Engineer Man, 04 Jun 2010@Tom-Helge
Nope, they're entirely different processors made by different companies, and hav... moreThat's very true.
This was one of the best posts i have seen here in a loooooong long time.
12 Mpix pictures
Carl Zeiss optics
1/1.83'' sensor size!!!
720P video recording
10.2 Mbps 3G speed
16 GB internal Memory
16M colors on screen
Aluminum unibody construction
Ovi Maps 3.0 (downloadable!)
Brilliant phone with so many amazing features!
Nope, they're entirely different processors made by different companies, and have nothing to do with one-another (aside from being direct competitors).
The Snapdragon is essentially a completely custom processor designed by Qualcomm, while Hummingbird is a modified Samsung ARM Cortex A8.
While Snapdragon has roots in the Cortex A8 and runs the same ARMv7 instruction set, it is essentially a complete rebuild of the processor.
Hummingbird, on the other hand, IS a Samsung Cortex A8 that has been modified significantly by Intrinsity, the company you may have heard in recent news was just purchased by Apple.
The reason we've not seen a 1 GHz Cortex A8 is because until this point, it's not been possible to release it at a stable 1 GHz. However, Hummingbird is the first production 45 nm ARM processor that we've seen announced in a smartphone. This reduced scale allows for about 20% more clock speed and power efficiency, hence the ability to clock at 1 GHz. Snapdragons on the market are currently still on the 65 nm feature size.
Basically, Hummingbird is the best SoC (System on a Chip) on the market right now for 2 reasons: it's the first 45 nm smartphone SoC we've seen, and its modifications by Intrinsity allow it get more performance per clock cycle than a typical Cortex A8.
It's tough to say if it beats a 1 GHz Snapdragon in performance currently (it appears they're pretty neck-and-neck), but it definitely is significantly more power efficient. Add Samsung's claims of 4x the graphics performance that the current Snapdragons offer, and the result is a pretty impressive.
Hummingbird will lose out in performance to the 45 nm 1.3 GHz Snapdragon released later this year, and both will be overshadowed by the Cortex A9 SoCs released early next year.
But for the time being, Hummingbird is the best you can get in a smartphone. My article covers all this and more, in detail.
Who cares if a processor on another phone is a billion times more powerful than the one in the N8. If it's not in the N8, I don't care about it.
X10 troll, the N8 beats your joke phone in so many areas!
Better Media with both video and sound
Better Build Quality
More efficient OS
More internal memory
Only 480p video recording on your phone, and yet you go on and on about the processor. Get a life!
Did you know that an older Symbian Series 30 or 40 series phone with 300Mhz CPU could run 60 Apps & mult- task quite effectivley!!!
Nokia 5800 was upped from 3**Mhz to 434MHz after V.20 firmware. for the increase overheads & add ons.
Samsung had poor build quality not long ago & poor customer & software support but they are getting better with these new models. Build quality & soft support is getting better.
Nokia have always had good to excellent build quality & par customer & good Soft support. Nokia are starting to build some quality phones again.
The samsung will give better credit to a better experience watching Movies on the move in sunlight.
The N8 will have a more reflective display & won't be as pleasurable watching movies in sunligh on the move as the samsung.
The N8 will take better pictures & better 720P thanks to the CCD imaging sensor, lens & aperture & brilliant filter.
The samsung may in the end have less internal storage. I know Vodaphone are geting 16GB model but the 8GB model may be more widely avaiable maybe?
Nokia has 16GB. However the samsung may have the better GPU over N8.
The rest is down to debate over Android vs symbian on memory management, kernel management, cpu, GPU overheads I guesse.
I don't agree with the persons that say the N8 is not a smartphone. The Nokia 5800 certainly is, the N8 more so.
Considering the N8 has 256MB more NAND flash ROM is great. For it will have a another partition to porbably allow you to store OS apps within the 16GB Storage drive. The Nokia 5800 could only use the 256MB NAND ROM for this aswell as the OS.
Tom-Helge, 04 Jun 2010Doesn't matter if you can clock the CPU in the N8 to 1 GHz. At 680 Mhz on ARM11 CPU, then the ... moreARM 11 is old processor with old assembly instructions and don't have registers like Snapdragon and ARM 11 overclocked on 1GHZ is unstable and such MYCH power!
It's NOT possible to overclock and stable work and compare with 1GHZ Snapdragon!
Guys, no need to give attention to trollers.
Android is Future, 04 Jun 2010Report from October 2009
Gartner released a slightly revised outlook for the 2012 mobile op... moreMonkeys have been scientifically proven to be as accurate at predicting as Gartner, or Stock Brokers. You must read a copy of a book called "fooled by randomness". No dissing you, but you should, its great.
Adnroid will fail because the big players will resist it. Its a fad, that needs to be used, in order to keep up. All major players are sticking to their own, or do you think that Nokia and Samsung, together selling 62% of all phones every year, are just stubborn to bet on S^3 and Bada? Smaller manufacturers had nothing to lose, and sold out, like HTC. Its nice for now, but terrible in the long run.
Mark, 04 Jun 2010CPU is UNDERclocked and can be adjusted with firmware to 1Ghz. Like happened to 5800, increase... moreDoesn't matter if you can clock the CPU in the N8 to 1 GHz. At 680 Mhz on ARM11 CPU, then the 1 GHz Snapdragon CPU is 300% faster and more powerfull.
So if you clock the CPU in the N8 to 1 GHz, then the 1 GHz Snapdragon CPU will still be 200% faster and more powerfull.
Mark, 04 Jun 2010If you want to look cool, and use non alphabetical characters to disguise swearing, at least d... moreMy whole intention of putting an asterik is to make sure that GSMARENA accepts it.
and it worked. So your opinion doesn't matter.
N8 is Falling, 04 Jun 2010I don't give a damn if you care or not.
Go fuc*k yourself.If you want to look cool, and use non alphabetical characters to disguise swearing, at least do it right, and leave out a character.
So not fuc*k or fu*ck, but fu*k.
Besides that, you have said nothing of interest. Have a good weekend.
N8 rank is falling, 04 Jun 2010Nokia N8 is falling in rank http://alatest.co.uk/reviews/mobile-phone-reviews/nokia-n8/po3-10... morea few days ago I said that N8 does not deserve a better score of 8.5 and still stand by that!
N8, 04 Jun 2010Tom
I will enjoy videos more on the 4" screen of the x10 but I'll still enjoy it on the ... moreI'll just have to correct you on something here.
You said that X10 would never get flash.
Where have you heard that?. Doesn't Android 2.2 support flash?.
Eeeeeeep, yes it does.
N8 rank is falling, 04 Jun 2010Nokia N8 is falling in rank http://alatest.co.uk/reviews/mobile-phone-reviews/nokia-n8/po3-10... moreYour attempt in degrading the Nokia N8 failed. Your post is as legitimate as the voting results listed to the left of the screen. Facts are respected more than opinions.
Anis, 04 Jun 2010Who care's! lolI don't give a damn if you care or not.
Go fuc*k yourself.
Nokia N8 is falling in rank
Samsung Wave is rising
Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 is number 1.
@nute. The problem we all face. You can't win. Because the more RAM you get, the more memory will be used up by the OS's glamour & bloatware eating it up... shame. 680Mhz is plenty to run symbian. It's only needed to start the phone & open apps. N8 having GPU will drive the front end, taking the loa
d off of the processor. it didn't before. You will have increased bandwith for the apps & multi-tasking. It will seem much smoother & faster because of this fact.