Again, another SE fan defending the useless K850 that you pay 530USD for no features. Yes i need the GPS, yes i need great video quality, yes i need bigger screen, and yes i need better features like the N82 has to offer...!
This is a good phone, got a lots of features, although I can't say that wether loads of features slow down this phone like previous nokia phones..but why do U people think K850 is bad??Here are some things you need to learn.
1. Not everyone in this world need GPS..in many countries its useless.
2. Yes nokia has better video quality but are you a file director or what??why do u need VGA video anyway??I think qvga is enough..I am not shooting no movie.
3. As for the picture its a known fact that SE cams show you what actually is there unlike nokia which automatically apply effects like saturation and contrast so pictures look pleasent BUT accuracy counts folks...SE cams are best because they are accurate,now for a novice users nokia way is better as everything is "ready made" but for a more experience user this approach has no appeal, I for one like to experiment with the pictures, edit them my way not automatically "polished" pictures like nokia cams. You can read the comparison of K800 & N73 to confirm this fact.
Thats why for novice users K850 is not good as you actually have to know what you are doing rather then just point and shoot stuff that nokia offers..and IF you know what are you doing then SE cams are unbeatable. I have w810i and I can guarantee you that I have not seen any nokia with a 2mp cam that can match my cam. K800 beat N73 with a great margin, as for the recent comparison of K850 and N95..the thing nokia fans tend to ignore is that at that time K850 was not a final product...if K800 can stand on its grounds firmly in front of N95 then don't you think its a bit stupid to say that K850 camera sucks???The truth is that K850 has a great camera..but nokia users perhaps don't know how to shoot pictures and want thier cell phone to help them in it and show them an "artificial" image greatly enhanced automatically by built-in effects. So if you are novice user..better stick with nokia.
4. I have used nokia and I am using SE..and I can tell you that nokia is for people who just want everything presented "ready made" on the other hand SE is for those who like to experiment and explore thier mobile. I have W810i and I have modded it so it lacks nothing(except smaller screen size) I have password protected my mobile, am using tons of flash themes and custom icons and believe me no nokia looks that good when I am using the "special" themes and icons, I have modified my audio drivers and have made this set VERY loud to such an extenet that no nokia can compete it in loudness and quality(on headphones), have modded my cam drivers and its superb with every option that a nokia n73 has and there is even a way to convert the format of saved videos to mp4 but I don't need it so have not tried it and all of it has been done WITHOUT symbian os...so who needs that boring os which only causes the mobile to slow down and hang a lot???
I can use internet, send and recieve emails, use mms, watch videos, enjoy high quality music(thats the most important thing) and can rely on the long lasting battery life which is only a dream for the nokia users, what more do you want on a mobile???Unless you need a slow like hell mobile that most of nokias are..not everyone needs symbian os..its not a very stable os.
5. As for the 16m colors, I have said it again and again that 16 million or 256k, on a mobile screen it DOES NOT much difference, the only difference it makes is that the battery dies too early..no proof needed..right?? 256k is more than enough for a mobiel screen and no human eye can differentiate between these colors on mobile screen. I have even seen some SE sets that look much better than nokia screens.
In the end...I would again say that N82 looks promising and got lots of features BUT not everyone in this world need all those features in thier mobiles because the truth is that a mobile CANNOT handle all these features,N95 is an example which has suffered a lot on the performance side because of these tons of features. I need a fast and stable set, jst like my W810i which I have been using for one and a half year and it has never gave me ANY problem even for once.
I have said all this to show you that not everyone is satisfied with the nokia way, even with all those features, everyone has thier own preferences...so stop dissing K850i as it is a great set with everything a mobile SHOULD have just not the fancy extra features like N82..and I belive I can live with that very very happily :-)
I saw the phone yesterday in a retail store, and i must say, it looks way better than i expected. It looks solid and well built, although the keypad are abit small, the whole body look very shiny and scratch proof. I dont know about the feature yet, but i'm sure it must be pretty good, plus in my country, cambodia, its over 100 dollars cheaper than the n95 8g, its only 550. this phone will certainly give SE a run for their money, this is nokia's direct competition to K850i, and i think nokia will come out on top.(although i'm a SE fan)
wow loving the phone just got it from popularelect.com man i love u people
After receiving my N82 today I have been thrashing the media player quite a bit. First and foremost yes the size is bigger but its not as heavy as what everybody says. It feel good to hold and the buttons depress effectively when sending SMS's. I agree the battery life could be better but using the phone under normal conditions (in my case, phone tech support) it holds really well. I even use it with SIP using the Wifi and it handles very well.
I am very surprised in the sound that the MP3 player gives. I am comparing this with a Nokia N80, E61i and an SE w850i. I am using a 2 bluetooth recievers DS-970 an HS-200 both from SE. I am also using my own headfones an Sony in-ear design. First let me start with the speaker on the N82 compared to all the other Nokia's I have, the N82 is by far superior, it also has 2 speakers to one side of the phone. It has the capability to use stereo widening witch is compared to Dolby stereo with is a great feature. I compared with the SE w850i and the N82 has a fully editable graphic equalizer. It has an 8 bands EQ for you to toy with, even with this the mega-bass from the w850i the walkman phone cannot compare with the low deep richness of this Bass of the N82. Nokia have considerably improved the mp3 player to their best. There some really nifty visulaizations that can make playing music on this phone pleasure to watch but thats is just cosmetic.
If any of you are wondering about bugs or freezing of the OS....I have not experienced this. Note I also have a 4gb card and its full of music some word docs and excel sheets and its performing well above expectation. There are NO performance issues and its still lightning fast. I had the opportunity to use my friends N95 8gb a week ago for a day and I did have experience performance issues. Whatever issue Nokia had with the previous models I believe that they have irons them out.
Navigating from messaging to contact and to emails was fast. There was no lag and again performed upto par. On startup again it was fast upto to 3 secs approx.
The camera is a fantastic. OK its not DSLR but for a point an shoot its perfect. I took a test picture in complete darkness and the phone managed to focus at an object without any problems. As with all camera phones there will be pre-processing involved... So let me just say Nokia you have done wonders with this snaptastic piece of innovation. I was going to buy a seperate P&S camera to accompany my DSLR but this is great. This is truely a Swiss Army Phone.
So to all you Nokia haters out there!!! Don't judge the book by its cover. Try and get your hands on this device and use it for a week before passing judgement. According to a recent research Nokia now holds 38% of the world market share. SE comes in 3rd place according to a swedish technology paper.
I hope this helps some of the peeps that questions.
well i checkd out this phone from a local nokia store nearby !
i was shocked by the size of keypads !!
damn how cud u possibly try makin so small keypads !!
hmmm anywayz still i liked the fone lol . .
coz it got "THE FEATURES" !
to All SE fans plz . . stop comparin it to k850
come on get a life . . k850 got nothin
m i lyin ??
- no navigation
- no wifi ( for god sake . . atleast there shud b wifi . . it's better to buy sony handy cam rather then k850 then ! )
- it got xenon flash ( ahan . . sorry SE fans . .this 1's xenon flash ;) )
- it's not symbian :p
so n82 is the clear winner . .it has all the features u want guys (comes with 2gb mmc )
well im gona buy it in a week !
the price is reasonable too ( given the fact it got so many damn gud features which hav been never together in a cell fone ( if ur saying it's same as n95 . . n95 didnt hav xenon flash !! )
k den all of u . . tc
are you kidding me phone of the year, it is exactly the same as n95, with different design and a lousy keypad
if they improve the battery life and hanging problems it is much more better
this will result for a drawback, for sure there will be a black edition for this
wonder if this has scanner in it like n95 cause got a few items somewhere to scan,,the n95 worked well and do not know how it deciphers a mosaic type jpeg into info,,supposd to be opening up more in 2008 on posters etc,jason bradbury (uk gadget show)has one on his website to decode using scanner.
hi can anybody tell me which mobile is better and louder in sound while listning to music (N82 or N95 original) not N95 8g??
plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz email answer to me.thanx
Why are SE fanboys still here? Although I have 2 SE phones, you don't see me start bashing Nokia phones or starting flames! Until you start using smartphones for once, you will never know how useless your phone is. I, for one am grateful of Symbian's existence, otherwise, my P1i would not be created. For f**k sake, leave the Nokia forums alone, so I could know more when I'm considering a Nokia purchase!
k850 have still a brighter, better screen..its a fact..
it manage sunshine better, (because of its new screen-technology)....see here...k850 vs n95 screen
i have also compare both screen side by side..and k850 had a brighter screen...n95 screen is not bad, but is not better.
and last.........java based phones are faster then symbian based phones..thats a fact to.
(its just silly to say something else)
its little better..but it still have jpeg-artifacts...k850 have similiar quality....n82 record only slightly better.
k850...(recorded in lower fps..but good quality
Want to see real N82 video recording?
Really good quality!
What N82 have that K850 doesn't have:
-30 fps VGA video capture
-2.4″QVGA 240×320, 16M colors screen
-3.5 mm audio output jack
-Office document viewer
-Fast Symbian OS 9.2, S60 rel. 3.1
-microSD up to 32GB, 2 GB card included
-secondary videocall camera
-AND MANY MORE....
I saw more than 10 serious review about the K850...conclusion: bad video recording, take dark pictures, thick for no features, and full of bugs.
The N82 destroy the K850!
this phone is a n95 in disguise, got all the functions of n95 except 8gb memory. dont even think of buying sony ericsson i do admitt they got the best music,design and camera but friends have a common sense u can do much more with a symbian phone, sony always lacks somthing even thier top products like p1 and w960 doest have edge and their video quality sucks only 15 fps.
i think it will b the one of the most successful mobile of N-series.everything nice espacially shape
oh GOD what a.this thing is absolutely.oh my words.i dont no but.but.oh.this is very .......... i mean simply this one realy SUCKS!!!!!!!.completely pirated keypad from SE.but still looks cheap???i wonder but mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm nokia u know having so much of ---------