And i forgot to say that running an OS very smooth is a totally different thing than running things really fast.
The GPU makes sure things goes smooth while the CPU makes sure things goes fast.
Yes, the GPU will help with the graphical stuffs in the OS to the N8, but without a CPU, you wouldn't be able to run a game or any softwares. You wouldn't even be able to start up the OS, simple as that.
No matter how powerfull the GPU is, you still need a good CPU to be able to start programs extremely fast and to be able to load games fast and so on.
And yes, Firefox 4 and that will be GPU accelerated. But it still needs the CPU to be able to start up fast and to be able to run things fast.
The GPU will only help to render pictures and other stuffs in the browsers.
Because if you have the crappiest CPU in a phone with a really nice GPU, it's still gonna take you 5 mins to start the web browser and 10 mins to start a game.
So the CPU still needs to be good no matter what if you want a really fast phone. You can't get away from that.
Tom-Helge, 21 May 2010No matter how you want to spin it. A GPU can't do all the work that the CPU have to do. A web ... morehmmm, I think this S^3 will be running a lot using the GPU of N8, cause I've read an article that said so, and the result of N8 running using the GPU a lot is that it'll lengthen the battery life. And yes, GPU is graphic processing unit, and that's one of the thing that will make this phone run it's UI smoothly.
Try running a Windows 7 with it's aero effect on using an old GPU, I bet it'll stutter. But maybe you'll say that UI is not only run by the GPU, memory and CPU also factor in it, yes, I agree, but like I said, looks like this S^3 has been made so that it'll depend more on the GPU rather than the CPU, and remembering that N8 has a powerful GPU, that I guess it'll run pretty smooth.
Tom-Helge, 21 May 2010No matter how you want to spin it. A GPU can't do all the work that the CPU have to do. A web ... moreAre you really that stupid or you just want to act like one ?..
Symbian^3 UI is heavily Hardware accelerated by the GPU ! So was Maemo 5.
Video playback is done by a DEDICATED chip in the SoC.
All aspect of the game you run are processed by the GPU, not just "some" part of the game. Only the initial loading is done by the application processor.
are you saying Arm11 at 680Mhz can run 720p @30 fps mkv movie ?? lol. learn before you start advising other.
other than web browsing everything else is hardware accelerated by GPU.. in future even browsing will be GPU accelerated.(like IE9,FF4 etc)
well i think i have seen it all now a dog playing snooker a pink elephant flying and a mobile phone who thinks that it is a spaceship for hobbits what next
nokia n8 will be released worldwide only in q4, though some counteries will get it before
I hope Nokia get this out by June cause if they don't then they will mess this one up like they did with the N97, htc evo 4G and the next gen iphone will be out next month, who would want to buy this phone in aug/sep. Just a select few maybe.
RONALD, 21 May 2010http://dailymobile.se/2010/05/20/samsung-i8920-omnia-hd2-leaked-running-symbian3-os/
Why samsung is copying nokia (N8) ? (if that licked photo n specs r true) !
Why Samsung is steeling other's specs ?
Satz, 21 May 2010From Symbian^3 the processor Speed (1Ghz) doesn't matter much since everything from now on wil... moreNo matter how you want to spin it. A GPU can't do all the work that the CPU have to do. A web browser can't be run by the GPU alone, any games can't be run just from the GPU alone and so on.
GPU is standing for: Graphics Processing Unit. It only takes cares of anything that have with graphics to do.
So a game can't run good without a good CPU. Period.
Movies contains with graphics even if the movie is made of animation or just normal recordings. And that's why the GPU on computers today can run the movies right from the GPU.
So saying Symbian ^3 will run mostly from the GPU is not right. The GPU in the N8 will helps to get games with good graphics to run, but it doesn't mean it will run them totally smooth.
[deleted post]if u didn't like it u can give it to me, what do u say...
Niraj, 21 May 2010In you dream..? Lolhehehe, i agree with u, he must got one in his dreams, dude it's not even released YET...
From Symbian^3 the processor Speed (1Ghz) doesn't matter much since everything from now on will "RUN" on GPU ..
What matters most is the "GPU speed".. this thing has broadcom GPU which has 3-4 times the power of Cortex A8 used in milestone or Droid or 2 times the GPU power of 1Ghz SnapDragon.
It just shows how ignorant you are.
Tom-Helge, 21 May 2010Well yeah ofc clocking the ARM Cortex A8 CPU's to 800-900 MHz will absolutely help. But the... moreThe Gpu of N8 (broadcom bcm2727) is alone capable to record 720p videos @30 fps and take 12 mp photos.. This fact tells that how powerful the Gpu is.. So using arm11 cpu @ 680 is wise choice of Nokia. So this phone dont need arm cortex a8 cpu..
Hey, this phone looks pretty good. Any idea when is the release date and an approximate price?
This phone looks quite brilliant! However, I haven't seen any reviews based on the real purpose of the phone - dialing or texting...
KID, 21 May 2010well, I have check my fact before, but if maybe I got it wrong, then I'm sorry, but some of th... moreWell yeah ofc clocking the ARM Cortex A8 CPU's to 800-900 MHz will absolutely help.
But there is a thing you have to realize though, and that is that the test i linked to is compared with Android 2.1. And you know that the Android 2.2 is all from 2 to 5 times faster than Android 2.1 when it's about performance.
So things might look way better for Snapdragon on a device with Android 2.2.
But i still want to see a performance test with a device with ARM Cortex A8 600 MHz CPU against another device with 1 GHz Snapdragon CPU when both of them are running Android 2.2.
And like i also said earlier, you get what you pay the 370 euros for. So it would be impossible to have this phone with a screen that have 480x854 resolution and 1 GHz Snapdragon CPU with the rest the phone have for 370 euros.
So yeah, there is a point for that.
But while i thinks about it. When it's about the CPU again. I know the GPU in the N8 is good though. But the thing is, if the GPU can't fully run all movies from the GPU, like i can do with my Radeon HD 4870 GPU to my computer for example, then the CPU in the N8 is going to have big troubles to run high-definition / high quality movies.
So if N8 can make fully use of the GPU that way, then it's good.
And when it's about games for example, then it will be the same for phones as with computers. If you run a Crysis Warhead with a Radeon HD 5870 GPU with a crappy Intel Pentium 4 processor, your CPU will be a big ass bottleneck.
The CPU simply can't drive the game smooth at all then. You can run the game with good graphic settings and the game will lag badly as hell.
And then we takes it the other way. If you have the best Intel 6 core CPU that was released rescently while you have a poor GeForce 8600 GS GPU, then the GPU can't handle Crysis Warhead on high graphic settings for example.
Here you can run the game totally smooth with medium graphic settings.
So you see what i'm talking about here. Smoothness over eye-candy.
But then, i'm not using a mobile phone as a gaming device either. I use my PC or my Sony PSP for that. So for my usage on my phone, then CPU power over GPU power any days.