150g (p990) vs. 180 (N93). You think those 30g will break your hand? What about my Qtek 9000 (285g)? Dude, you are funny ....
For UiQ 3 and olders versions: if you want, you can use only the jog dial for perform all tasks (except SMS writing)! (in this case you use only 1 hand) not always uses two hands, and if you want you can use it with flip without jog dial and optic pen, only pressing buttons like and ordinary phone (P990 has all buttons in the flip, not like previous P series), and you can use it with pen/touchscreen with two hand operation.
This is one of the tons of differences between two symbians, UiQ and S60.
UiQ has ALL input methods (QWERTY, in screen keyboard, handwriting recognition, normal keypad and the latest card scanner).
As you know, touchscreen make your life more easy, avoid the contanst figure "joystick+move+search+press" operation in normal phones. Simply you see the option and touch this. If you dont like this operation mode simply close the flip and play with keypad or jog dial with one hand.
Size of P990 are similar to N91 and N90 with lesser weight. I see the size apropiated for a device with BIG screen (2,76inch) and QWERTY keyboard, you understand the reason of the screen size.
Yes, all phones with open OS have bugs, but in the UiQ 3 M600 is the first of all. In previous P series SE correct the bugs and finally P910 was almost perfect, in contrast nokia release one by one monthly a LOT of S60 devices, almost all with the same problems and bugs. 3rd edition in S60 OS is much faster than previous S60 OS editions, but only in the 3250 and that phone have the screen with only 176*208, in the other side is very slow in N80 with four times more pixels.
N73/93 have faster processor than N80, probably these phones are much faster, but at the same time it means poor battery life. In N80 is a major weakness, i hope that in the last phones they correct this problem.
The P990 delaying is for evaluation of OS behavior, and launch earlier M600 to view software bugs and user opinions. This avoid to launch unfinnalized software and spend money in correct users problems in the main phone in SE line at the moment.
And the last, yes, its very expensive, but P990 never was for the mases. UiQ for SE is only for enterprise segment.
P990 is nowhere near N93 on the JBENCHMARK website. Now, what kind of people buy SE? I'll tell you. People who have a tendecy to be rude and try to show off all the time. I am reffering to people who take out their SE WALKMANS and annoy other people on the street with their music rather than putting their headphones on. My car was at the garage and i was waiting for the bus one time. I was chatting with my girlfriend and 4 guys with SE walkmans, music on max volume on their speaker (different music on 4 devices) come and shave them in our face showing off. We moved aside, and continued our convo. They moved with us with their walkmans and kept showing how cool they were. At one point my girlfriend, takes out the N91 and says: "This phone is more expensive than all 4 phones you guys have there. If i don't show off, it does not mean i do not have the means".
Everywhere you go, somebody has a SE walkman out their pockets with no headphones to piss you off. Bottom line, SE is for rude and poor people, whereas NOKIA is for classy people. You never see a NOKIA user disturbing other people.
You like to fire a broadside as usual. :P So let´s follow the normal procedure and I´ll just start disagreeing...
First i have to say that, yes, I am somewhat disappointed and actually slightly amused with the noisy imaging performance of the much hyped N93, as it performed significantly better in the old m-r preview. We´ll just have to hope that a firmware update might do the trick...
Then about the also much hyped P990i. First i have to say that it was just released! :D I never thought I´d see the day...
Let´s talk about the UiQ, which seems to be the spearhead in "the greatness of the P-series". What is the real difference between UiQ and S60 UI? Well, with UiQ you get the "convenience" of using TWO hands instead of one, since the UiQ uses the touch-display technology. This is naturally handy when sitting by a table or if you need to handle complex data quickly. Otherwise, it means that you´ll have to use both of your hands to perform simple enough tasks to be usually performed with one. Also, if you are in a car or in otherwise unstable circumstances, it can be a pain to hit the right spot with that pen-thingie needed... Also, the touch-display is just one more thing to brake. This is what I think.
It has also been mentioned that the UiW is supposed to be more stable than normal S60-platforms. Well, I made some research and read some oinions about the M600, which uses the UiQ if everyone doesn´t know. It turned out that the M600 suffers from the same problems and bugs as the S60, you know, crashes, reboots and that... So, if the UiQ is somehow more stable than the S60, the difference seems to be quite insignificant. All phones have bugs... Especially Symbian-based ones such as let´s say N80 and M600.
Next about the P990i and it´s features.
I have to say that the P990i seems to have the widest variety of features in the business class to date. Most impressive indeed. It quite much has got everything needed, as Tarantula earlier correctly stated.
Then the negative aspects, believe me, they exist in the P990i too... First thing you notice, is that the phone is very ugly, it is, really. I know that´s a matter of taste but no can do... It is also rather hevy, when compared to it´s opponents in the E-series, and bulky. You can understand that when looking a the features. Same effect as in the N93 - filled with features on the cost of the size.
Not much to complain feature wise: Older Wi-fi, no EDGE (I know, it has 3g, but anyway), display could kick more ass and so on. Nothing really important.
But the last thing... It cost alot, 1200 usd in one place, 900 in an other. You can buy almost three E70´s for that.
Well... in my opinion id buy N93 because overall i find it better, and i cant help it but to agree with most people... SE phones are made out of cheap materials, crappy joysticks that break in a couple of months, they are just made to last a year (in the best case) so you'd buy another one...
Anyway, i admit pics taken with K800 look better than the ones of N93 but i also see that N73 sweeps the floor with K800.
u trying to say canon, olympus better than sony? LOL.. use ur brain man!!
Reply to who wrote this line: "If u got brain ,u will know cybershot is the best in portable digi cam world, and sony is the best in electronic devices"
LMAO! Hahaha, they are nowhere near the real brands like Canon, Nikon, and Olympus dude. Best in electronic devices? If you meant they are best at failing to suppress the industry with their standards (MD, BlueRay, UMD etc), then they are the best, yes! LMAO again, just look at how crap their PSP is. Give me a break dude. The only thing Sony is good at is lieing (about) and twisting the facts. I'm no Nokia fanboy: if LG made better products for me I would buy one of their phones - I'm a free customer and choose products because I like them, not because they are from a particular brand.
Do you homework better instead of playing with your branded walkman handset.
funny how the argument segwayed to a different...
guys this is just a camera review between n93 and k800, let's stick to the topic...
let's talk about the different imaging features by those phones.
like n93 has optical zoom
k800 has photo blogging
n93 has adobe premiere included
k800 has xenon flash
then try to make your own comparison...
Just for the record SonyE. P series is based on symian like all nokia smartphones.....just talk......
The n73 photo quality is better than N93 and better than K800.
Because N93 is the VIDEO phone and N73 is the PHOTO phone!
There is no all-in-one device on the market novadays, the k800 has good photo but err... just useless horrible video.
The N73 has goog photo (better than k800) but average video (still miles better than SE).
The N93 has the best video but not very good photo (still better than k800 in some conditions, no purple color, better colors). Look here for the comparisson, not these two pics as GSMarena showed us:
' bye bye cyber shot'??? am I hearing a joke? . If u got brain ,u will know cybershot is the best in portable digi cam world, and sony is the best in electronic devices,. keep calm nokia fans. Don't be so afraid that ppl changing from nokia to SE. as long as u stick with nokia , they won't die too soon.
http://flickr.com/search/?q=n73&s=rec says enough. Bye bye CyberShot
LMAO about SE fanboy talk. You guys should be ashamed. Sony products suck, and that's a fact. Cybershot cams (in general) are lame cause you need their slow and stupid proprietary memory stick. Go play with your quasi-walkman phones. They sure make better pics than N93, but (unfortunately for you guys) not as good as N73 :)
I had a T68, T610 and now i use W800, apart nokias 3650 and 6230 ericsson T28, T39 and a cheap samsung that i sold inmediately. All of these SE phones has joystick and NEVER failed. Now i use my T610 (3 years ago) and my great W800. i very happy with my T610, now and always i use it with joy without joystick problems, maybe your thumb is too big.
First of all get a grip , none of the cameras reach the quality of a digital camera...second of all , SE makes the crapiest phones possible ... since T68 they haven't been able to change that lousy joystick which breaks after two weeks of use , i mean c'mon their phones are just bad, cheap materials , small screens, lousy speakers and everything.
So what if their camera takes slightly better pictures than the one on the N93 , i say they're pretty retarded to use the video shooting technology used 2 years ago ... still 3GP , when all phone producers use MP4 ...
Overall i say you can't compare NOKIA and SE , SE makes cheap phones and NOKIA makes real phones, phones that last over the years , not crappy things which you throw away after a month.
Hello Dreadnough, long time ago since i discussed with you.
I remember that you write about N93/K800 comparisson in mobile-review, you are proud of N93 photo performance, for now i smell your frustration.
In the final M-R review about N80 eldar clearly say that such smartphone dont meet basic requirements of a SMARTPHONE in a few words. Most of nokias smartphones users uses it to download games and useless aplications. If the situation contradicts my opinion, most of nokias S60 fans uses their smatphones to business or to a very worked situations... BUT IT ISNT THE CASE!!!
I had the 3650, since this time i very dissapointing with the S60 focussed, its more to play, but no more, and like me a lot of people; i realized that i dont want a phone with this level of complexity and poorer performance in speed and battery life, later i play with P900 and i see the difference.
You ask to a people who need PRODUCTIVITY in their work or enterprise, ALWAYS USE A SE UiQ, linux or WINDOWS SMARTPHONE because a simple reason: these OSs are more relaible, more worked interface, more business oriented. Recently nokia attemps to enter in this concept, but with S60 i really doubt about the success of this attempt. You are a witness in the P900/P910 case, now this smartphones are already used and take into account that these devices are old (same plattform of P800), only update OS and some functions (RIM, screen)In the moment of P990 launch simply crush all nokia E series. Its simply OS question, not the tech inside, and i like to add that P990 has everything.
And about numbers in the link posted before, N70 isnt compete in a serious SMARTPHONE segment, a serious business man have a P series phone in their pocket, not a N70... please, this is a toy for a childrens. More comparable device with N70 is K750 (it isnt smartphone)but not a P series, P series is in another level.
Maybe N70 sells a 1000 millions of units, but it isnt comparable to an UiQ device... please, be realistic. dont come to me with numbers and dont try to scare me with this
Still, I wonder why the figures say that more people prefer Nokia over SE.
How can a firmware upgrade improve the image quality when the problem is a HARDWARE one!
The N93 struggles to produce true 3MP pics because of its CMOS - no amount of firmware tweaking will help remove that noise.
I'm more interested in how it compares to the P990 which my supplier tells me will also be available on O2 at the same time as the N93 and at the same price. Only 2MP camera (but probably not much worse than the N93! lol), no EDGE and no wifi G...but a TOUCH SCREEN. That's a huge plus point and I wonder how easy the N93 is to use compared with a touch screen phone.
SE has better phones in sound quality and camera quality but nokia has phones that last longer and the NOKIA brand is better advertised. In terms of design they are close but still the NOKIA brand is far more wanted by ppl than the SE one altough many SE phones kick Nokia in the behind!