to skater 42,, think i remember you from gx30 debate on bluetooth etc.having trouble with moto mpx 220 & have put a mssge on that site if you can help thanx.soorry to use this topic on wrong forum but where all in dilemas arent we!!!
My dear dj_ashtray, you may be right about Nokia in Europe. But my dear European friend, Asia has by far the most phones when it comes to the latest models, and one reason why the latest models appear in Asia first. Europeans are stingy, as I have many European friends and U wont believe the phones they carry, ancient is a mild word. Nokia's and most other phones makers , have developed phones with an eye on what Asians want. Be real .
Hey one question is there such a function in N90 that can take a photo and focus on a specific object and blurified the background? Wat is the name of this function?
i hav had the n90 4 a long tyme now it is da bestbut i have 2many fones 2 use now cus i hav loads
hopefully the phone is out 27th please has anyone got the offical date for it in england i keep calling carphonewarehouse they keep saying nokia is not very good with dates we will call you plz someone wats the offical date for england
Whats this no vibration rubbish all about, you can't have a phone nowadays without a vibration, i was looking forward to getting this phone til i read that, really disappointed.
On the 3g.co.uk forums it says UK release is August 27th. Apparently interest is high, so you are unlikely to get on of the first few batches.
Lucky I got till mid october to decide the phone i want
yes, I do know what "marketing" and "availability" mean....
I'm a marketing & communications manager ;)
LOL @ unknown
My dear unknown,
first of all, I'm German. I've lived in the US for two years and now live in Australia. I grew up with Nokia but am by NO MEANS a FAN of Nokia. I'm just stating the obvious in my previous messages.
I own a Sharp V802 which beats Motorola & LG by miles, but Nokia has always been successful in the European market because IT WAS the pioneer of mobile communications. Up until 2002 I think that Nokia, Siemens and Ericsson were about the only phones Europeans would own.
As I said, America is different. Due to CDMA & iDen which Nokia hasn't participated in until recently, different brands have taken preference. It's logical, Nokia IS a GSM focused brand and the few CDMA handsets they have don't compare.
The N90 does put up a new benchmark for other brands. The only other brands that can compete are SE & Sharp so far. I believe that competition is now more difficult than ever for Nokia. Other brands bring out better built phones for a better price. Seriously, who wants a 8800 for a flippin $AU1200???
The main argument my dad always had was this: "I like the way Nokia works, it's intuitive and simple to use."
Now most of their high-tech phones have symbian OS which really defeats this argument, and the few low-end phones, well.... for people who just want a phone they'll do.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like Nokia handsets, I'm a Sharp fan and love my flip-phones. But no doubt Nokia has been one of the most successful producers so far, also in the US.
no matter how much you hate Nokia, there are just simple truth's to it.
Oh my dear skater42, it seems like you think Nokia controls the whole communications. I'm sorry but You're wrong, this N90 is the same sh*t that last Nokia GSM Models, and I totally disagree with you About Nokia is the Gsm Master, and "pioneer". Perhaps Nokia be the world's most selled brand, but let's remember that Europe is the biggest buyer in the world when we talk about cellphones. But Why Nokia sells a lot and Why europe is inside this discussion? I don't know where you live but if you could go to Europe or if you've gone; You will see in every single corner Nokia Ads, and Nokia Dealers, and Nokia cellphones are cheap and accessible for all ages, even a child carries a Nokia Cellphone (i hope you've heard sometime the word "marketin'" and "availability", if you know them youŽll understand). Exactly I don't know why Mot,SE and other brands don't make an exhaustive sellin' campaign in Europe, but I can tell Nokia is a very good marketing agent.
Don't Cheat ourselves. Have You seen this cellphone specs? i Know **w0w** the only things that lacks inside is a Coffe-Maker, but have you realize about its sizes and weight... I guess my laptop is Lighter. Besides I don't wanna imagine the cost of this huge piece of bad-made plastic. Skater have you checked out who sells more cellar phones in North America where the Market is a little more "fair"? Pleez check it out, after, take out of your mind that Nokia Fantasy and finally i could suggest you a Good Moto/SE Phone. Accept it, this cell Phone it's one of the biggest crap made by Nokia and Believe it's difficult to choose beetwen all the models.
SE vs. Nokia
My view on this, for the American market, is that Nokia again established itself way before SE did. Sony Ericsson as a brand did not even exist until a 3 or 4 years back. Ericsson was never popular.
Nokia is a GSM specialist, and with the few networks and special bandwith's (850 & 1900) I think that Nokia had found a new market. Tri- and Quadbands were born.
LG, Samsung & Motorola: Compared to Nokia these brands produce CDMA and iDEN models. Both networks are much more common in the states than GSM is. I think that's another reason why they are more widely used, correct me if I'm wrong.
Nokia isn't necessarily "slow" in developing the technology, with their profile and tech departments I think they catch on fairly quickly.
If you have a look at the typical NOKIA market you will find that the European Market has very different preferences and priorities to the Asian or American.
Japan & Korea brought out their first 3G CDMA network in 2000 & 2001 which was due to local developments which Nokia wasn't able to participate in due to incompatible infrastructure in Europe. We didn't and don't have CDMA2000/ 1xRTT/ EV-DO and the WCDMA market was first publicly released in 2003/2004.
People in Europe didn't require any high-tech phones due to missing infrastructure, and the Americans were similar. 3G in Korea & Japan opened a new world for new requirements (better cameras, screens for video talk etc.) which drove the development for the new Generation phones.
Now that we're all getting on one level with 3G, and T-Online trialing the HSDPA in Germany, I also believe Nokia will catch up with new technology fairly quickly. Vodafone is on top of that a big connector between East & West, importing successful Toshiba & Sharp models to Europe.
Brand loyalty also kept Nokia from going too fast on 65/262k screens etc. People love Nokia because it's the "pioneer" in Europe and had established itself fairly well.
No matter how "tech" the competitors were, people were just too plain lazy to try anything new.
Again, with our existing 2G/2.5 G back then no one used a phone for more than a call or SMS. Now, with better cameras & networks this is changing.
Ellendil i think u should know ur facts before saying something. The only reason Nokia sells more is becuase in U.S. where i live SE doesnt ahve a big market. Samsung, Nokia, LG and Motorola control most of the market. Only couple SE phones can be found by any carrier. U.S. is filled with consumers that is why SE should market their phones in U.S. more.
This is funny this discussion of funboys which phons are better Ericsson or Nokia - the discussion with no real arguments and/or denying obvious truths.
It seems that the ultimate judgement coms from the market - Nokia sells 4-5 times more phones than Ericsson and its market share is growing, unlike Ericsson.
Nokia N90 is really revolution. The best display I ever seen, best video, good foto and big, comfortable keyboard.
SE k750 is just like Sony Cyber-shot with the phone function...
I have to admit the guy below me has some good points about SE. Nokia is slow in everything. Most of their phones were running on 4096 color when most SE Phones were running on 65k color. And then eventually Nokia caught on. But Nokia takes time to come out with technology. Till then everyone has a similar phone from som other company. Another thing is Nokia makes some really crappy looking phones and overprices them. Some phones look good though. But still only a dumb person would spend crap load of money to buy a ugly phone.
@Sonners u really never ever tried using S.E phone before~!!! when k700i came out it already beat most of e phone in e market. it has everything from bluetooth to mp4 video etc... everything is easy to manage on SE phones. processor is second to none~~~~~!!!!!!! reliable, improvement over screen n sound. look at nokia, takes time to load a file, improve slowly in everything, come out with so many crap phone, screen n sound still not much improvement only recently. files/apps r not easy to delete cause it's store inside file manager, cause it'll confuse ppl where e actual file/s r store. hang so many time. y r they call smartphones in e first place???
haha it is funny how soo many people are trying to defend for the N90- THE BRICK. I dont hate the phone but seriously the size will make my pants drop from one side. I think people should wait for the other N-series phones. I want to get the N91. That baby looks good but in the U.S. there is no 3G so that function is a waste. Anyway my point is this phone is not worth $1100 maybe a around $600-750 but definetly not $1100. Haahah that is a laptop. Wouldi rather buy a laptop or the N90. HMMMMMM tough decision.