 - Digital compass
- MP3/WMA/WAV/eAAC+ player
- DivX/XviD/MP4/H.264/H.263/WMV player
- Document viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
Samsung Omnia - Digital compass
- MP3/WMA/WAV/RA/AAC/M4A music player
- Document viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, PDF)
Nokia N8 - Standard battery, Li-Ion 1200 mAh (BL-4D)
Samsung Omnia - Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Nokia N8 - ARM 11 680 MHz processor, 3D Graphics HW accelerator.
Samsung Omnia - ARM Cortex A8 600 MHz, PowerVR SGX graphics
The Samsung i8910 Omnia HD also has Virtual 5.1 channel Dolby surround
So I think rather than buying a (sure to be overpriced) Nokia N8 I'll hold on for a Symbian ^3 upgrade (or port ) for the Samsung i8910 Omnia HD. It sure is capable of running it.
You can go here for a full comparison http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3252&idPhone2=2691
Its about time that someone produced a mobile phone with a exelent camera,and Nokia certanly
have with the N8,and im going to have mine in the rather nice orange colour
we are looking forward to see a great phone. but i want to see 1GHz processor, and very smooth touch screen. i will but the phone if i get the proper blending of speed and smoothness of the phone.
RONALD, 22 Jul 2010Such a﻿ great phone... but unfortunately by the time its released (looks like Octob... moreWhich phones are you exactly talking about? I can't think of any and I know a thing or 2 about cells :-)
Big daddy, 22 Jul 2010The N8 is good product I should know cause Im the on testing it!Are you some sort of QA in Nokia?
If yes, can you guys help to speed up the progress and make sure everything is ok?
Can help to ensure that this phone will be release at Q3 as promised?
Symbian is no for the spoon-fed masses. Symbian is actually more complicated and powerful than anyone would normally think of. Just look at application platforms supported in symbian. Java, SIS, Qt, Python, Flash, Silverlight, the list just goes on. And each of them is powerful in its own way...
Symbian can work much faster and more efficiently than we think of. I wouldn't believe it either until I modded my phone and was astonished to see the difference in performance.
No other OS has more customisation possibilities than symbian. It even extends to the OS level...If the UI looks ugly, there are a lot of alternatives with even infinite homescreens. But I still prefer the Nokia default UI as it is much more user friendly and I prefer functionality over appearance.
Such a﻿ great phone... but unfortunately by the time its released (looks like October as of now), there﻿ will most likely be plenty of even better phones available. Wish they'd release it sooner like next month
Good idea for developers to change N8 UI: get 5 home screen, screen #1 cannot fast change to screen #5. Just change by 12345.. 54321. Screen #3 is original with clock, calendar, date...
Anonymous, 22 Jul 2010I have no comment on the UI. It's about personal preferences. I personally think N8's UI is qu... moreyeah, im just stuck between
, N8 and N9... if all goes well and N9 have the same cam as the N8,then im happy, hopefully it wont cost a fortune either XD
but knowing Nokia,i rrly doubt...however times have changed.. we'll c:P
[deleted post]Your link looks weird.
Like some fake link to cheat people.
I do not dare to try.
But "low battery"?
Are you kidding?
Look at the spec before your post. Thanks.
Ali Abdulla, 22 Jul 2010"how can the OS be outdated if it is just about to come out?"
well if it is... moreI have no comment on the UI. It's about personal preferences. I personally think N8's UI is quite good.
Better than IOS at least.
But when it comes to functionality, it is better than IOS or Android.
Maybe lesser home screen out of the box.
But it is enough for me.
Most likely Nokia will increase the number of home screen in their next updates or maybe some third party apps can help to do that.
But for me, it is enough even if it is just one home screen.
Hardware features wise, N8 is much more better than most of it same rank phone in the market.
kodn, 22 Jul 2010how can the OS be outdated if it is just about to come out?"how can the OS be outdated if it is just about to come out?"
well if it isnt better than current OSes on the market.. UI wise and functionality, then yeah its outdated before its out..
i dont mind the Symbian at all, but when i stop and think about Meego, hmmmmmmm :P
qwerty, 22 Jul 2010Why would you need 5 home screen with 30 widgets? What could you possibly have.
Android ... morehello. Why Nokia lost ground to competitors is precisely this limitation which makes Symbian and 3. Why only three screens. why not 5 or 6, or 7/android.
Yes it's true if you have multiple phone screens decreases performance. Galaxy's Samsung when it recognizes that the CPU has the same performance over seven screens and a mobile phone is damn fast.
Nokia loses ground for this software. He appeared Maemo. Hooray. He disappeared Maemo.
If not move along to have a Nokia phone for nothing, however only those that sell them, software is the key.
I have a Nokia E50. good phone but the software is already aged, was good three years now. move forward.
SidewindeR, 22 Jul 2010I was actually wondering if the samsung Wave is indeed the N8 killer. With a smaller price tag... morei agree completely.
the other Ooperating systems may seem better, but functions speaks louder than beauty when it comes to phones..
[deleted post]how can the OS be outdated if it is just about to come out?
it simply rocks............
usb otg, hdmi, bt v3, wifi wth n support, this nokia's gona rock
SidewindeR, 22 Jul 2010With symbian open source, it is possible without a doubt. I currently own a 5233 with symbian^... moreWow! 5230 with 3 home screen! I dont think so after you talk! I watch HD2 run a new UI, very good animation, fast n smooth. And my hope a N8 5 home screen seem to be become really. I will set many icon in it. Wow! My only bad point in N8 will be solved.