dave, 02 Mar 2009why do you just focus in setting or component on the phone camera? why you dont think about th... moregiv dis kinda speech in se idou page too.u r right dis phone is not been tested yet on da other han idou too so y idou lover already hv decided dis is da best??only for dis dat it has 12mgp??bt u said claimed specification is need to b maitained da quality.idou has cmos sensor frm xmos dos it mean it is da best??just seeing da 12mgp n xmor if se lovr can decide idou is da best camera so y we couldn say evn wit knowin mor stronger specificatin dat N86 is da best..if u r true mobile fan n realy wait for review thn y ur msg is only in dis page y not in se idou,samsung hd page???????
Anonymous, 02 Mar 2009aperture got quality o.0???
what's type of quality??
said some i know you dont know about this...every thing has quality...
for example :
1. SE image stabilizer setting with Samsung image stabilezer setting have diff quality.
2. SE F2/8 aperture with samsung F2/8 aperture have diff quality.maybe SE aperture is better than samsung so SE aperture can get sharper image than samsung altough they have same aperture number, it is depend on camera quality.
sometimes nokia will make a phone with complete aperture like N86 has, iam sure the phone will have diff quality with N86.
plz note this prudoct,n86 8mp does not have menu key?wowww whats that?its very very loghtly for great company nokia.just have multimedia key design on your front slide handset n868mp
why do you just focus in setting or component on the phone camera? why you dont think about the quality of setting it self..each phone has diff quality it is why every phone that has same setting but the result is not same at quality..i didnt said this phone is bad but the quality hasnt been tested and compared yet...you guys only talk about purpose of the setting but forget about quality.is N86 aperture quality good ? we havent known about it if you can result it, yes you can but that is your assumtion and feeling based. i hope N86 aperture quality is as good as you said so you can be happy that your assumtion is right
N86 can control the light amount entering the image sensor
other worldwide camera phone with 2MP/3MP/5MP/8MP/12MP can't control cause the aperture is FIXED
N86 APerture can change size automatic according to the light at F/2.8,F/3.2,F/4.8
other worldwide camera phone with 2MP/3MP/5MP/8MP/12MP is FIXED AT F/2.8
image in bright light
N86 aperture will change to F/4.8
soon expire idou aperture will not change in bright light cause it is FIXED at F/2.8
N86 will produce a sharper image
image in normal light
N86 aperture will change to F/3.2
soon expire idou aperture will not change in normal light cause it is FIXED at F/2.8
N86 will produce a sharper image
this technology is come from digital camera
N86 cam can change aperture automatic at F/2.8,F/3.2,F/4.8
where other phone like
SOON EXPIRE IDOU aperture is FIXED at F/2.8
Most SLR cameras provide automatic aperture control, which allows viewing and metering at the lens’s maximum aperture, stops the lens down to the working aperture during exposure, and returns the lens to maximum aperture after exposure.
The first SLR cameras with internal (“through-the-lens” or “TTL”) meters (e.g., the Pentax Spotmatic) required that the lens be stopped down to the working aperture when taking a meter reading. With a small aperture, this darkened the viewfinder, making viewing and composition difficult. Subsequent models soon incorporated mechanical coupling between the lens and the camera body, indicating the working aperture to the camera while allowing the lens to be at its maximum aperture for composition and focusing; this feature became known as automatic aperture control or automatic diaphragm control.
For some lenses, including a few long telephotos, lenses mounted on bellows, and perspective-control and tilt/shift lenses, the mechanical linkage was impractical, and automatic aperture control was not possible. Many such lenses incorporated a feature known as a “preset” aperture, which allows the lens to be set to working aperture and then quickly switched between working aperture and full aperture without looking at the aperture control. Typical operation might be to establish rough composition, set the working aperture for metering, return to full aperture for a final check of focus and composition, and focusing, and finally, return to working aperture just before exposure. Although slightly easier than stopped-down metering, operation is less convenient than automatic operation. Preset aperture controls have taken several forms; the most common has been the use of essentially two lens aperture rings, with one ring setting the aperture and the other serving as a limit stop when switching to working aperture. Examples of lenses with this type of preset aperture control are the Nikon PC Nikkor 28 mm f/3.5 and the SMC Pentax Shift 6×7 75 mm f/4.5. The Nikon PC Micro-Nikkor 85 mm f/2.8D lens incorporates a mechanical pushbutton that sets working aperture when pressed and restores full aperture when pressed a second time.
Canon EF lenses, introduced in 1987, have electromagnetic diaphragms, eliminating the need for a mechanical linkage between the camera and the lens, and allowing automatic aperture control with the Canon TS-E tilt/shift lenses. Nikon PC-E perspective-control lenses, introduced in 2008, also have electromagnetic diaphragms. Automatic aperture control is provided with the newer Nikon digital SLR cameras; with some earlier cameras, the lenses offer preset aperture control by means of a pushbutton that controls the electromagnetic diaphragm.
i didn't even said zoom lens
but APERTURE ! aperture!
and some dump try to make other confuse
TAKE FROM WIKIPEDIA
The aperture stop of a photographic lens can be adjusted to control the amount of light reaching the film or image sensor. In combination with variation of shutter speed, the aperture size will regulate the film's degree of exposure to light. Typically, a fast shutter speed will require a larger aperture to ensure sufficient light exposure, and a slow shutter speed will require a smaller aperture to avoid excessive exposure.
Diagram of decreasing aperture sizes (increasing f-numbers) for "full stop" increments (factor of two aperture area per stop)
A device called a diaphragm usually serves as the aperture stop, and controls the aperture. The diaphragm functions much like the iris of the eye—it controls the effective diameter of the lens opening. Reducing the aperture size increases the depth of field, which describes the extent to which subject matter lying closer than or farther from the actual plane of focus appears to be in focus. In general, the smaller the aperture (the larger the number), the greater the distance from the plane of focus the subject matter may be while still appearing in focus.
The lens aperture is usually specified as an f-number, the ratio of focal length to effective aperture diameter. A lens typically has a set of marked "f-stops" that the f-number can be set to. A lower f-number denotes a greater aperture opening which allows more light to reach the film or image sensor. The photography term "one f-stop" refers to a factor of √2 (approx. 1.41) change in f-number, which in turn corresponds to a factor of 2 change in light intensity.
Aperture priority is a semi-automatic shooting mode used in cameras. It allows the photographer to choose an aperture setting and allow the camera to decide the shutter speed and sometimes ISO sensitivity for the correct exposure. This is sometimes referred to as Aperture Priority Auto Exposure, A mode, Av mode, or semi-auto mode.
What is wrong with all the Nokia Designer and Marketing Personnel?
Designer=Sleeping? Every design@ copy and paste
Marketing Personnel=Sleeping? Not even listen to the consumer opinion.
i will often reiterate my opinion why Nokia stands out.
it has everything a mobile user wants, hardware, software, customer service.
other brands focus themselves on one aspect alone, hardware which can easily be outdone by competitors and with the face growing advancement in technology, hardware becomes less and less of a concern.
nokia is not only the best in hardware aspect but software also and the most important of all customer service and this makes nokia best.
i'm a picky consumer thats why i cannot live with hardware alone, im not happy with the small stuff cpmpetitors add up like MP or HD, etc, its the total experience that makes me satisfied with Nokia.
At first i was very angry and dissapointed with nokia for releasing showing this phone as the highly antisipated 8MP mobile they had in there line up.
Putting it against the omnia HD and idou it really is allready outdated, but the best thing about nokia that i have realised having an n95 myself, is that when you buy a nokia phone you are buying quality regardless. I wouldnt ever get this phone , mabye N97 but i can see the camera on it beating the omnia HD or even the idou cause nokia with carl zies are the best, i have 5MP shots with my n95 that show so much quality, imagine when nokia goes mainstream with 8MP or higher!, PLEASE NOKIA BLOW OUR MINDS AWAY WITH PRODUCTS IN 2010 GSM CONGRESS
Anonymous, 01 Mar 2009the size of the aperture controlling the light amount entering the image sensor , the image se... more...you are heavily mistaken here. You took a zoom lens and applied the theory to a fixed focal length - TOTALLY different story.
When you zoom in, typically the f-stop increase (don't ask me why, its that nature of zoom lenses). Now a fixed aperture (kind of n86 8MP style) would be excellent. Say the canon 70-200 f/2.8 (Fixed) You can stop it up if you want to, but this takes much more skill than your example
the nokia n86 i dont like the design but i might get use to it and whats with these yellow buttons that colour just fails blue or white is way much better i rather like the white n86 since the bottons or blue i cant wait to c the review on this and nokia wheres the 12 mega pixel ya all r sleeping man