SE is doing what you call niche marketing. they have several different kinds of phones and they vary widly in features (as opposed to, say, motorola phones, many of which are exactly the same besides the outside appearance) but no phone has EVERY feature. this is a step towards the future, where phones will be modularized, and you will be able to mix and match accessories around a central core. but since this is a ways off, I'm sticking with the phone that has everything: the N80.
United Nokia fans,
for the record im not a Nokia fan or hater,
i change brand and model twice a year
and i respect all the brands.
U dont have to loose ur temper and insult everybody if ur favourite company gets onwed...
3mp-> so what?->tell that to the N80 praisers, half of the forum is full with them...
About the walkman function,
the official site says flight mode
and the reviews i red report it really has it, besides my remark was ironic, thats why i added a smily, i m sure some time SE will lounch a W-type of K800,
what a constructive arguementation u made there!!
MS i partially agree, but SE has no choice really, they have to support Sony's memory sticks, they dont manufacture them,
Neither Nokia makes SD, they just copy paste them,the entirnal memory though its a nother thing
Wlan?? i do have Wlan in my laptop and might have the change to use it, but the great majority of users sould be more than pleased with bluetooth 2 for mobile2mobile comunication/share and USB 2 on package for PC, its just a new need Nokia wnat to create for comercial/profit reasons.
I didnt say Symbian is for newbiew on the contrary its tooooo complicated for newbies,
Java is the official language of mobiles,
its easy to use, much more stable/bugs, cheaper(all the mobiles can have it => no compatiblity problems or extra cost problems)
Java can handle every need of the average user,
opera broswers,word readers,Nes emulators etc
Again that finished N80?
if Cam+compact is important even LG can own it,
if features many many others,
the N80 was popular for a certain reason and u know that...
and it got owned home on its strenghs points
What the Suck SE Phone ! ! !
the SE Design look childish, what we need is Function but not Design. Now A Day, Nokia Design also look more nicer than SE oledi ... Seems N70 / N80 / Nokis 8800 / Look more Class, is suitable for RICH person like us. But SE Design is jus like Childish ! ! ! Not Standard Not Class at all, seems like for those Childish person use only. Try to Compare the Function with N80. Oh No ! ! ! "SE" Jus stand a side okay ... ! ! !
Sorry SE , that`s truth ! ! ! BWAHAHAHA ... SE really low standard and Not Class at All. This will Lower ppl`s Standard, tat`s what i don`t like . SUCK ! ! !
Every one got diffrent Opinion, cannot said SE K800 is batter than N80. or something like Cell with Camera not Camera with phone. Alright, i like travelling and i hate bring a lot of terrible PDA or CAMERA or Laptop. So, now the N80 is useful for me ! i can use WiFi where ever got wireless access, some more i can directly capture without wating Digital Camera Boot. i also can Check Email and get some information VIA 3g or WiFI services. On the other hand, i can listen to the Radio or MP3 with out bringing any MP3 player. So, what SE can do actually ? No 3g No WiFi, some more will Jam and Quick Low Batt. Oh No ! if not worng, SE software always got problem. So ... is depent on ppl`s Opinion.
To all HARD CORE Sony Ericsson BIG TIME FANATICS!!!:
please stop complaining about a mobile phone without auto-focus. u all know y? bcoz a mobile phone is a mobile phone and definitely NOT a TRUE digicam! cellphones with a camera is just a bonus and a majority of people will agree with me that flash and auto-focus are not that important features in a phone! if you want a real digital camera then buy a REAL digital camera not a sub standard digicam bundled with a cellphone! no wonder Sony Ericsson is beaten by samsung and motorola by rank in the mobile industry in terms of sales because "phone features" are better in them and nokia the worldwide leader in mobile phone market has the best balanced feature set with excellent and "real" phone features! here's a better view!
Nokia = Excellent Phone with great multimedia and entertainment functions and bonuses
Sony Ericsson = Great Still Camera (with slow auto-focus [takes around 4-8 seconds] b4 a picture is actually taken; great multimedia and entertainment functions BUT very INEFFICIENT in "real" phone features!
that's why SE is behind samsung and motorola and way way far behind to nokia! bcoz a mobile phone is USED primarily for COMMUNICATION and not to USE it mainly for taking PICTURES and make them act as a real digicam! maybe SE should know this so they can make more money like motorola, samsung and nokia. perhaps SE fans use their mobile phones primarily in taking pictures and not for communication that's y they like SE! hahaha, absurd!
I can bet my right arm that K800 will have a better camera than N80,
i have seen many previews on both phones,
than many different sources,
in most of the pages here all ppl were praising this phone and Nokia only because of the 3mp cam and the compact size, that was the best thing their eyes captured so far in the market,
K800 has also a great pack of features and doesnt need the crappy Symbian OS all the smartphone wonnabies have,
if u want a real smartphone go buy a Treo,O2 or smth (not even M600->Symbian 9,1)
I was there though to remind the Nokia fans this is a known comercial strategy from Nokia to try and gain the theoretic supremacy of tech anouncing phones much earlier than their competitors
and here comes K800 with a better camera and a more compact design, this phone got owned ,beaten at its strong points, even before get on market...
Hey Andy Burgin,
I'ma make this short, gotta run off to a meeting in 10!
First off, i say to myself, you want a crazy ass camera, go buy a camera, i wanna buy a cell with a camera and not a camera with a phone! I like a balance, and not the best in one and not the other, i'd much rather get something that is great in everything, and the N80 does just that. Hell if the N80 had no camera at all, (except for 3G camera) i would still get it over the K800 personally. And it would be smaller lol.
Secondly, what you on and on about K800 being better, then you contradict youself by saying N80 should improve software! Are you for real. Symbian S60 3rd Edition Operating System in the N80, what K800 got huh!
K800 is a great phone, i really like it, it's durable, it's dependant, it has many great features and it really depends what you want, period, nothing is better than nothing, they are all different in thier own fasion, but when you wanna talk facts, get em sorted out first bro!
You see i told you,
it was just a comercial trick
and by the time this phone is getting out for sale,
the other brands will already have the answer to own Nokia once again (SE K800)
Nokia was never innovative,
they just announce their phones earlier...
you sould learn smth after all those years...
Hey, Jo, I assume you are from Spain.How do you know the release date for the N80 in Spain?, because i've been asking for it in Nokia shops, calling Vodafone, Movistar and Amena and they never told me anything useful,hope your info is for real.
Just saw some news about n80 saying it has iTunes with it. Is that true? its gonna be cool if n80 has it...
its set for march! still vodaphone will get it on april lol i so hope movistar bring this one
This phone rocks! It's got a great design, 3.2mp camera, Wi-fi and more. Go nokia! BUT i don't think the design is as good as the N92, and it doesn't have DVB-H wich is a bit of a let down, but yet the N92 doesn't have 3mp camera. I have a sony K750, and i love the pictures, but i want nokias video recording capabilities!! The n70 video was great, you'd only think that the n80's video will be better, but the same would b fine... If they only had the 3.2mp on the N92 i'd get that, but im gonna have to settle for the n80 cause i need to upgrade from 2mp sony. ALSO i need to get this phone before april the 4th - I hope it comes out, i'm calling nokia and asking places every chance i get but no one knows. I need it in Australia NOW - I'll be waiting for you Nokia N80!
Have a great day.
All you SE fans, what makes you think that k800 is better? OK, it depends on what you're looking for in a phone. I think f.ex. that the camera in k800 will be better than n80, because the lack of autofocus and so on. On the other hand, nokia improves with their connectivity: EDGE, WLAN, UnPn, 3G and so on, havent seen a SE which is better than nokia at that specific field. And if youre really upset with cameras, go and buy a digital camera, much better to be honest..
Nokia better get there mobiles sorted out as quick as they can the N80 might pull people with the design but if its camera is a big disappiontment Samsung an Sony Ericsson are going to show them up i even went to the Nokia web page as i am a club nokia member an let Nokia a message please put Auto-focus on your cameras an they replyied we will look into that,they better add this function to challenge Samsung an Ericcson,thats why i got the K750i an left nokia for the first time an i might be tempted to keep away from Nokia why have they not improved its cameras an its software
I was trying to make this post on my-symbian.com but i just registered so not able till 24hours hehe!
I don't think there is a relationship between the fact that an increase in PS to 300+ would be made, that the battery should become more powerful/longer! Yes more spead = more battery usage but i wouldn't bet on the fact that the mere factor of the N80's battery being weak (820mAh) is the reason why a PS increase is out of the question!
The only reason i have to back my reasons is a future much better battery sold for the N80 or any other N-Series for that matter.
1. It was done before
2. It's a great marketing strategy to make us spend more
3. They don't want to delay longer for the launch of the phone with yet another upgrade.
Just my 2 cent.
I just read your post on symbian site, very interesting! Makes a lot fo sence and sure does have the back means behind it.
Though my insight on ~330MHz PS was from Nokia Asia! My father works there and he was told by a press confress in china that a boost to 300+ was on the works for the new N-Series Nokia!
Also, I am very close with the founder of Cesium Telecom and he confirmed to me that it would be 330 as well.
Now i am not makign this phone neither do i work for nokia, so am i 100% sure? NO of course not, but i'm just sharing my insight on what i'm unfolding! Sorry if i wasn't clear about that earlier but there you have it.
Thanx for making me clear that up Alexx.
k800 better than N80??? HAHAHA! pleeeease... k800 is a DUMPphone... there's no way in hell that it can beat a smartphone like N80. On top of that it's missing both WLAN and EDGE! those are reasons to choose N80 alone! Not to mention UPnP. and of course... the screen on N80 is MUCH better. How you can even compare these two phones is behond me...
Lami: How do you know it has 330MHZ? Are you 100% sure?
And for the record... about the my-symbian link. That was me who made that post (I'm Iceman5 on my-symbian.com)