N96, N85 and N79 are quite disappointing products from Nokia. These are just more or less exact replicas of N95 8GB, N95 and N82. They don't differ much in terms of functionality. They are created to give customers plenty of options to choose from. So, Samsung is taking the lead this time with their all-in-one multimedia powerhouse Samsung INNOV8 and their touchscreen flagship device, Samsung OMNIA. Nokia loses to Samsung this time. I think Nokia should fire the engineers and designers who developed N96, N85 and N79. Nokia is always behind other mobile phone companies when it comes to innovation. APPLE which is not even a mobile phone company was the first to revolutionize touch based screen devices. And it took 2 long years for Nokia to create their iPhone version! Nokia is stuck with 5MP camera phones. While all other mobile phone companies have their 8MP camera phones already released in the market. Nokia is paying attention to lousy innovations that don't matter like DVB-H. Nobody needs it since its not yet widespread and I think it will take at least 5 more years to become fully available globally. N96 was released too late. 16GB cards is now available. N96 should've been released a year ago when news about 16GB cards was not yet flourishing so people would be excited about it.
Anyways, don't get me wrong. These are just my opinions and I believe everybody is entitled to his/her own opinion. And Nokia should listen to my opinion because I believe my opinion is right!
And don't get me wrong again. My remarks are constructive criticisms unlike most opinions here which are purely rubbish! Hahaha!
Nevertheless, I still love Nokia. And I'm still going to buy an N85 because I'm a Nokia fangirl. Hahaha!
Anonymous, 23 Oct 2008(copy from previous posts)
It's so sad since Samsung Innov8 was posted as #1 phone rated on... morealso the battery life seems to be awful on the innov8, at least that's what i see on the comments.
so you shouldn't take that as a real advantage over the n85 and even the n96 =)
Anonymous, 23 Oct 2008(copy from previous posts)
It's so sad since Samsung Innov8 was posted as #1 phone rated on... moreJBenchmark only tests performance for specific Java calculations. Synthetic Java benchmark shows nothing noteworthy regarding real processor performance.
Freescale I.MX31 is a much better platform than old and power hungry OMAP 2430. You can read it yourself too. Here:
A standalone 3D accelerator has nothing to do with video recording, decoding and playback and photo processing. These are handled via Image and Video Accelerator found in the cpu or as another standalone chip. A standalone 3D accelerator isn't supported by most of the applications at all except by very limited number of Java games. N-gage games for Nokia do not support 3D accelerator.
Definitely N85>INNOV8 in terms of overall performance. INNOV8 is so bulky. I don't know much about N96 but I agree that INNOV8>N96.
What about sound quality in earphones of N85 compared to INNOV8? Does INNOV8 has dedicated sound processor?
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It's so sad since Samsung Innov8 was posted as #1 phone rated on gsmarena.com with design, features, and performance average of 8.8 just days ago. All of a suddon the ratings drops!! Hmmm.. It does show we have some Butthurt Nokia fans
Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 vs Nokia N96 vs Nokia N85 : Hardware Performance
CPU Platform :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : TI OMAP 2430 450MHz, 128MB RAM
- Nokia N96 : STMicroelectronics Nomadics STn8815 264MHz, 128MB RAM
- Nokia N85 : FreeScale I.MX31 369MHz, 128MB RAM
Jbenchmark 1.0.1 Total Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 4997
- Nokia N96 : 2796
- Nokia N85 : 3232
Jbenchmark 2.0.1 Total Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 532
- Nokia N96 : 358
- Nokia N85 : 548
Jbenchmark 3D HQ Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 873
- Nokia N96 : 155
- Nokia N85 : 195
Jbenchmark 3D LQ Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 979
- Nokia N96 : 283
- Nokia N85 : 380
Jbenchmark HD Gaming Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 956 (29.0 fps)
- Nokia N96 : 127 (4.2 fps)
- Nokia N85 : 166 (5.5 fps)
- Samsung i8510 : Standard, Li-Ion 1200 mAh, Stand-by Up to 310 h, Talk time Up to 8 h 30 min
- Nokia N96 : Standard, Li-Ion 950 mAh, Stand-by Up to 220 h, Talk time Up to 3 h 40 min !!!!!!!!
- Nokia N85 : Standard, Li-Ion 1200 mAh, Stand-by Up to 360 h, Talk time Up to 6 h 50 min
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 has faster hardware performance at the same level with Nokia N85, while Nokia N96 is the slowest.
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 fully utilize the potential of the 3D graphic accelerator. It is an absolute requirement for processing the camera, video recording, decoding and playback. Nokia N85 and N96 can't handle this perfectly because the lack of graphic accelerator.
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 are the best gaming phone today. U can enjoy your 3D or HD games running perfectly in 29 fps, while Nokia N85 and N96 only can run below 10 fps. Thank's to dedicated hardware graphic accelerator.
i purchase the nokia N85 and received the phone today
really great phone but mg im having big troubles with it
it keeps restarting on me ,iv read on the www that its a problem ,any other n85 have the same experiences im having .and any sign of an update to fix the problem
Anyone got any uk contract news. On vodafone, would love to upgrade, but getting fed up with wait. Noone seems to know any release dates , if at all.
Any help much appriciated.
Hi, i ve it since thepast two days. i ve listened to music thru n91 & needless to say, n85 s nowhere near tht in sq. but, its gud & can b consiered replacement for ur ipod. but volume s shocking to say the least. not so gud.
it worked like a perfect phone for 6 days then tonight: REBOOTED ON ITS OWN TWENTY TIMES! very sad...
Jacqui, 23 Oct 2008Please GSM Arena. Can you give a full review on this phone. Urgent.I want to know about the ca... moreFor a good review have a read here. They love the N85....
Please GSM Arena. Can you give a full review on this phone. Urgent.I want to know about the camera performance, sound quality and keypad - does it look and feel cheap?According to you, this looks like one of the best options at the moment of you want a Nokia phone so I want to know the final verdict.Please Please I am on my knees.
Now its available hope we get a review from gsmarena as i do not want waste time an money on a phone that does not live up to it expectations,still no contracts yet it the U.K as i am sure the operators want to clear out the N96 before they make the N85 available,hope someone does a review now its out
just trade in my n95 8gb for this. everything is good but not the keypad. Not as smooth as N95 other functions is as good. smarter, smaller and cheaper is the BUY
the legendary N91 is still unbeatable because nokia vowed never to create such a music monster again..
I've got a chance to play with N85 in a mobile phone store here in Singapore. I used to like N85 ever since it was announced because I thought it would be a great music phone with N95-ish resemblance, BUT, I was wrong. This phone is just an enhanced version of N95, and NOT the successor of N81. Sound quality through 3.5mm jack is nowhere near N81. This is not a music phone. It is just a jack of all trades, master of none device. Camera quality, both stills and videos, is worse than N95. Sound quality via headset and speakers is too far behind N81. Probably the only noticeable good thing about N85 is the screen and battery life. But in everything else, N95 still beats it in performance.
From my experience with the phone after 2 weeks, Camera quality :
good light, landscape, no flash = good photo
good light, macro, no flash = good photo
low light, landscape, no flash = noisy photo
low light, macro, no flash = noisy photo
low light, landscape, flash = blurish and noisy photo
low light, macro, flash = ok photo but too dark on the edges