I have always been a Symbian fanboy. No matter how it failed and how people bash it.
I am not here to troll Android, iOS, Blackberry OS, iOS or WP7.
Just sharing something...
Android, iOS and even MeeGo all are power packed OSs. They are immensely smooth and has what it takes to satisfy any user.
And yeah 90% now thinks Symbian is no where near. But those 90% have actually used S60v5 or N8 PR 1.2.
S60v5 had really destroyed Symbian to the core. People just got the impression that Symbian = Laggy.
Nokia had limited it's hardware to 434Mhz and 128MB ram in those devices which resulted in epic "FAIL" user experience.
And during the days of 5800 and n97, Nokia was like a GOD mobile manufacturer and majority of the people trusting Nokia bought those devices and got disappointed horribly. This lead to mass destruction of Nokia Reputation and Symbian Platform.
Symbian was super feature packed but the functions were not implemented well. While Android and iOS had very less functions but what they had were implemented very very well.
Nokia came up with N900 which had the best potential at the time as it was super smooth at that time (Maemo was rocking!). It had everything. If importance was paid to it. It could be a game changer. But Nokia never really paid attention to maemo and even now to MeeGo (N9 Maemo6 Harmattan/MeeGo). Nokia being attached to symbian just ditched every other idea and innovation that could hamper symbian development. Symbian was a religion in Nokia for years until Steven Elop arrived.
(So Nokia fans who were angry of Nokia for ditching symbian and adopting WP7, do see this. See how Nokia did a lot to help Symbian development)
It seemed Nokia was helpless. Don't know if programming/coding Symbian was so difficult or they had closed their eyes for a while. They tried to put the best hardware in N97 like FM Transmitter, Excellent body, cam etc but failed to put A good CPU, RAM and GPU"
Nokia seems, they had learned a lot if you compare N8 to N97.
They were too late but they realized their mistake.
See Samsung Omnia 8910HD. See it's Homescreen, Task Manager and stuff. If Samsung could do it with a S60v5. What was Nokia doing?
Symbian was no doubt heavily uplifted by Nokia and really Nokia behaved like a father of Symbian OS making it a super popular OS during the reign of N95. but they were also the ones to kill it by making N97.
Finally they released N8. They put all MeeGo/Maemo plans aside for it. just for the sake of Symbian so that it might be popular and also to boost sales of N8. N8 was really Nokia's first step to intelligence after 2+ years of failure. But they should have given MeeGo/maemo a fair chance. If they could have given. If N9 was released during the time of iPhone 3GS and they would support it with one major update a year. Nokia could rule today. Nokia put all hopes on symbian that didn't work out though they had success with Symbian^3.
Symbian^3 was heavily revamped in terms of speed. N8 when it was released had the BEST GPU at that time compared to any phone of that time. many few people do know that. But had it a 1Ghz A8 with 512 MB RAM, people would get heavily attracted to it. Yeah and ofcourse, they should have introduced it to the markets with Symbian Belle and not with PR 1.1/1.2/Anna coz if you want to make a device cool and new, you need to make it look cool (The UI) and you do need to change the visuals to make it look different.
Who would have liked Windows 8 with super advanced functions but with the UI of Windows Classic (ex Win 98) ??
Symbian Belle is moving to markets with 701,700,603.
Nokia 701. Great specs! 1Ghz CPU and 512MB RAM with GPU as powerfull as 4xThe_GPU_of_N8!
And most importantly Symbian Belle. Some of you might still think why couldn't they put a DUAL CORE 1.5Ghz and 1GB ram etc!
But the fact is, it's not running Android or iOS. Symbian has never been Resource hungry and is still the best OS in terms of resource optimization and Battery life*
My Nokia N8 with Symbian Belle (Beta version!) is no doubt working too smooth if you compare it to a same android device with 680Mhz and 256MB RAM.
Now SGS II runs super smooth! yeah But it has 1.2GHz dual core with almost 1 GB RAM. So if Symbian Belle on my N8 is running a little slower than SGS II, it isn't Symbian's fault. Had Nokia N8 the same specs as SGSII, it would had done the same. Nokia gave N8 a mind blowing 12MP cam but didn't give it enough power to compete with modern devices.
My point is, if Symbian with such low spec hardware still comes almost near to the top devices running on kickas* 1.2Ghz/1.5Ghz chips, how can it be called laggy, faulty and fail os?
And also do note the fact that when we compare OSs, we must always take the latest versions in regard. You can't just take out your 14k 5800(s60v5 - 1st Symbian touch based os) and compare it to 44k iPhone4 (4th generation of iOS).
The comparison between both the OS would be only fair if both the OS were running on same hardware.
LOL if you compare Win7 on a 1Ghz dual core with a windows98 running on 2.56Ghz i3. obviously, Windows98 will work faster.
So Symbian got everything it needs to get to the top on condition that Nokia provides it with ultimate hardware as seen on the latest devices.
If Nokia release at least one 1.2Ghz dual core with 1GB ram and a modern high speed GPU with Symbian Belle. We can truly compare it to iPhones and modern Androids and yeah you can be sure Symbian will beat them in every regards.
With Qt Symbian software development has increased more than ever and see how OVI store is having a massive 9M downloads per day!
Nokia just needs to step in and make those big as* devices. And maybe we see miracles from Nokia in 2012. Who knows.
fred, 07 Nov 2011i am very very happy 4 u. but i know dat u must loss ur ovi map and store. just go to software... moreYeah fred....
I had lost ovi store & map...bt i reinstalled it later..
Though i reinstall only ovi store & not map...coz i don't really need map..
Happy now...!!! :-)
AnonD-29394, 07 Nov 2011Hey guys i am thinking of buying a new mobile and i am impressed with N8 specifications but i ... more
The one issue you should be aware of is the purple screen problem with the AMOLED. It doesn't affect all N8's just some and is common enough to cause concern. The best thing to do is try the phone out in the shop to see if it has a very noticeable purple tint on the screen.
Mahesh, 07 Nov 2011Heeyyyyy fffrrreeeedddd.... Thanks man... I did the same as u said... Finally my n8 get sta... morei am very very happy 4 u. but i know dat u must loss ur ovi map and store. just go to software update u will find it and download it back again. enjoy. i use c7 not n8. buy.
While phone is idling and without any application active, my RAM is free about 73mb only. the rest seems utilized for something.
1. How to see any hidden application which running in background and consume the RAM?
2. How to clear up that RAM to minimize level which give me more room for other applications.
3. What is the optimize RAM when phone is in idling mode?
Thanks in advance.
AnonD-29394, 07 Nov 2011Hey guys i am thinking of buying a new mobile and i am impressed with N8 specifications but i ... moreI have been using this phone for almost year now and I think its the best. Buy it and update it to symbian Anna, Holla!
yes is a good smartphone, but he didnt read flash player video......and isnt compatible with google live applications, like google earth live....thx
Hey guys i am thinking of buying a new mobile and i am impressed with N8 specifications but i want to know if it has any disadvantages or common problems with anyone of you since it is at very high price i don't want to pay all of this money and have problems later. so please help me with your opinions.
UJJ, 06 Nov 2011Question for Ray?
All things considered, what would be your top 5 smart phones out there, a... more
I don't really have a top five of my own but there are three phones I'd like to get my hands on. The first being the new Motorola RAZR
The second one would be the Samsung Galaxy Nexus which comes with the latest Ice Cream Sandwich variety of Android.
And finally the Samsung Galaxy S II.
As for the new iPhone 4s, it does have some decent hardware inside and looks quite good but it's Apple which means you pay a higher premium than you ought to and the OS is very restrictive in terms of what you can and can't do. I like my freedom too much and don't like being dictated to by the likes of the recently departed Steve Jobs.
All the best.
i am using this phone from 1 year itx the best phone i ever had specially love the cam =D
AnonD-28873, 06 Nov 2011hi ray
after using both platform which is android and symbian belle, belle is still more ef... more
You are correct, Android running on low spec hardware is a nasty experience. Just five minutes playing with my friends Wildfire was enough for me.
Android running on my Galaxy S is a much better experience but there is still a very slight lag now and again and I don't particularly like the Touchwiz interface. The main reason I use the SGS as my main phone is the size of the screen. It makes reading text a lot easier than on my N8.
The rooting procedure on Android phones basically gives you super user privileges to allow access to the root of the OS. This is useful for certain apps such as Titanium Backup which wouldn't work otherwise. The downside to rooting is that it opens the phone up to attacks from viruses and the like. Not so with Symbian which is incredibly immune from viral attacks without the need for third party anti-virus software.
I wasn't going to bother updating my N8 to Belle but I probably will now, just to see what it's like.
All the best.
AnonD-7455, 07 Nov 2011 Well, I agree with you, Android runs better on higher specs and needs them to run as smooth... morehi there
another thing is, one person told me that i have to root my android phone to maximize the usage of it, in n8 we dont need to do that just to maximize its performance.
fred, 06 Nov 2011hi Mahesh, mine did d same thing after i updating my phone to Anna. press and hold the menu ke... moreHeeyyyyy fffrrreeeedddd....
I did the same as u said...
Finally my n8 get started..
& luckilly i didn't loose any data..all my songs & videos are as it is....
Thanx once again....
Did you feel any change after anna update...bcoz i don't think there is much difference in ^3 & anna...wat do you think??
AnonD-28873, 06 Nov 2011hi ray
after using both platform which is android and symbian belle, belle is still more ef... more Well, I agree with you, Android runs better on higher specs and needs them to run as smoothly. I have have an N8 and an HTC/Droid phone. I think the N8 with Belle will be a great combo and very usable. The ram and cpu will be very good after reviewing the various forums and videos with the "unofficial" installs on N8s out there.
To Rays point, it may be too little too late, but it'll still be an outstanding value with exceptional connectivity and usablilty. The N8 is still available, this too says something about its viablity as it's been in the market over a year.
Phary, 06 Nov 2011Who can help of ? My Nokia N8 when I update it to anna it stop working . What can I do ?you need to di hard reset - volume down key, menu key, camera key and on/off press all together until you see nokia hands
Well its been a year and my N8 continues to impress. Ordered a HD media player and got a broke one. Having some friends over, what can I do? Well hooked up my N8 to the tv via hdmi. First time I've done it since Anna update. I was blown away by the new interface. This thing really rocks. The N8 is great
after using both platform which is android and symbian belle, belle is still more efficient on lower cpu and gpu... Hell angry birds lags bigtime on my android 600mhz cpu and adreno 200 gpu.. Only good thing in android is ui and thats what many people are blind of. Im not saying that android is not a good os but its not performing well in low cpus...
Mahesh, 06 Nov 2011Hey i upgrade my n8 with symbian anna...bt it's not switching on now..it has stuck with the na... morehi Mahesh, mine did d same thing after i updating my phone to Anna. press and hold the menu key + volume down key + camera key at the same time and on the phone and release ur hand. it will come up but u will lose evrytin like settings, documents, vidoes and pictures and ovi maps and store. that is what it did to recover my phone but i am lucky to have a backup.