Anonymous, 17 Dec 2008yea, u r rite that it doesn't make sense for some people to turn down this phone for megapixel... moreTotally agree that Nokia (or any brand for that matter -- don't confuse me with a desperate Nokia fan) has to play on many fronts. And if i look at that also, this model is one of the best scoring(for now); and yes, agree, by the time it hits the shelves, who knows what surprises we get (which is only better for us).
But there are specs that really weigh more.
I used touchscreens for ages - gotta love it.
Using the BB Bold now - gotta love how quickly i type on the qwerty keybord.
And this phone has the combination, besides other specs like Flash support.
And to take those kind of pictures, you really need a good camera with good lenses. It was definitely not taken from a 0.8mp camera. But it is a 0.8mp picture (my post was removed though).
ayava, 17 Dec 2008Never meant to insinuate that a 8mp optipcs would be worse.
All i meant to say is that 5mp vs... moreyea, u r rite that it doesn't make sense for some people to turn down this phone for megapixel count alone.
But it does make sense to some other people. Its all about "everyone have their own preferences".
But most importantly is, how can this phone out perform other phone in 2009 Q2? Cause by then other phone manufacturer might have come out with higher megapixel camera phone with same or better specs and design. 6 months is a really long time. LG, Samsung, SE, HTC, Apple...etc are capable of surprising us with their product in 6 months time.
btw, can tell us what's the model of that 0.8mp camera that u used to took all those nice photos?
The purpose im asking u for this is to prove that im not a lousy photo shooter... because i tried very hard but cannot get this kind of result with my 3.2mp N73 camera. weird...
Anonymous, 17 Dec 2008Wow.. the photo quality is really amazing!
But how can u prove that those photos are taking f... moreThe purpose of sharing these pics was to just show how sharp a less than 1mp picture can be (and create this reaction) -- and how 5mp or 8mp, or 250mp will not make the difference, unless you want to make a big poster to cover your whole house.
Anyway, no more posts on this topic from me...
Anonymous, 17 Dec 2008Don't forget that Nokia is the first mobile manufacturer to come out with 5 megapixel camera p... moreNever meant to insinuate that a 8mp optipcs would be worse.
All i meant to say is that 5mp vs 8mp topic is quite irrelevant at this stage.
And even more irrelevant is someone turning down a good phone considering this aspect.
ayava, 17 Dec 2008...forgot to mention: this one was 0.8 megapixels...Wow.. the photo quality is really amazing!
But how can u prove that those photos are taking from a 0.8mp camera?
Can share which camera u used?
What method and all the steps u take to shoot these photos?
I will go look for the camera at my friend's shop and do a testing myself.
Again, thanks for sharing the photos.. they really are amazing! :)
ayava, 17 Dec 2008Still on the "megapixels" topic:
I propose a test...
Check this picture:
http://www.bir... moreDon't forget that Nokia is the first mobile manufacturer to come out with 5 megapixel camera phone.
What was their objective then if megapixel does not affect the image quality?
Maybe 1 megapixel different won't have much differences.
But we are talking about 3 megapixel here.
And how u know the sensors and optics used by the current 8mp phone is not as good?
So given same sensors and optics specs with higher megapixel, the higher megapix camera should perform better rite?
maybe shooting photo of big object like human and landscape mode won't tell much different on monitor, but how about macro mode? Megapixel will come into action when we need to take photo of small object and need to enlarge them to see the detail rite?
And btw, the link u provided is not available.
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970...forgot to mention: this one was 0.8 megapixels...
Anonymous, 17 Dec 2008hmm. Some people here is not complaining. Some are not SE fans.
Some are here to just give ou... moreStill on the "megapixels" topic:
I propose a test...
Check this picture:
What do you think? Good quality?
Well guys, whenever phones will be able to create this sharpness, we'll continue the conversation.
The number of megapixels in this picture? 0.5! Half a megapixel! Not even one!!
How can one say 5mp is not enough?
Better, get the other bits improved: lenses, sensors, processors, software - whatever.
For now the "8mp" label is just to get you as a customer.
And besides, what are you going to do with those pictures? You're going to post them somewhere on a website which will standardize the size, or you're going to show them to your friends on your phone's little screen.
Other test: Find a 8mp picture on the internet, and then resize it with your picture editor to 5mp. Please let me know if the difference will strike you.
Again, my opinion, please refute.
jackson, 17 Dec 2008Hi ayava, i agreed with u. i think SE fans should go to school and attend lessons because even... morehmm. Some people here is not complaining. Some are not SE fans.
Some are here to just give out their opinion and constructive suggestion on what they think Nokia should take note on and improve.
You mean expert say that megapixel won't affect the photo quality? can u point out which "expert" make the statement?
u r rite that camera capability and speed is not all.
But they really do play some major role for most out there.
you think some of them talk english when they born??
this world got many types of people with different culture speak in different language
higly designing and feuter in this phone and everithing very very good
Hi ayava, i agreed with u. i think SE fans should go to school and attend lessons because even tho a camera expert will say megapixels isnt important but the quality of the picture/lens. it will be the case if you compare 1 megapixel to 12 megapixels. ppl complainin about the speed, there are many factors of making a phone a good phone, speed is one of the aspect but NOT EVERYTHING. u ppl should open up your eyes to see things more wider instead of complaining about 1 or 2 things outta 100.
Tit for tat by Nokia an competator for Xperia 1.
its cam inbuilt mem double and 20% bigger screen rest when launched X1 would been so cheap that still would put up resistance.As E90 is still King next who will retain it i think N97.but question mark about its smooth performance after Q2 released another Qtr to stabilize.
Anonymous, 17 Dec 2008The Nokia lovers are so funny, they are quick to call other phones cr*p because of the megapix... morethis is symbian phone not WINMO phone
you donno what is symbian phone don't say so LOUD
this make me remind of N95
when N95 release , those SOON EXPIRE fans also said like that
so funny now nokia fans said like that
nokia better than other company
at least they no cut off over 1000 job
cheap company>>SOON EXPIRE cut off 8000 jobs
The Nokia lovers are so funny, they are quick to call other phones cr*p because of the megapixels of the camera...
...but when people with the latest 8 megapixel phones call Nokia phones cr*p because of the megapixels of the camera, the excuses begin.
Nokia has used cheaper CPU's which are incapable of higher resolutions so they can make more profit from those who swallow the hype.
At least 6 months out and there is nothing BUT hype.
the pixels more also need to see the picture VIVID a not la
more pixels but produce fake picture better buy a 5mp digital camera than buy a 8MP phone
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970@ Carl a.k.a. Boo
Do you also look in the mirror saying this to yourself?? :-)
ayava, 17 Dec 2008Fair enough -- then it's about preferences.
To some the number of pixels really count. That... moreyea... fair enough.
everyone is suppose to have their own preferences.
i just don't agree when others say that megapixel does not play an important role in imaging.
Else, camera manufacturer will not compete in this area at all.
well megapixel war will never cease. now some might say that it is impossible for a phone camera to go up more than 12 megapixel because of the len size.
But no one will know.. 10 years ago, no one thought of even putting a megapixel camera in a phone rite.
I think when 12 megapixel phone is out, other specs will also be very impressive if not the same as current one. So why not go for the phone with higher megapix and having almost the same specs with cheaper or same price and available in the market regardless which manufacturer it is.
I truly hope Nokia will rise again and be on the top.
Anonymous, 17 Dec 2008The price of memory card nowadays is so cheap.
I can easily carry 10 pieces with me.
And mos... moreFair enough -- then it's about preferences.
To some the number of pixels really count. That's totally fine.
To others, the phone options, OS, memory counts more. That's totally fine.
I personally will not turn down a great phone due to less-pixels camera.
I really want to see the praising of 8mp when the 12mp is out.
How many mp's is enough btw? --Don't get me wrong, just curious...