nokia is the best so far!!! but they keep on repeating phones with the same features just camera ajustments and no infrared for all hot phones!!!!!
i dont know what r u all guys wants to prove !!!!
Sometimes i feel like one of u is the owner of nokia and the other of sony and other of samsung !!!!!!
Me myself prefer the nokias design and software friendeness with quality full badget sets others prefer sony aand others samsung ..
what is wrong with that ??????
why all the fuss and fighting !!
iF sony made a good mobile fone i will be glad cause its in my benefits to use it if samsung made a better ok if nokia ok its all to get a good handset with a good price and TRUE spec.
Sometimes i'am sure those three companies are arranging with each other to make people hisitate and so they sell with this or that
And am sure they all got the tech. to make the best tech. BUT IN THE RIGHT TIME
Am sure all of them can make a true digicam within a mobile but waiting for the right time to sell more of old handsets and they win !!
Who belives thats just in 7 or 8 years from the begininng era of fones from the 8210 and 3110 and 6110 and suddenly they discovered bluetooth camera xenon wifi gps ..etc !!!!!!!! they knew all of that at that time but waited to sell and grow and we
WE R STUPID ENOUGH TO BELIVE THEM AND BUY THEIR FONES
every couple of month a company ENVENT a new thing as if it was a noble prize! or a national security stuff !! just in 12 month they jump from 2 to 3 to 5 to 8 to 12 mp isn't there anyone here except me who smell something weird in that !!! why in a specefic time of a year something new comes !!!! why not later or earlier !! Guys they are making planes as Hollywood makes every summer a new movie .. they got the stuff and gradully put it to sell and we buy !!!
OK i know and u know all that in SPECIFICLY next september a new nokia's 8mp with xenon will launch ! and suddenly at christmas (the season of buying!
) suddenly oh my god! the mighty 12mp will come !!! and exactly and specific at feburey a new 15mp will come too !!!!! see i know and we all know that this will happen llllllooooooollll
Why nokia wait till others to launch new phones with new features. Its a habit of nokia or its a problem with nokia? Anyway, for now wait for n86 to arrived then we'll know, what nokia did different this time, apart from upgrading the camera.
Anonymous, 27 Feb 2009this post been deleted by gsmarena already 2X
this is just about the size of 12MP not the q... morehow many times should I tell you "READ THE WHOLE POST"
is has a better image quality because of the EXMOR
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970this post been deleted by gsmarena already 2X
this is just about the size of 12MP not the quality
if 12MP can rec HD,
what about those HD camcorder ?? just got 3.31MP
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970yes we will
idou is a concept phone and still in development
nokia has a lot of concept phone but their not as desperate as SE who create far pitch buzz because their losing market share
n86 is for real will be available within 3 months
Anonymous, 26 Feb 2009N86 can control the light amount entering the image sensor
other worldwide camera phone with ... morein recent years, the convenience offered by cameras in mobile phones has driven an increase in their use, while demand for higher image quality has also continued to grow. In addition, as mobile phone designs have become more refined, and models become smaller and thinner, the need for further miniaturization in mobile phone camera technology has also increased. To meet these requirements, improvements in both image quality and sensor miniaturization must be achieved, but the more the shrinking process is continued, the more difficult it becomes to gather light into the sensor pixels, leading to the risk of image degradation resulting from reduced sensitivity and S/N levels.
The newly developed CMOS image sensor "IMX060PQ" leverages Sony's proprietary formation technology to deliver the industry's smallest unit cell size*1 (1.4µm), and the industry's highest pixel count*1 (12.25 effective megapixel resolution). The implementation of a Cu process that achieves extremely fine interconnections, together with the sensor's unique pixel structure and improvements in condensing efficiency have realized high sensitivity levels and a high S/N ratio, despite the industry's smallest*11.4µm size unit cell. Furthermore, Sony's proprietary "Column-Parallel A/D Conversion technique" minimizes image quality degradation cased by noise that arises during analog processing, while also enabling higher pixel count and frame rates (10 frames/s for "IMX060PQ" and 15frames/s for "IMX046PQ").
By enhancing its "Exmor™" range of CMOS image sensors, used in product lineups such as digital SLR cameras and high definition digital video cameras as well as mobile phones, Sony will aim to meet customer needs for advanced imaging performance comparable to dedicated compact digital still cameras in slimline, camera enabled mobile phones
N86 can control the light amount entering the image sensor
other worldwide camera phone with 2MP/3MP/5MP/8MP/12MP can't do like what N86 can
N86 APerture can change size automatic according to the light at F/2.8,F/3.2,F/4.8
other worldwide camera phone with 2MP/3MP/5MP/8MP/12MP is FIXED AT F/2.8
when taking image in bright light
N86 aperture will change to F/4.8
soon expire idou aperture will not change in bright light cause it is FIXED at F/2.8
when taking image in normal light
N86 aperture will change to F/3.2
soon expire idou aperture will not change in normal light cause it is FIXED at F/2.8
this technology is come from digital camera
Frustrated with Noki, 26 Feb 2009Why, why, why, whY, wHY, WHY, WHY does Nokia insist on repeatedly putting such enormous focus ... moreBy the way, for the record, I have a black Nokia N82 and I love it, except for that one gripe (and the batter could and should be much better).
Why, why, why, whY, wHY, WHY, WHY does Nokia insist on repeatedly putting such enormous focus area in its phone cameras???? On so many occasions have the subjects of my photos come out blurred while the background has come out very sharp. I mean, other manufacturers manage to make cameras with smaller focus areas...
Just before i go get some headache pills,,the score of this fone is low ive just noticed is that from other partys doing the usual battles between companys or is it loyal nokia customers like me annoyed at what they are coming out with????
Still got my xperia to sell yet and maybe innov8,, but,, innov8 is top notch but is lacking the nokia comfortableness i become used to..Their is still that lack of buzz i used to get in the past about buying a new smartfone. It could be down to lack of clamshell smarfones maybe or its the colour of them and shape,,they are all just mono blocks in silver or black there is no shaping like 6630 for example or yellow/blue/red colours,,we need a shake up of design/colour and trusty software out of the box.Thanx if you read this..
Farrokh, 26 Feb 2009if u are so much into cameras, ud better get a digicam what the heck do u see in this fat-axx... moreI have said that for ages about names,,annonymous is useless at least put a letter or a number just anything to distinguish your comment..
if u are so much into cameras, ud better get a digicam what the heck do u see in this fat-axx ugly fone
innovo or idou might be better than this BUT if u want an all-in-all perfect fone then that is nothing but LG's ARENA.
and anyway if u post yr opinion, make yourself a name so that u cud get YOUR answer back u anonymous brainhead
hi,,i have been reading nokia forums for 4 hrs or more today and some of the complaints in their are awful..I have just ordered n85 and hope its ok..
This nokia problem has been around since the 95-1 for me with nokia still using the public for testing purposes..These forums say post your opinion which i am but still buy nokia products but n85 is my last..If you had just bought a tele today and it would not switch channels or the back fell off it you would be straight back for refund/replacement and that goes for hairdryes,,kettles fridges ,i-pods,hi-fi system,,gps reciver,,dvd recorder and on and on..I trust nokia know what they are doing but i myself plus others get fones which are half finished in construction or software untested..People seem to give nokia one last chance before moving to another firm ,,i have been to most of them,,but nokia are no1 but they cannot keep that record with shoddy products at veryy,,very high prices..
Zzzz, 26 Feb 2009Is that the best Nokia can do, just changing the camera of an underpowered N85 ? Samsung must ... moreWhy people spend more money to buy Nokia? because it's reliable and has much more compatibility and ofcourse for it's worldclass standard and platdform.
My experience is," don't buy a nokia phone at nokiausa.com." they will ship to you a use phone while u pay for the new phone. they won't let you exchange or return the phone.
Is this device going to support hardware rendering - ala N95? Or will it be like the N96 and be Software only?
What is this rubbish about the third generation dual LED of the N86 8MP being brighter than Xenon? Look! you guys should get the terminology right. Taking a good photo in the dark or dim light is all about high INTENSITY light in a short period of time (microseconds). No way between here and the planet Mars can third generation dual LED match Xenon or even come close. We are talking intensity ie the power (watts) produced by Xenon flash. It is phenomenal.
This phone needs Xenon flash and cannot be considered as a competitor to a digicam without it. You can debate apertures from sunup to sundown but a camera without Xenon is like food without water!
for the moment, this phone has an edge over n97 for my next upgrade, lets see who wins in the end..
a classic battle..