lalo, 08 May 2009yea, that's true, since Omnia HD has HW acceleration and a faster processor, but why would any... moreDude look how slow vista is cause iit has too much garbage on it and need higher CPU speeds just to handle it i know samsung is gonna raise the price for sure inless Omnia HD is made out or really cheap peices that we don't know about expect for the CPU lol
Anonymous, 08 May 2009Actually my point was that the S60 on the Samsung Omnia HD can be modified to work exactly the... moreSymbian is still signed under nokia and LG,Samsung are the only ones that have some partenership of s60
lalo, 08 May 2009don't know about them adding kinetic scrolling in the entire ui. nokia is lazy in doing stuff.... moreNever know about the kinetics in all of the OS but the brower i know lol but it did get alot better cause i have the old browser since i have an E70 and the browser sucks so i just use opera mini 4.2 which is faster and the D/Ling is much faster as welll
Anonymous, 08 May 2009Actually my point was that the S60 on the Samsung Omnia HD can be modified to work exactly the... moreyea, that's true, since Omnia HD has HW acceleration and a faster processor, but why would anyone put something less good to a better device, right? Yea, Nokia doesn't know how to properly use the symbian os with the useless hardware, that sucks for them. i'm glad that samsung is showing the true capabilities of s60 (5th ed). nokia needs to learn from others in terms of hardware usage, and os tweaking.
lalo, 08 May 2009ummm, i think you are getting confused. don't put symbian and nokia together. symbian is the o... moreActually my point was that the S60 on the Samsung Omnia HD can be modified to work exactly the same as the N97, with the same transitions, kinetic scrolling etc, only it will be faster due to the faster, more efficient CPU.
Anything that is supposed to slow down the Omnia HD can be swiched off or modified UNLESS Nokia locks down Symbian, which they can't do as it's now open source.
Obviously they can't so any argument that the Omnia HD is slower because of the way S60 has been implemented is useless.
Someone shut him up.. lol!!! killersmith just got buried, not just once but couple times....lol, so true Kurt!!
> In reply to Killersmith @ 2009-05-05 22:20 from P$0W
You call these facts? lol your a joke
Fact1: Symbian has about 100 customisable components which makes it the most flexible software..
NOT TRUE DO SOME REAL RESEARCH Lil boy
Fact2: Symbian is in the business for 10years more than windows. Windows has just(2years or so) entered mobile world which is different from pc's..
NOT TRUE.. Windows Mobile entered in 2000 Lil boy
Fact3: symbian has support for office documents(word, excel, pdf, powerpoint) even editing.(free for e-series and charged for others) as opposed to wht your friend said...
TRUE AGREED... For most u got to pay for it!!!
Fact4: 80% people prefer symbian over other mobile os's for the ease of MULTITASKING and user friendlyness.
NOT SO TRUE, Symbian does have a high number of customers but 80%...lol, i see u like to make your own statistics a bit higher than it should lol
So, the guy has point when he says that winmo is for proffesionals and symbian is for kids?????
WELL...NOT REALLY, he went too far with that one...
Ok i'll give you one more chance...tell me a few things that ur winmo can do but symbian cant. (please dnt be foolish enough to mention applications).
APPLICATIONS u right, .... LOL, WinMo can even mimick a Symbian OS or IPhone
Mizuchi, 08 May 20091 month left man they can easily add kinetic scrolling apart of the intire OS the one still i... moredon't know about them adding kinetic scrolling in the entire ui. nokia is lazy in doing stuff. they haven't even polished their browser, which sucks imo, so who knows. i just know that this phone is disappointing, then again, it is supposed to be an internet device, and not a media device. i'll just wait until symbian foundation brings out symbian^3 so that phone manufacturers can make phones with that os.
Anonymous, 08 May 2009I've been reading the GSM arena spec sheets.
N97 850/1900/2100 American version 3.6MBs HSDP... moreLol i know i know they run on the same network bands lol
but speed wise less garbage means it's gonna be faster more stuff means higheer CPU speed to run everything nokia is using wigets instead of apps for their N97 so it take so little space you don't have tou instal a widget cause it's a link to a modified internet page or an app
Mizuchi, 08 May 2009Iphone doesn't even support 3.5g XD man were have you been remember the extra stuff samsung... moreSamsung probably make the 32GB memory modules for Nokia, the only reason they didn't bother putting it in because it's for show rather than go.
Anonymous, 08 May 2009I've been reading the GSM arena spec sheets. N97 850/1900/2100 American version 3.6MBs HSDP... moreyup, agree with you, since no carrier in the US gives more than 3.5G (3.6mbs), so having a phone with 7.2mbs is useless here lol
lalo, 08 May 2009actually, there's only kinetic scrolling in the browser, and no where else. if it did have kin... more1 month left man they can easily add kinetic scrolling apart of the intire OS the one still in the vids are the prototype and it's getting faster and better every video so it might be as slow as everyone thinks it is lol
Mizuchi, 08 May 2009Iphone doesn't even support 3.5g XD man were have you been
remember the extra stuff samsung... moreI've been reading the GSM arena spec sheets.
N97 850/1900/2100 American version 3.6MBs HSDPA
iPhone 3G 850/1900/2100 3.6MBs HSDPA
That's where I've been.
Anonymous, 08 May 2009Hey the NAM is exactly the same HSDPA bands as the 3.5G iPhone 3G, same speed, better than the... moreummm, i think you are getting confused. don't put symbian and nokia together. symbian is the operating system, while nokia is the phone manufacturer. now that symbian is open source, it'll grow. wait and see until symbian^3 comes out. until then, don't buy a nokia device. they just keep on bringing old stuff out.
Mizuchi, 08 May 2009Your agreeing that the s60 5th need a high powered CPU to run ? And the 5800 is too slow XD c... moreso you're saying that windows mobile doesn't need a nice gui because it'll lag? that's like saying who needs windows xp when you can have windows 95??!!
Mizuchi, 08 May 2009The newer prototype is much faster and it has kinetic scrolling actually, there's only kinetic scrolling in the browser, and no where else. if it did have kinetic scrolling, then the people wouldn't have to scroll using the scrollbar
Anonymous, 08 May 2009Hey the NAM is exactly the same HSDPA bands as the 3.5G iPhone 3G, same speed, better than the... moreIphone doesn't even support 3.5g XD man were have you been
remember the extra stuff samsung but on the all their touchscreen phones
touchWiz or touchFlow one of them and the 3D graphics need a stronger CPU to power the 3D trasitioning, support the HD and keep the camera intact
if you noticed the Omina HD doesnt have 32Gb like N97 does cause the CPU is more devoted to HD recording and the graphical transitons for the phone
Mizuchi, 08 May 2009I'll let you know how the phone is
after i get the NAM lol
underpowered or overclocked i... moreHey the NAM is exactly the same HSDPA bands as the 3.5G iPhone 3G, same speed, better than the 5800, not as fast as the Omnia HD or LG Arena.
With the Samsung Omnia HD with S60 you'd be able to make exactly the same modifications as on the N97 only it will run much faster, or is Symbian becoming a closed system to protect the money Nokia want to make from OVI.
It will be interesting to see how Nokia goes about locking down their content, if developers can't make money out of it, OVI store will fail.
Maybe it will be like the Nokia music store where you can't use the songs as ringtones or share them by Bluetooth.
Anonymous, 08 May 2009im a big nokia fan but for the first time i have to finally agree with all the hatersYour agreeing that the s60 5th need a high powered CPU to run ? And the 5800 is too slow XD come on man did you see the amount of garbage cluttered on the Omnina HD the3D effects for the screen transitions Lag so bad man
the 5800 and N97 don't have any laggy screen transioning
if you look at the ipods new coverflow that lags and it's not even needed on an mp3 player it's just to look cool so adding useless stuff mean higher CPU speed