n91 user, 02 Oct 2008you put up a good argument. but you know what? it does not change the fact that n91 in many as... moreThe fact that you say the N91 and N81 use the same hardware already indicates lack of knowledge. N91 uses an old TI OMAP1750 220mhz CPU, whereas N81 uses a Freescale I.MX31 369mhz CPU.
What N81 improves on is little and doesnt matter? Yep thats an ignorant statement.
N81 has better battery life, larger display, better screen resolution, better ergonomics, better size, better UI, much faster interface, more RAM to multitask, better memory management, better Web browsing etc. . .but offcourse the above dont matter hey? Only music quality? Lol!
Actualy the 3250 was the 1st S60v3 device. N91 was announced 1st and took a lot of delays,so the 3250 was officialy the 1st S60v3 to be released with a fully functional s60v3 UI.
Actualy QVGA 30FPS video recording was already here in the SE W900, and a few other devices before N91. Cif 15fps was disgusting and extremely midiocre.
N91 had a 2mp camera with no Autofocus, no LED flash and a very basic UI, there were already music phones with better cameras.
NOKIA put the poor old 176x220 s60v2 resolution on N91 yet were putting 352x416 resolution in their N90 and other flagships.
Yep N91 had Wi-Fi but so did N80 and N93 soon after.
So no the N91 wasnt realy amazing, im suprised someone who claims to know so much about S60 has made so many mistakes.
If you open your eyes you'll realise that N91 already added enough and theres not much else that can be added on top but rather IMPROVEMENTS that have been made, many of you seem too focused on new features instead of IMPROVING the ones we already have, thats what N81 did, and its a great improvement, with an extremely stable and nearly bug free UI, my N81 hardly ever if at all restarts, freezes or slows down. It does EVERYTHING its meant to do PROPERLY as a Smartphone, and Entertainment device, the N91 couldnt, it was great at Music and thats it, even if it had alot of new features it couldnt do them all properly, and its low battery life made it nearly useless. Same is the case of N95 and N85. The N85 is an improvement on N95s mistakes.
Yes i know what 1st means. It means BUGS BUGS BUGS and loads of mistakes! Thought you knew that?
Yes N81 is plasticky but thats what ALL the current Nseries devices are like, N96, N78, etc. . . All use similar materials, in fact the N78 seems to be using cheaper materials.
The N91 was indeed the best at sound quality, it showed us that Smartphones are more than just boring business devices, it showed that Smartphones can also be great at multimedia (music) and for that i have lots of respect for the N91, it paved the way for Music Smartphones and im happy about that but the N91 was nothing special, and s60 regulars waited for the N80 and passed the N91 because it just didnt much else properly and had an old screen resolution.
Now please go back to your N91 Forum and carry on praising it there. :)
to the one with the big problem....
just a point of clarification... The reformatting is done by pressing and holding the asterisk key, number 3 key, and the green call receiver key.. Press and hold them before you turn-on the device and don't let go until the country selection appears.
that ought to do it.
the white screen appears for unlimited time
i thought about formatting it by green key+3+*
but i don't respond!!!!!
pls reply me
my phone n81 doesn't work!!!
i have installed many of apps from ipmart forum and when restating the phone it appears the boot pic "NOKIA" then a white screen appears
any ideas????? i am really scared!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tsepz pls help me
leave the n78 and n91 users, their phone sucks!!!!
he guys .. i wanted to take a n81 .... if u guys can mail me its qualities .. my email address is firstname.lastname@example.org.... or u can suggest me a phone in n series that is worth buying and has a good sound quality and has WI FI.. please please mail me as fast as u can ... or suggest me a good phone .... my email address is email@example.com
Tsepz, 02 Oct 2008Lol, N81 was released November 2007, its only rivals being the Samsung i450, SE W910, Moto Z6w... moreyou put up a good argument. but you know what? it does not change the fact that n91 in many aspects, considering its age, is still better than n81! you must have forgotten that n91 was a revolutionary device and during its time, no other smartphones had the same rich sets of features as n91. the highest megapixel count in a phone during that time is 2mp and n91 had it. the highest video reso & frame rate was cif @ 15fps and n91 had it. wifi, then, was reserved to extremely pricey business handsets and no other s60 device was equipped with wifi but n91 had it. if you're saying that n91 was a useless smartphone, well let me remind you that n91 was the very first s60 3rd edition device and you probably know by now what accompanies the word "first" in the smartphone world.. do you? but in the case of n81, it was released that there was almost nothing new added to it compared to n91. and if there is, that is just so minor and is almost completely unfelt. n81 is not even to be considered as an n91 upgrade. it doesn't upgrade on anything but on insignicant details only. it's just a music phone in a new flavor. it's not in anyway revolutionary. the hardware is still the same as it was, only the software has changed. the built is so poor, the materials are so cheap. n81 is a disappointment anywhere you look at it. and by the way, i'm not an ex s40 user. i know almost anything about nokia s60. i only buy the best value device, and this n81, is not!
p.s.: n91 has better sound quality via 3.5mm jack than n81 and n76.
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Lol, N81 was released November 2007, its only rivals being the Samsung i450, SE W910, Moto Z6w and E6. Now looking at all those competitors the N81 was CLEARLY ahead and didnt need things like GPS and 3.2mp camera. I dont understand why you're here trippin kdsf.
Its as if those poor kids who weren't able to afford a Nseries finaly got a chance to get a N78 and now they think they own the best thing ever made. Power is a strange thing, give it to the wrong people and they make fools out themselves, thats what NOKIA did with N78, they put GPS and a midiocre Camera and now its little users think they're on top.
Lol great MP3 players are the ones that play FLAC, WMA Lossless etc. . .like the Zune 30GB, even iRiver makes great audio players, and Cowon, Creative have amazing audio players, thats what you buy if you want true audio quality. The N91 has a reputation for being extremely limited even for its time a true Symbian S60 knows the N91 was a useless smartphone thats why they bought N80 or N93. The N81 is not outdated compared to its competitors, its still a great fully fledged Gaming & Music Smartphone with other talents, it still passes as a great smartphone with enough RAM to multitask, great loudspeakers, great for Audio Books, great battery life, amazing for Web Browsing, etc. . . Clearly im dealing with imature ex s40 users who finaly got a chance to touch a s60 lol.
i m going to buy this cell ph but i m bitt confused btw n78 & n81 can any budy tell me which 1 is better. And what abt LG KP320? Is it good ph??
i have this phone, i have installed lots of app then when restating the phone it says NOKIA than a white screen appear!!
i am really scared pls help
Anonymous, 02 Oct 2008Excuse me, but TRUE AUDIOPHILES wouldn't want their music processed or anything, so they would... moreno you don't have to buy an n91! it's been in the market for the longest time already and it has achieved its status as a reputable and ultimate music phone till now. and neither n91 users need to buy an n81. it's pointless! the drawbacks you are stating on n91 are excusable knowing that this phone was created 3 years ago where mobile technology was still immature. but n81's outdatedness considering that it's just one of the most recent phones around is unforgivable! what other portable mp3 players around you know that can beat or at least has the same level of sound quality of n91? kindly exclude all ipods, they all sound crappy. now can you at least name one and i'll try it for myself?
Its a true Nseries because it actualy has a proper positioning as a Music & Gaming phone and is the best at it. Thats the Nseries for you all have a proper market position and are the best in it, well except theres one Nseries being used as a market test dummy and a few months after its release its successor was announced, not mentioning its name because its users are so emotional and hell bent on convincing themselves that its a good phone lol!
Anyway seems like N81 is still selling a lot of units, due to it being such a great device, the N96, N79 and N85 are going to the same im sure, i dont know about that other cheap and creaky Nseries though lol.
ahmed, 01 Oct 2008dear all, could any one tell me whether its possible to create folders in n81 8gb? i am going... moreYes you can create folders. Its a fantastic phone! Very versatile, the extra keys you get with it allow use in any orientation you want it, be it landscape or portrait. Its a very stable phone, runs extremely smooth, has amazing audio quality, it can multitask without slowing down, i ran just over 10apps at once and it just kept its speed. The keypad is great, very easy to use, nothing is loose. With latest firmware it has the complete FP2 Menu Transitions and Effects, its well built no creaky covers or anything, it has long battery life due to its 1050mAh Li-Polymer battery which are the best quality batteries available plus it has On-Demand-Paging for less power consumption and less RAM consumption. Its the best for Gaming and Music currently, it does both plus others VERY WELL, the way its supposed to withov any glitches. Its a great Multimedia device, you'll enjoy it, i'd also look at 6210-Nav, 5320xm,6220c,N96, N79 and N85 since both those are the only FP2 devices worth getting. :)
Excuse me, but TRUE AUDIOPHILES wouldn't want their music processed or anything, so they wouldn't use a N91 either.
In the latest Nseries the N81 is the best at audio, i wouldn't buy a N91 just to listen to music. If i was a true audiophile i would get something thats especialy made for extreme high quality audio,and no phone can produce that. The people who use a N91 are not true audiophiles, just "wanna be's". The N91 was useless at everything else, couldnt even run Web and a large Document at the same time without closing something down. Its main purpose was to be a smartphone but couldn't do that.
ahmed, 01 Oct 2008dear all,
could any one tell me whether its possible to create folders in n81 8gb? i am going... moreYes,of course it can
The multitasking go well even you're browsing web while listening to the music
The sound itself is good heard from the headset or loudspeaker
N81 is for average users only. It will satisfy the least demanding people. But for audiophiles, N91 is perfect. It doesn't leave you hanging.
n81 can only wish it had the same audio quality of n91! when you owned an n91 and used it as your main music player for 3 years, it's hard to downgrade to another music phone as much as sound quality is concerned. no arguments can change the fact that n91's sound quality is much better than n81's! n81 is just a "should've, would've, could've been" device! it always has a sense of incompleteness!
What? N78 cam only 3.2 mp? The same camera like old N73 has, 6500 slide even better cause of it's double LED flash. I prefer N82 instead cause of it's 5.0 MP CAM + XENON FLASH