Alex, 01 Nov 2008DANIEL, you are right!!! Maybe N96 is nothing to write home about, but it is a good phone and ... moreIf you disable 3G, the TV doesn't work (not that it does anyway without network support), video calls don't work , youtube won't work, the net will be too slow, email will be slow among other things.
All in all a pretty pointless exercise but yes you are right the battery will last longer.
DANIEL, you are right!!! Maybe N96 is nothing to write home about, but it is a good phone and if one knows how to use it all is ok. For instance, I upgraded the software over the air and things DID improve!!! Better and quicker camera, improved battery life (3 days - 3G disabled). PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THEIR PHONE AND HOW TO USE IT, AND THEN TALK...
Anonymous, 01 Nov 2008In the n96, n85, n82, n79 forums, there is some dude who is always posting results of benchmar... more5800 has a very weak specifications. that is why it is considered midrange device and priced so low despite its touchscreen functionality. on the other hand, i cant see anything expensive about n96. it has the 3 year old processor of n92, downgraded camera and same battery of n95, same dvb-h chip of n77 and other old hardware. the new things that were put into it must be the software and the 16gb flash disk manufactured by samsung, nothing else. n96 is unjustly priced. i think it should cost less than n95 8gb becos it seems that n95 8gb has newer hardware compared to this.
Anonymous, 01 Nov 2008You want to see bashing, go check out the iPhone or any non-Nokia that is perceived to be a th... moreIn the n96, n85, n82, n79 forums, there is some dude who is always posting results of benchmark tests of samsung i8510. Whats worse is that he seems to do it every week. Or the dude who is a few posts below who said 'another childish nokia phone'. Thats just plain silly.
Yes, there are those nokia fanboys who go to other forums and simply bash the other manufacturers solution saying things like 'this phone sucks, nokia rocks' or 'what a waste' or 'Worst decision i have ever made-im sticking with my nokia'. That is simply senseless and disrespectful.
I agree that the voting process is really messed up these days and very few phones actually get evaluated properly. Those that gain the most attention like iphone are the rather unlucky due to their controversial nature. The phones which no one seems to notice seem evaluated better.
I guess the 5800xm is showing just how much people want a symbian touchscreen phone. Its quite shocking to see how popular its become (More than 8500 votes in a month). Personally, apart from the lack of a lens cover, i dont see anything wrong with it, at least according to the reviews and videos. It has received its fair share of bashing with statements like 'iphone copy' or 'its a test dummy-wait for the n-series version'. But i have to admit that the bashing there isnt as much as the n96 forum or other phone forums.
Im just encouraging guys to post useful statements. No bashing of any phone or manufacturer.
I don't know what peoples problem is. It is a good phone. It is very loud, clear, good resolution and graphics, great media playing centre, very quick GPS...... - Ok it is not a huge upgrade from the n95i, but who cares, it is still the flagship of the nokia fleet!
Anonymous, 01 Nov 2008n96 is a phone that everyone loves to talk but only few will actually buy. u know why people d... morei dont think so!
hav u seen how innov8 bash her with envy, there like nuts, so desperate to gain attention
the buttom line is, why are they coming here to bash, to seek attention because they envy n96's attention big time
innov8 page is lucky because only owners visit that page and talk about it, nobody seem to care about that page except the owners
n96 is flooded with envious innov8 fanboys who cant accept the fact that their phone failed to get attention and failed to sell more than n96.
envy is the very reason
Another childish phone from Nokia. I'll buy one for my 12 yr old kid to start playing with electronics
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970n96 is a phone that everyone loves to talk but only few will actually buy. u know why people discuss about n96 here in this page? becos its n96. and not becos it has 5mp camera, nor, 16gb, nor dvb-h. people talk about this phone becos it carries the flagship title of nseries. innov8 doesnt need to be advertised here. look at the innov8 page. there seems to be more innov8 users here in gsmarena than n96 users.
I saw the samsung i900 an the innovo8. There are good phones too. They batery life is better. But the N96 wins on aplications and operating speeds. It`s also smaller and the display quality looks better. If you are not a specialized photographer, you won`t notice the difference between 5 and 8 mpx. N96 Start up faster. the sound quality its better too.
Another thing. The phone also displays all the music contain on the ringtones list. All mixed, but sorted alphabetically. So, here comes again. If you have a lot of music files, and you whant to select a native ringtone, you`ll find yourselves searching again, in an endless list. These comments I`ve maded are minor ussues. Im still recommend the phone.
Anonymous, 31 Oct 2008Yes, the open symbian project is an open source thing, however, it is nokia that will be spear... moreamen to that dude!
innov8 fanboys come here to bash and advertise n96 because only a few people care to visit there page
it sounds desperate to me, and innov8 fanboys couldnt believe that n96 gains a lot of attention than innov8 even thou they believe innov8 is superior than n96
so, whats the mystery in all this? that for the samsung fanboys have to find out
sorry for my english. The music player should include an option who allow you to make a play list directly from a folder. otherwise, in the normal way, you`ll have to navigate and select one by one the music files you whant to include on the play list. If you have hundreds of files, it turns booring.
Another uncomfortable issue it´s the fact that the music player displays on the main list, ALL the media files on the memory, include ringotes and videos, even if you stored them on the specifics folders.So if you whant to do a play list, you`re force to navigate all the media content again, in order to exclude those files.
I had one yesterday. USB trasfer speed surprised me. wlan too. The phone feels solid and it look`s good. It`s a little heavy, but the handling experience it`s better than the n95. I miss the native 3d accelerator. The battery lacks feels only on hard multimedia use (video). The two leds flash it`s almost good as on sony`s K series, but the quality perception on the photos it`s better. There is no need to increase the ringtone volumme to the top, You`ll hear it everywhere. Recommended.
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970You want to see bashing, go check out the iPhone or any non-Nokia that is perceived to be a threat to the Nokia fan-bois..
The voting system is ridiculously skewed.
e.g. How can people vote on the performance of a phone which hasn't been released (5800)?.
Anonymous, 31 Oct 2008Yes, the open symbian project is an open source thing, however, it is nokia that will be spear... moreThis is the phone that Nokia markets as it's flagship multi-media device, as such shouldn't it be open to discussion regarding comparing it with what else is currently available.
Including the N95 8GB, which it's replacing.
Has it advanced enough or do Nokia need a bit of prodding to come up with a better effort?
Yes, the open symbian project is an open source thing, however, it is nokia that will be spearheading it. Thats why they have invested so much into buying the rest of the symbian shares.
Anyway, this isnt the place to advertise the innov8. I thought this forum was for discussing the n96 and how to help those who need help. Instead there's war from those who prefer other solutions. I think it would be best for others to stick to their own forums.
Anonymous, 31 Oct 2008Nokia plans to have all symbian shares by the end of the year. There's even an article of sams... moreI suggest you look into the Open Symbian project.
My comments were more directed at those who go on about Samsung taking Nokia's OS (i.e. Symbian).
I dumped my N82 for an iPhone and couldn't be happier, now it's a paperweight or my kid's play with it.
Actually, INNOV8 is the worthy upgrade from N95. Much more worthy than N96. If you want to experience true high end features, get the Innov8. Because there is no real difference between N95 and N96 only 16gb memory. N96 is overpriced. Innov8 is justly priced for its high end features, 8mp camera w/ autofocus & lens cover, VGA video @30fps, QVGA video @120fps, USB charging, 2.8" display, Symbian 9.3 S60 3rd FP2, 3.5mm jack, stereo speakers, DNse 2.0 surround sound, GPS, WIFI, HSDPA, 128MB SDRAM, 16GB internal memory, 450Mhz processor, 3d graphics accelerator, optical mouse. Innov8 has more and better things to offer than N96. So N96 is the one which is pointless here.
To the person who said that there is no need to upgrade to 8mp if you already have 5mp, well that's a matter of personal choice. I guess N82 will be ur phone forever. There are even a lot of people here upgrading from 5mp camera phone to another 5mp camera phone like those N95 users shifting to N96 or N85. And what do they'll get? Nothing much but 16gb, dvb-h or oled display. There are even people who want to upgrade from 5mp to 3.2mp phone like those N95 to 5800 only for touchscreen. But the most worthy upgrade of all is 5mp to 8mp, like from N95 or N82 to INNOV8 since there really are upgrades that take place here and the things I've mentioned above are just some of them. Nokia will release their 8MP camera phone and a lot of people will surely upgrade their phones to that, but that will still be next year. While Innov8 is already right here, right now. It's the most complete S60 smartphone right now.