Manjo, 19 Oct 2013Well for your information the rating base on overall performance. Not on only cameras departm... moreChrist on a bike, you Samsung fanboys are insecure. I'm not putting a gun to your head and telling you to buy a Z1. I'm not even arguing that the other two are not great phones - they are.
All I'm doing is explaining why I got one and why I, personally, prefer it. What is it about the phone that makes you so keen to jump on anyone who prefers it? Someone points out that a different phone does something better than yours and you think its,.. what? A personal attack on you?
Get a life, dude. Seriously.
Manjo, 19 Oct 2013Well for your information the rating base on overall performance. Not on only cameras departm... moreBelieve no matter how big the capacity of your battery you still need to charge it at night our twice a day for heavy usage.
Timaustin2k, 19 Oct 2013So it came last on two lesser-used minor features but was mainly consistent on all other level... moreWell for your information the rating base on overall performance. Not on only cameras department. Why don't you point about battery performance which is miserably fail against both in video and browsing department. We are not buys phone for just cameras purpose there's lots important things are there which needs to be considers.
Timaustin2k, 19 Oct 2013Why, exactly, do I need gimmicky features? I have ISO control, white balance control, exposur... moreYes, it's not the equipment, it's about how you use it. I believe in that.
You like taking pictures. I get it.
In my opinion once the S4 (I'm a user) get's the 4.3 update (What the Note 3 has) it will be the most balanced offering of a flagship:
1) LG G2 is great but dual screen multitasking is better, and so is the replaceble battery and sd slot. 2) S4 is compact relatively to the Note 3, an average customer might take that over an S pen.
3)The Z1 has IP58 protection and great camera, but it's also a great deivce in terms of size. No spare battery and worse loudspeaker.
4)I don't think that today you can really see the day to day difference, between Snapdragon 600/800 and so on. Only in 3d games. Optimized software is smooth software, so that's what it's all about.
Feel free to disagree
TheNeighbor, 19 Oct 2013Less features is more for you.Why, exactly, do I need gimmicky features? I have ISO control, white balance control, exposure control, metering control, focus controls and a number of automatic modes that fix exposure and such quite nicely for different scenes. Silly smile shutters and pointless nonsense? Not for me.
I want good photo's, properly exposed with good depth of field and great detail. The Z1 delivers all of this in spades, as you'll note from the link I posted (my own work).
There are no ifs or buts: the camera on the Z1 is the best Android snapper. Period. And that's what I was looking for.
So yes, I'm happy. Odd that you're so insecure about it.
TheNeighbor, 19 Oct 2013I'm sure you have a career in photography. What about you? You got career in photography? Ans you use a smartphone doing so? Ahahaha, that sounds like an amature.
TheNeighbor, 19 Oct 2013AMOLED screen hurting your eyes?! You can tone it down. The Z1's camera didn't come out tot... moreWell that says a lot on camera. Coz actually everyone uses it mostly on daylight. So you say Sony tops the daylight performance on camera, then Sony wins.
TheNeighbor, 19 Oct 2013AMOLED screen hurting your eyes?! You can tone it down.
The Z1's camera didn't come out tot... moreSo it came last on two lesser-used minor features but was mainly consistent on all other levels, with daylight photography (what, 70-90% of phone camera usage?) being significantly better than both?
It is worth noting that the low-light stills were noisy because they were taken on Superior Auto which, until the other day, hitched ISO too high. If pictures are taken on Manual, the phone selects a better ISO and that noise disappears - producing, I guarantee you, much better results than the other two cameras on test.
For example. http://www.flickr.com/photos/16762205@N04/sets/72157635983420745/
Tell me again, which is the better camera phone?
Timaustin2k, 19 Oct 2013What he said (below).
My priorities are different from yours. I don't like AMOLED displays... moreAMOLED screen hurting your eyes?! You can tone it down.
The Z1's camera didn't come out totally on top of the 3 devices.
"The Xperia Z1 has the biggest sensor and highest megapixel count, but its camera app is rather low on features."
"The Sony Xperia Z1 video recording capabilities max out at 1080p@30fps, which is rather low in this kind of company."
Z1 came LAST on the HDR test.
Z1 came 2nd on the low light and flash on camera stills.
Z1 came LAST on the panoramic shooting.
Z1 cane 2nd on video good lighting recording.
The only thing Z1 was top were daylight stills and low light video taking.
Manjo, 19 Oct 2013Well everyone will be pick what they want but please don't spread false information like due t... morelol, maybe I use my phones more than you :)
But no word of a lie; AMOLEDs are uncomfortable on my eyes. Other eyes may differ.
Timaustin2k, 19 Oct 2013What he said (below). My priorities are different from yours. I don't like AMOLED displays... moreWell everyone will be pick what they want but please don't spread false information like due to amoled you suffered headaches. Lol I have been using note from last 1 and half years and never ever my eyes get strees that to lead headaches. May be you use your phone too close to your eyes due to small screen....
Additional note to the "Bezels" brigade: The bezel at the bottom is actually really, really useful.
Because there's space for your thumb on the front and a camera key on the edge, this is the only smartphone that I know of that allows you to take photos one-handed. Grip with your thumb and snap away.
And as it has a lanyard hole - with lanyard - (again, why do other manufacturers not include these?) I can't possibly drop it while I'm taking said pictures.
TheNeighbor, 19 Oct 2013What makes you happy with the least rated among the 3.What he said (below).
My priorities are different from yours. I don't like AMOLED displays - they suffer from screen burn, are too overblown in colours and, frankly, give me a headache. Even without Touchwiz (which I loathe) and plasticky build quality, that's enough to put Samsung mobiles out of contention for me. You may be different.
The G2 also fails on build, to me. I've played with one in store and couldn't get over how cheap it felt to hold, and the buttons at the back,.. just no.
But, beyond all of this is the camera. It's my USP of choice - I want a good camera. No, actually, I want the best camera. The Z1 delivers, hands down, the best camera on an Android smartphone to date.
The minus points on the Z1 are simply too minor to detract from this. Okay, technically it has worse battery life than the others - but it's still damned good for a 1080p screen (I routinely get 1.5 days of heavy use). Okay, it has inferior viewing angles but head-on the screen is superb. Sure, the volume of audio through headphones is a little lower but the clarity and quality is extremely high (and anything above 70% volume on the thing is painful, anyway).
So, in short, it may come in at 3rd place but them's just numbers, mate. The Z1 ticks my boxes. The Note 3 may tick yours. Choose what's good for you.
Don't you understand what he saying? Note 3 may have the highest rating among these 3 phones TECHNICALLY. But different people has different needs, as GSMarena said "..So there you have it - these three are the best of Android, and while they compete with each other for the top spot, their target groups are different enough. It's up to you to decide which feature set suits you best, because honestly, there just isn't a wrong pick here..."
Note 3 may have the best software features + S-pen, G2 may have the most compact body among the 3 and etc., but he doesn't care about these things, he rather to have a better camera on his phone + water resistance and thus he choose Z1. And Z1 doesn't too far behind in other aspects as well except the battery performance so far, but it is still acceptable for him.
Above is what I get from him, so different ppl have different needs.
duh!, 19 Oct 2013That's your opinion...possibly you have'nt seen or hold one. In my opinion lg g2 is a very inn... moreWho would believe you that you own two high-end flagship phone? I don't own LGG2, but I tried a sample when I was trying to buy a new phone. My goodness LGG2 has no premium appeal, the screen is not as good as the hype, the screen size is fitted in small body that it looks awkward(too squeezed). Even gsmarena commented on the review on s4 vs z1 vs 1020 vs HTC one.
It says "LGG2 is not the phone you would want to be seen in the wit in the public".
See, my opinion is backed up by a reliable review.