Mark, 30 May 2010YOU cant be serious mate. Where your logic fails is in the assumption this is ceteris paribus.... moreLike i have said many times earlier, making things go really smooth and making things goes really fast is 2 totally different things here.
And it's here where 1 GHz Snapdragon owns the CPU in the Nokia N8. And when it's about running very heavy tasks like 720p movies with very high bitrate / quality.
And when you can run games with 480x854 in resolution. Then it helps with a good CPU. Ofc a good GPU also helps alot.
Even my XPERIA X10 with Android 1.6 is twice as fast as the movies from Nokia N8 shows now.
Wait until XPERIA X10 gets Android 2.2, then lets talk about what's fast.
Tom-Helge, 30 May 2010First of all, calling this phone for the new era is just LOL.
DOn't take me wrong though, i... moreYOU cant be serious mate. Where your logic fails is in the assumption this is ceteris paribus. It is not. If we all have to use the same frame, wheels, etc, then the bigger engine will likely be faster in a car. The point is, running this spec, the N8 can be considerably faster than a snapdragon android device since S^3 (even if our opinions on its merits vs android differ) is a lot lighter and, kaching, not a VM. Why on earth would someone need those higher specs then, if this is already quicker? It is a resource constrained environment we are talking about here, where less energy use is better. Tell me, how long the battery lasts in a snapdragon device?
On top of that, the part that really matters, and you as an Android user cannot understand, is the fact that the ui is hardware accelerated, the OS dumps tasks to the GPU and this here GPU is tearing all of those Snapdragon configurations a new arsehole. Have you even seen the benchmarks?
Niraj, 30 May 2010You forgot to mention that touch wiz sucks and wave looks ugly.. Also it have only total one t... morethe build quality of the samsung wave :
aluminum body made from one continuous cast so there are no parting lines on the sides.
scratch resistant surface (the whole body not only screen).
Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors 480 x 800 pixels, 3.3 inches (as you might know the best phone screen ever).
Weight 118 g.
so i think the answer is what your friend said
( very poor phone )!!!!!!
phones fan, 30 May 2010NOKIA says to you ( nice job )..... and give you 5000 of nothing and will cheat you for 370 euros to buy this slowly garbage :PPP
madarauchiha, 30 May 2010I love Nokia N8, that's all I know. I don't care what you guys think of it but one thing is qu... moreFirst of all, calling this phone for the new era is just LOL.
DOn't take me wrong though, i know this phone is good enough for today or when it's released, but calling a phone with descent hardware with just a camera that is very nice for the new era is the biggest joke i have ever heard.
I think your new era is a bit to late when this phone have existed for a long time already: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_w880_amoled_12m-2948.php
Yes this phone will hopefully come out in europe later with a new name.
Secondly, only because Nokia sells more than other brands doesn't mean they are the best.
It's like saying Toyota is better than Ferrari only because Toyota sells much more than Ferrari. This is also something i'm laughing hard to.
Third. Yeah i watched the videos about the Nokia N8. But as an Android user i'm not impressed at all, not yet at least.
Yeah, the Nokia N8 will pwn the hell out of anything that have with iPhone to do, that's pretty damn sure.
But calling a mobile phone with descent hardware that is a bit old except for the camera for future of technology. Uhm, you can't be serious pal.
hani, 30 May 2010no hdmi output no usb otg 4 years old outdated camera small screen size no hd video output no ... moreit is very strange and unconvincing answer, since when the lack of hdmi ,usb otg,fm transmitter make the phone very poor?!!?
you are counting the extra features of the n8 !
not every one needs these features,if i am in home i would better connect my blue-ray player or my laptop to my hd tv to watch a movie or any hd video,and if i put a movie in my phone that means i want to watch when i am outside.
and this usb otg ,as i understood it should allow me to connect flash usb to my phone ,is that right ?!?
the camera of samsung wave is outdated!!,may be because it is the first to capture hd video @30fps ?!
and then you wrote no hd video output which i think it equals no hdmi.
the price is about $510.
[deleted post]you are vote spammer!
I have already said, this BIG score for this crap is unreal!
It is clear that the result of only a few people who still spam ... 10 10 10
I love Nokia N8, that's all I know. I don't care what you guys think of it but one thing is quite sure, this phone is the new-era phone. Nokia phones are the most selled phones ever, everybody knows that. And I can't say if it'll be good or not, but come on guys! Haven't you watched the videos about it? It's a marvelous phone and it has nothing to do with the iPhone. It can have similiar apps and stuff but it's Nokia, we're not talking about Palm or HTC, it is Nokia guys! This is nothing but a magnificent phone and it's the future of technology.
At 854*480 motorola milestone's display is still the best. If you dont believe me,go and have a look at it first.Nothing even comes close to it.
Tom-Helge, 29 May 2010Bingo, your the first one to finally see what i'm also talking about.
That's what i was tal... moreif n8 sell under 400 i think this phone will booming.like i said tom i already have tasted SE M600i and they never support the FW,p910 too.im also a pride owner of K750 and W810,K750 was stolen and now i use my W810 as a modem XD
528 for X10 is cheap enough but i think i will still go with n8,USB OTG and FM transmitter are the 2 things i will love to use,16g onboard 16g on memorycard and 16g more room with flashdisk that will be something i cant refuse.
camera picture quality is not my top priority cause i have dvd cam and sony digital camera,i think i can stick the sony digicam memory card to card reader and stick it to n8 usb OTG right? XD
N8 is an all around device i think like 5800xm so versatile and handy.u still have alot of thing u can do with it.i almost believe that i was pick on a wrong phone but thats until id tried CFW.
now i have almost 8000 pic + 50 folder full of manga and comicbooks + dozen ebooks + 50plus mpeg4 movies rip from dvd that old 5800xm still can handle it smoothly,dont forget alot of apps that can help me to do alot of thing.
writing docs online,bluetooth pc remote,remote desktop,streaming media files from my pc,sharing conection via 5800 wifi,playing gba emulator,drawing,radio? X10 dont have a radio right? well i will missing the built in compass but 5800xm can do almost the X10 jobs.later fw update for x10 will never bring drawing ability and radio right?
so why i will find any interest with X10??
n8 have that new feature USB OTG and FM trans plus compass thats the 3 things i dont have in my 5800xm.cheaper than X10,able run with 15apps is a big bonus too.
if im not wrong i've read it somewhere that android only able to open max 5 apps and the 1st app will close for memory reserve.so n8 with 15apps is a huge thing even if n8 will only have 1yr support for new fw i think most of the people will find it as a nice phone. ^^v
if you can afford an N8, go ahead and buy it, it's that simple. No more my processor is faster than yours, my browser eats less data bull crap. it all just a matter of personal taste. same thing with a samsung or an iphone, if you can afford it, then buy it, stop postin' nonsense on this site.
Tom-Helge, 30 May 2010Have you ever tried to use the web browser on the phone with 360x640 resolution and then goes ... moreOkay you win in browser happy.. By the way I more prefer Opera mini because it is fast and uses less data..
hani, 30 May 2010no hdmi output no usb otg 4 years old outdated camera small screen size no hd video output no ... moreYou forgot to mention that touch wiz sucks and wave looks ugly.. Also it have only total one thousand message storage (with inbox, sentbox and draft). Maximum outgoing Mms size only 295 kb ( I used to send Multimedia messages to friends, because its looks like presentation, you can add music in background, a photo and your message in one). By the way what is the build quality of Samsung Wave..
[deleted post]Have you ever tried to use the web browser on the phone with 360x640 resolution and then goes to the same web page with another device that have 480x854 in resolution with the same screen size?.
If you don't see any difference there, your totally blind.
phones fan, 30 May 2010can you count the features that samsung wave lacks that made you said it is very poor device ;)no hdmi output no usb otg 4 years old outdated camera small screen size no hd video output no free navigation no fm transmitter new os lacks of apps very expensive price 700$ for such a midrange device .
phones fan, 30 May 2010in gaming the more the resolution the better the graphics with less use of antialiasing techni... moreGood research but it is for LCD not Amoled.. And also a normally eye can only see upto 220 ppi. But if you will concentrate on a object on the display for more than 60 seconds then the human eye can see upto 300 ppi..
hani, 30 May 2010samsung wave have very great screen and very fast cpu its even faster than snapdragon but it l... morecan you count the features that samsung wave lacks that made you said it is very poor device ;)
[deleted post]in gaming the more the resolution the better the graphics with less use of antialiasing technique,also i found this on the link you gave:
It has been observed that the unaided human eye can generally not differentiate detail beyond 300 PPI; however, this figure depends both on the distance between viewer and image, and viewer's visual acuity. Modern displays having upwards of 300 PPI pixel densities, combined with their non-reflective, bright, evenly lit and interactive display areas, may have vastly more appeal to users than the best prints available on paper.
so this means that the eye can differentiate between 200 ppi and 300ppi
phones fan, 30 May 2010this is the same thing that happened with samsung wave after it became the 1st in the ranking.... moresamsung wave have very great screen and very fast cpu its even faster than snapdragon but it lacks of good features its very poor device with high perfomance .