NGJ, 07 Oct 2020Hi everyone, i'm considering to buy Nord. But worried about negative reviews posted here.... moreYou were here on 28-Sep-2020 asking the same question, to which you had got replies. Why do you ask the same question again. For your information Nord is not a bad device. Why don't you go for it, and share your experience(s) with us.
PaulMihai, 07 Oct 2020I just read the OnePlus bloatware list and after doing my own but of research I can say that ... moreI don't know everything but, I can definitely clarify something.
1. Facebook and other apps are available in Play Store. - True
2. Users, those who are interested can download these apps from Play Store. - True.
3. If this is the case why these apps are provided by the manufacturer ? - I need clarification.
4. Those who are not interested in the apps provided by the manufacturer should be able to uninstall them, whatever it may be. - True
5. If the hidden Facebook and other bloatwares are of no use and if they aren't going to harm the system, why should it exist ? Might be, it might harm only those who installs them in their device. Is it a tracker or malware ? - I need clarification.
6. Those apps which aren't used by the user of a mobile device are termed as bloatwares. For example, if a device contains the uninstallable app Facebook and if a user don't use it, it becomes a bloatware. Another example, if a user don't use the app Samsung Pay Mini on Samsung devices which is uninstallable, it becomes a bloatware. It is called bloatwares only because it can't be removed from the system. If an app leaves a hidden executable file when it is uninstalled, it is nothing but a malware.
NGJ, 07 Oct 2020Hi everyone, i'm considering to buy Nord. But worried about negative reviews posted here.... moreIam using it since August and its pretty good performer all around
Main cam is enough for most situations
Battery life is much better comparing with other oneplus devices
Getting 6.5 hrs of sot in 90% charge
So it ticks all the columns with a lesser price
Unless you expect rog level performance or pixel level camera
Hi everyone, i'm considering to buy Nord. But worried about negative reviews posted here. I really like nord's design. Should i go with oneplus 7t ?? But i don't like 7t design. Please help me out. Is nord worth of money
Subramanian CN, 06 Oct 2020List of bloatwares that come with Xiaomi mobiles...
https://technastic.com/xiaomi-bloatware... moreI just read the OnePlus bloatware list and after doing my own but of research I can say that yes it comes with some facebook installer app. A from what I understand what that does is if you have facebook and messenger (And maybe other apps owned by them) that "app" bipasses the Google play servers and updates the apps straight from facebook themselves. Keep in mind that this is my understanding and I could be totally wrong.
As for the netflix bit I could not find anything on mine and I remember having to install netflix and facebook myself.
The rest of it is just to have something to write about :)). The guy considered Google and OnePlus's apps as bloatware :)))
List of bloatwares that come with Xiaomi mobiles...
List of bloatwares that come with Samsung mobiles...
Now, OnePlus has started hiding Facebook and others with their devices.
Is it possible for a mobile user to optimize battery power and performance of their device ? Check out the following...
1. More the number of pixels in the display of a mobile, more the requirement of battery power.
2. High refresh rate requires more battery.
3. 5G processor consumes more battery. For a mobile or a computer internet a GENUINE 4G is more than sufficient. But, 5G can speed up downloads.
4. High performance processors require more battery.
5. Two active SIMs on a mobile requires more battery.
6. SD Card requires battery. Moreover, today's SD Cards are not reliable.
7. Always On display requires more battery.
8. Customised UI requires more battery than Stock UI.
9. Custom Launchers installed from Play Store requires more battery and eats RAM.
10. Face, Instagram and every other bloatware drain battery and hinders performance.
11. Some apps are malware which steals data, hinders performance and drain battery.
12. Live wallpapers drain battery, hinders performance, and eats RAM.
13. Icon packs and personalisation apps require battery and RAM.
14. Permitting any app to run at the background requires battery and RAM.
15. Always on, mobile internet data consumes battery.
16. Always on WiFi and Bluetooth consumes battery.
17. Always on Mobile Hotspot eats battery.
18. Turning off notifications for individual apps saves battery and enhances performance of the mobile.
19. Vibrator consumes more battery than sound notifications.
20. Using loud speakers of the mobile instead of earphones requires more battery.
21. Using a slow charger increases battery life and reduces heat while charging.
Sani, 06 Oct 2020Yes but it has started lagging from past 1 to 2 montha and a bit less responsive Yes, Samsungs tend to do that as do LGs. Maybe a factory reset will help although I don't have much hope.
PaulMihai, 05 Oct 2020Your phone is still pretty new. I would say wait for the next year's nord if they make one.Yes but it has started lagging from past 1 to 2 montha and a bit less responsive
Diegofnc, 06 Oct 2020At 400€ what other android options would you consider? I actually think the Nord isn't th... moreFor camera at this price Pixel 4A is king.
I would also look at S10 lite maybe.
A71 but from what I heard is not that big of a difference in terms of the main camera at least.
Other than those 2 i hear Huawei has good cameras for the price but the missing google apps are a major drawback.
And from xiaomi, opppo, realme i really don't know they might have good cameras you have to look that up, personally I would not buy phones from Xiaomi and realme at least because at least from my experience the Os does not age well.
At 400€ what other android options would you consider? I actually think the Nord isn't that good of a phone and I would like better camera quality.
Dong05, 06 Oct 2020Scouting a phone,,which of two recommended.. nord or realme 6 pro? ThanksDepends what you like.
The Nord in my opinion is better in every way other than probably battery ( 6 pro has a bigger battery and faster-advertised charging) and maybe cameras( never tried them so I don't know).
Also good to mention that 6 pro has a headphone jack and expandable storage because people still seem to care about that.
Other than that it's personal preference 6 pro si significantly bigger that OnePlus so if you like big phones that should help.
OnePlus has more refined software and faster updates other than that depends on what UI features and looks you like.
Scouting a phone,,which of two recommended.. nord or realme 6 pro? Thanks
PaulMihai, 05 Oct 2020Yes Google has the most optimized UI but it has no added extras so I don't consider it to... moreEveryone has got their own beliefs. There is nothing wrong in choosing any device because there is more to life than these mobiles.
Subramanian CN, 05 Oct 2020For you information, the best optimised UI is Stock UI of Google. Goggle keeps it very simple ... moreYes Google has the most optimized UI but it has no added extras so I don't consider it to be part of the best optimized list. It's hard not to be optimized when you don't really have any features :))).
As for the updates manufacturers can have whatever plans they want the fact is OnePlus does it faster and objectively better that anyone of them.( like I said not considering Google)
With that said it does not mean next year I will go with oneplus again just because they have nice software. And I'm egarly waiting to see if they can keep the new UI that comes with Android 11 as smooth and the updates coming as fast as before . If not they really are no different from the competition.
PaulMihai, 05 Oct 2020Didn't buy the 7t or 8 because they are just to big for me and last year I experimented w... moreFor you information, the best optimised UI is Stock UI of Google. Goggle keeps it very simple purposely. Google can make it feature rich if they want but, will do so only if it'll not hinder the performance of their Operating System. Google adds new features to their newer Android versions and their Stock UI only after optimising it properly.
Releasing Android updates depends on various Strategies of different manufacturers which is beyond the scope of our discussion. Everything can't and shouldn't be dealt here.
Subramanian CN, 05 Oct 2020I think you are very late in choosing Nord, because there were many good devices released with... moreDidn't buy the 7t or 8 because they are just to big for me and last year I experimented with the iPhone 11 to see if I like Ios( major no for me ). So I got the nord that is at around my maximum size preference ( maybe a bit to big) and will get the update for 11 relatively fast.
You are right my exprimation was wrong when I talked about android in general.
Now that you mention UI another OnePlus advantage is they're light skin so added to the fact that they have a lot less devices to support they have a light skin that will make the process even faster compared to Samsung .
My opinion still is that OnePlus overall does and will always offer better , longer and more refined support to their devices that any other android phone manufacturer.
Nord is already in closed beta phase for android 11 with stable version to be release by the end of the year.
I'll wait eagerly to see when samsung will release such a version for their phones in the same price range.
Having had multiple samsung devices and one OnePlus before in no way does One UI come close to Oxygen os( besides maybe os support if samsung will be able to keep it's 3 years update promise). One UI is heavy and clunky. I had an s9 and at the end of it's year the UI was a mess of studders and UI crashes.While they might have changed in those 2 years I do not believe they got a lot better in anyway
PaulMihai, 05 Oct 2020Because 90% of people will not change the phone yearly like I do so for them the update situat... moreI think you are very late in choosing Nord, because there were many good devices released with Android 10 before Nord and you should've already gone with one of those Android 10 devices and now, you should actually be waiting for an Android 11 device, according to your reply. If you are a fan of OxygenOS you should have already chosen OnePlus 7T or OnePlus 7T Pro which had Android 10, as inferred by me, from your reply. If you had chosen 7T or 7T Pro, Nord can't be a better device for you. Moreover, at the time of release of OnePlus 7T, no one knew about Nord.
With the introduction of Project Treble by Google, Android updates have become easier like eating chocolates, for manufacturers. The pain only lies in developing a new ROM for a new device. But, giving Android updates for them is just like copying files to a pen drive. But, most of the manufacturers are reluctant to give Android updates just because, it would cannibalize the sales of their new devices.
For your information, Samsung is a huge manufacturer and supplier of various products and components to various manufacturers. If OnePlus can afford to manage 10 devices an year, Samsung can manage 10000 devices an year. I learnt from www that Samsung is going to manufacture future Snapdragon Processors for Qualcomm.
Coming to optimization, it has nothing to do with the features of UI. The actual optimization of Android is taken care of by Google. The manufacturers who implement Android with their own Custom UI, takes care of the optimization of just their UI. To be honest, though I am not a fan of One UI and truly admit that OxygenOS is way too good, I will say that One UI is more optimised than OxygenOS. If interested you may check it for yourself. Also, check, whether Samsung has promised to give Android updates for 3 years
Subramanian CN, 05 Oct 2020Excellent. There is an advantage here for the manufacturers, now. They need not have to think ... moreBecause 90% of people will not change the phone yearly like I do so for them the update situation should be, in my opinion, top 3 in terms of the factors considered in buying the phone.
And for my situation, I don't have enough time with the phone to wait for the updates so getting them faster is a big plus( not big enough for me to choose pixels).
Of course the number of models a company launches has a major factor in their ability to keep the updated and optimized :)))
While oneplus most likely has a smaller team for os support they have around 7 phones to support altogether.
Samsung on the other hand has almost 50 devices launched this year alone so imagine the size of the team they will require to keep phones updated over 3 years.
So samsung will never be able to offer the same support and refinement OnePlus offers ( of course they can hire a huge it team but that won't be realistic)
PaulMihai, 05 Oct 2020But if you like to change the phone every year like me then you won't regret buying the nord.Excellent. There is an advantage here for the manufacturers, now. They need not have to think about Android updates. Then, why do speak about the superiority of Nord over Samsung, on the Android updates front? Moreover, giving Android updates to devices doesn't depend on the number of variants a manufacturer produces, but depends on their capability to provide one, whether it is OnePlus or Samsung.