Maemo 5 is a modified version of the Debian Linux distribution, slimmed down for mobile devices which uses an X Window System-based graphical user interface.
Using Xomap and the Matchbox window manager; the GUI uses the GTK+ toolkit and Hildon user interface widgets and API.
Maemo 6 Harmattan isn't using Hildon User Interface + the GTK+ toolkit, instead using full Qt toolkit & libraries.
So the Nokia N9 is only running essentially a newer version of Maemo called Maemo 6 codenamed Harmattan. It is only a transition towards MeeGo. The N9 is not running a full version of MeeGo.
Maemo 6 harmattan the newest & latest & last OS with Qt should pave the way to new OS's... according to some sources Nokia may be working on a New OS that may or may not be MeeGo. It will be Qt based.
That makes sense as Nokia's devices throughout the ecosystem are building with Qt development framework so all apps will seamlessly run across multiple platforms.
Don't forget it is not Pure MeeGo. Harmattan has in it's genes more in common with Maemo.
The N9 is already dead before it even arrives.
Nokia should have prioritize MeeGo over WP7.
AnonD-7829, 26 Jun 2011I'm not sure what are people saying with "It's not Meego, it's Harmattan". It's Meeg... moreHarmattan is/was developed solely by nokia based on maemo 6. Its not meego but they use simillar api's so apps should run across both.
I'm not saying nokia intends to rename the platform, i'm saying they're starting with something else from scratch.
“... It has many UX, design and material innovations that we are going to
use and expand upon in forthcoming devices. I cannot tell you about them
more clearly yet, but you’ll see soon (what I mean).”
There is alot of information in that Elop quote. Especially when we run it parrallel with what we already know to be facts.
He is clearly stating that nokia intend to continue with the UI introduced in the n9 but on a different platform of which he can't speak about. What platform is that?
Mark, 26 Jun 2011You are mad. The SG2 interface looks like a big pile of steaming dung compared to the N9. Plea... moreThe user interface on S2 can easily be changed by the user, soon there probably will be a user interface on the Android Market that looks and feels just like the one on N9. Swyping to move to the homescreen in any game/app will be a problem because a swype withing a game/app can move the user to the homescreen without he/she wanting to. It is better to have a hardware button/key to press to move to the homescreen from within any app/game, and it is better to unlock the screen with a hardware key because if it is activated using gestures then it need to be constantly "on", draining battery, and if you have it in your pants pocket it will activate waiting for that second tap because even capacitive screens activate through thin pants, just place your finger behind your t-shirt and then touch the screen on your N8...
N9 will not have Android Market so you will not be able to easily use Android apps on N9.
AnonD-7829, 26 Jun 2011I'm not sure what are people saying with "It's not Meego, it's Harmattan". It's Meeg... moreit is over all meego. it supports meegp apps. so? meego is a combination of maemo 5 and moblin.
AnonD-1124, 26 Jun 2011the n9 doesn't run meego. It runs harmmattan which is nokia own
project. The ui on this devic... moreI'm not sure what are people saying with "It's not Meego, it's Harmattan". It's Meego 1.2, codename Harmattan, much like newest Android is Gingerbread or something.
It's a Meego, either way.
EDIT: Ok, well I did some googling. Seems that Harmattan is somehow at the same time Maemo 6, MeeGo, but then it's still neither and is not MeeGo but still somehow is Meego. Confusing.
Either way, I'm pretty sure when Nokia says that this will be the last Meego device (notice how they say last Meego, means this is Meego :D), I doubt it means that "we just call it Harmattan from now on" :D
Cos if that would be the case, I'm pretty sure they would say it, cos obviously a crapton of people are thrilled about the OS.
Looks pretty good from the demos we've seen so far. Don't know if I would get one though. I really need a hardware qwerty keyboard, and the fact that Nokia's dedication to developing Meego is a bit disheartening. But that UI looks really, really good, and the swipe gestures seem to work amazingly. But it's nice to see that Nokia definitely do still have the ability to produce innovative products...
Toss, 26 Jun 2011After reading most of d comments wat i've observed is all nokia fans who wants 2 buy dis phone... moreYou are mad. The SG2 interface looks like a big pile of steaming dung compared to the N9. Please everyone, just test the device yourself and you will see.
Sails, 26 Jun 2011Actually there are quite a few Samsung fans that all day long vote other phones down and give ... moreYou are so right. This site is plagued by Samsung boys that are paid to upvote and downvote. Daily interest tells the real story!
the n9 doesn't run meego. It runs harmmattan which is nokia own
project. The ui on this device is nokias proprietory software and not
The reasons for the positive response the n9 got were
Like i said earlier, regarding the ui, its not meego.
“It has many UX, design and material innovations that we are going to
use and expand upon in forthcoming devices. I cannot tell you about them
more clearly yet, but you’ll see soon (what I mean).” -Elop
is elop telling you in plain english that nokia would continue/improve
this ui in forthcoming devices. Heck they made a video to show of the ui
plus a manual on how to go around it. Do you think they did that just
for the n9?
Here are the facts.
1 Nokia intends to continue with the ui on future devices.
2 Nokia intends to continue with Qt.
3 WP does not, can not and will never support Qt
4 Nokia is discontinuing meego.
Do the math. Nokia is developing a new os with Qt at heart and a similar ui to that shown on the n9.
speaking today at work with people who not interested in mobiles really like the magenta version..It does not matter what sytem i said it was running its gobbl-de-gook to them,as long as it does the basics thats all that mattered..
i think the magenta version will run out of stock quick..
AnonD-12071, 26 Jun 2011they r using this phone as their ace to test MeeGo on the market but what if they failed to a... moreI dont know how much you know about computing but this thing is stonking and powerfull and slick..A heck of a lot of people want this device,a hell of a lot of people..
Keep both MeegGo and Windows Phone 7 devices. If Nokia don't keep MeeGo for future, then consumers will not buy Nokia N9.
AnonD-11312, 26 Jun 2011Nokia's Stephen Elop is still over MeeGo, even if the N9 is a hit. An awful lot has been happ... moreabandoning meego doesn't make meego a dead platform. Elop announced in nokia connection that Qt will lives on next billion S40 devices and qt is an ecosystem. so that means meego has an ecosystem and it has a great support in future. note that qt is a sdk tool, to write the code once and deploy the software to different platform.meego is qt.
they r using this phone as their ace to test MeeGo on the market
but what if they failed to attract people?
so many powerful competitive OS to be deal with
and even Android's Ice cream update is coming
dont test ur luck Nokia
being ego on not using Android will soon have effect on u
symbian dont even stand a chance with iOS or BB OS let alone androids
we'll see how far can they go on N9
Nokia's Stephen Elop is still over MeeGo, even if the N9 is a hit.
An awful lot has been happening in Nokialand over the past week. A few days ago, we spent our first real quality moments with the much discussed N9, and we were pretty blown away by the MeeGo smartphone. Fast forward a mere two days, and we catch wind of a pretty suspicious looking leak of "Sea Ray," the company's first Windows Phone handset where else but sitting firmly in the hand of CEO Stephen Elop. Just in case that brand of corporate subtlety didn't quite drive the point home, the executive gave an interview with Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat this week, confirming the nearly universal suspicion that it will abandon the Linux-based OS. Elop told the paper that, even if the N9 proves a massive hit, Nokia is going to turn its attention to other, more Windows Mobiley things.