this is also a place which can promote failure and unpopular phone
such a nice place and free of charge
vice, 25 Mar 2009I hope for all our sakes that the price doesn't soar past 375 Euro like the N97 will do with i... morenormally, prices will be higher if you'll buy on the first 3 weeks after its release date and will gradually go down to its original intended price after that.
anonymous, 24 Mar 2009N86 is still under development and idou too.so staying under development both device produce s... moreBut you are not fair if you compare idou with N86 at the moment coz as you see there is no 12MP EXMOR sensor on idou prototype even there is no cybershoot or EXMOR logo on idou cover also the prototype lens is not 28mm wide angel so it is not real idou camera quality, there are 8 months left for developing idou..too early we make a complain about idou camera quality...EXMOR sensor it self will be shipped starting this month and the lens it self will be shipped in september so that is why SE didnt allow us to use idou camera at MWC and that is why there is no picture sample of idou camera in official SE site but iam suprised that why did gsmarena take picture samples from idou prototype?
the picture samples cant be used as real idou camera quality refference coz the prototype has diffe CMOS and lens.idou will use IMX060PQ EXMOR sensor and IU060F lens like official SONY announcement.
you and gsmarena are not fair, gsmarena just took the pictures from Fony.sk site not from official sony ericsson site.
i think you can be happy with your N86 camera quality but we still wait the real idou camera picture quality till september but we have already seen 8MP EXMOR CMOS sensor picture quality on SE S001, those picture sample are great.
iolo003, 24 Mar 2009bring this ON!! 66 days more to go!! 375 Euro ready!! c",I hope for all our sakes that the price doesn't soar past 375 Euro like the N97 will do with its initial price
dave, 24 Mar 2009pls tell me how can you tell us that N86 camera is the best?N86 is still under development and idou too.so staying under development both device produce sample image n whtever said idou produce worst pic quality with full of noise and N86 pic quality far better thn idou.if se lover can say idou is the best even its not released yet or not have extreme quality sample photo thn i can say N86 is the best bcz of i hv seen more better pic thn idou hv provided..
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970donno which brand copying the kickstand
NOKIA N96 equip with a kickstand at the back
desperate some brand , need to drop their platform and use NOKIA S60
anonymous, 23 Mar 2009best camera phone!!!!i will must buy this1pls tell me how can you tell us that N86 camera is the best?
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970OLED screen not TFT screen
plus it has FM-TRANSMITTER
w0w its nice very high MP u know that is good \
plssss the price isa low $3.51 tahnk u
Vice, a VGA screen means that the resolution is 640*480 pixels. In the case of both N82 and N86 the screen is QVGA which is only 320*240 pixels.
VGA camcording describes the resolution that the phone records video. It is 640*480 pixels on both devices. VGA recording can be at different speeds eg 15fps and 30fps. The latter gives a far better result, and thankfully is seen in both devices.
As for Xenon flash, it is simply the best. If it wasn't, digicams wouldn't use it. By making this an 8MP phone, Nokia is highlighting its photographic abilities. The dual LED simply lets the phone down. How can you have 8MP with dual LED? It is quite ridiculous and if this nonsense continues Nokia will lose credibility.
As a light source for camcording, third generation dual LED is barely passable. Yet be aware that this phone is being touted for its photographic ability and not camcording. They should have made sure that the photography section has the best......and the best is Xenon flash.
A compromise to this dire situation would have been to use Xenon for stills and LED for video ie have both on the device.
I have noticed that this phone does not have 3D Graphics Hardware Acceleration. Another addition to the long list of absentees!
vice, 22 Mar 2009I own a N82 and maybe it's just my unit or current firmware (V30) but the Xenon flash does ove... morexenon flash has a tendensy to do that, the dual leds on the nokia n86 they say are far more better just not in brightness but and they say that they are bright inough for night photography, by the way I was going to get the nokia n82 but then saw this and said no besides is really an ugly duckling as well.
Anonymous, 21 Mar 2009After quiet meditation, I have observed that this is a curious phone. It is neither an upgrade... moreI own a N82 and maybe it's just my unit or current firmware (V30) but the Xenon flash does over do it at times so i don't think i'll miss it all that much compared to dual LEDs. Be it auto, portrait or even worse, night portrait, the flash can be too intense at times and leave a white shine everywhere. I don't know but is there a difference between this VGA screen you talk about and the fact that the phone does record in VGA at 30fps? About the size, a 2.8 size screen would be nice but it comes at the cost of a bulkier phone (N95-4). One might as well get the INNOV8 from Samsung. I love my N82 but i'm getting this phone since I was about to go for the N85 anyway...
People even though this unit dont have a xenon flash, well the 3rd generation dual leds also called power leds can accualy privide the same amount of light as that of a xenon know.
Ive done research and found this out myself, so these 3rd generation leds can offer the same value why would you go for xenon when there is such a limit to the xenon flash, besides technolgy has come a long way, I know there are some people that will not believe this, but xenon is really old and besides nokia would not have put them in if they were know good.