well at last a camera phone to compete with a stanalone digital camera, looking foward to this coming out:-)it will alsobe an awesome camera "I recon the best out there for a camera phone"
I was pretty skeptacle that it only had dual leds as a flash and couldnt understand why they didnt add a xenon, but know as I have down alot of research on the 3rd edition dual leds and found out that they are powerful enough to take phontos in low light, it can even conpare to xenon know,
I was not going to get this phone because of no xenon flash but learn't that the 3rd generation dual leds are good enough;-)
Anonymous, 12 Mar 2009Nothing special about that lens... it is not remarkable... it is not an innovative idea... any... moreif i may allowed to add that sony's exmor technology is proprietary... meaning, sony's own... and sony alone... "like.no.other".
news leaked that the idou may even be fitted with sony's super steady shot technology... another sony's own... and again, "like.no.other".
Anonymous, 12 Mar 2009N86 is the world 1st cameraphone equip with variable aperture so with the 28mm lens Nothing special about that lens... it is not remarkable... it is not an innovative idea... any phone maker can do that... or buy that lens and put in their camera phones...
That lens is not breaking news... SE's Idou and SONY's Exmor imager/lens is ground breaking news...
N86 is the world 1st cameraphone equip with variable aperture so with the 28mm lens
NOKIA got a CONCEPT PHONE which better than the CANDYBAR CONCEPT PHONE
can change to many shape
candybar concept phone so boring
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970you donno those cybershot,walkman just a BRANDING??
if cybershot is very powerful,
how come c905 grab the last place at every review??
how come k850 grab the last place at every review??
how come se never won any imagine awards??
walkman make the mp3 player sale drop?? why don't you say ipod make the walkman sales drop??
It's so funny that someone said SE is beyond comparable coz like.no.other... Yeah, their phone realy so worthless that make it like.no.other... Idou is the first SE S60 Symbian, so what are u hoping? Nokia already used S60 in their 7650! SE is just so like.no.other that make them s.u.c.k.s! SE knows nothing bout Symbian S60! Soon Expire cheap, like their fanboy!
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970when we have good background n performance or ne wining history thn we can expect our nxt i mean upcoming or future things also will be outstanding or dominating.BUT unfortunately i could not find ne wining history of se!!rest of 5mgp N82 no1,thn som others after thn se K850 somewhere no3 n n4.rest of 8mgp again innov8 no1 n thn pixon or renoir n thn C905,only bcz of xenon flash here se C905 make some good shoot but in the end innov no1 n C905 somewhere 3rd or 4th...now its all about commonsense n simple that from 5mgp to 8mgp se increased thr camera performance but has failed to attain 1st place evn 2nd place too,n now frm 8mgp to 12mgp,yaa definitely performance has been increased but easy to guess not up2the mark.cz other brand have better performance history thn SONYERICSSON.yaa no doubt se is good company n i think best in audio quality,ya cz i know but on the other hand its true that in camera quality other have better performance,wht is true,should be accepted.so now just think se cant even defeat other phone brand n u r talking about point shoot camera!!if u say this with ur fantasy n impulse thn its okey but if by a sensible mind thn i would like to say u non-sense....
Anonymous, 11 Mar 2009my goodness! you can not compare se phones with others, more so with the boring nokia. se phon... moreooh 1 more thing,dont u see the 5mgp comparison???
check out thn u would know better:
Anonymous, 11 Mar 2009my goodness! you can not compare se phones with others, more so with the boring nokia. se phon... morehey buddy check out this,in overall performance N82 attain 2 whr C905 4th...read the reasons also...
No body like to buy camera after nokia 86
Here is good post on it.
Nevertheless, the Nokia N86 has one of the most impressively equipped 8 megapixel cameras closing the gap between cameraphones and point-and-shoot cams. It's the first and only cameraphone to offer variable aperture values (F2.4/F3.2/F4.8) and a 28mm wide-angle lens.
You can see the difference between the wide angle and a regular cameraphone lens. Here are two samples of one and the same scene taken simultaneously with a Nokia N86 8MP and another Nokia phone. The samples are downsized to 800x600 pixels as resolution is irrelevant. Just compare the field of view.
N86 wide angled
The other first-ever is the variable aperture. Having a variable aperture (like a regular digicam) instead of a fixed aperture (like a regular cameraphone) gives you one more way of controlling the amount of light that reaches the camera sensor.
In other words, smaller F aperture numbers let more light in, while higher aperture numbers reduce the incoming light. You still get the same exposure, as the camera compensates for the various aperture settings by varying the shutter speed or the ISO, which are the two other factors that determine the total amount of light that gets in.
But leaving the photography primer aside, the advertized aperture values of Nokia N86 8MP (F2.4/F3.2/F4.8) have two distinctive benefits.
The first benefit is that at F2.4 the N86 camera has more light to work with as compared to the standard F2.8 value of all cameraphones we've seen so far. In low light conditions that allows you to get higher shutter speeds (possibly less handshake blur) or lower ISO (possibly less noise) or even both.
The second benefit from the variable aperture is that when there's enough light, the camera sensor can let the aperture close down a bit more (F3.2/F4.8) thus creating images that are usually sharper and with better depth of focus field.
Here are several full-res camera shots taken with the Nokia N86 8MP at the Nokia booth. If you check out the images EXIF data however you would see that the aperture value is F2.8, which doesn't really match what Nokia advertized. We guess the N86 unit we used was a too early one to really show its potential.