MHanz, 08 Jun 2014Don't be ignorant. Most reviewers say something else when their own shots show otherwise. Go l... moreIgnorant?? People in glass houses..did you even read what I.was replying to? Nup surprise lol I didn't say the z2 camera was bad.. I just disagreed that the z2 camera was 'vastly better' than the g3s I'm just going by trusted/ professional reviewers including gsmarena.. and by personal experience I wouldn't buy a phone made by Sony.. constant issues with their displays anddddd wait for it..camera units
Btw I'll quote u here.. don't be Ignorant and assume I'm brand loyal,to be so is just plain stupid..hard.to be critical when your bias from the beginning right
Stromma, 08 Jun 2014Is the reviewed phone a final product or a pre-korean model? Is it fair to assume that some of... moreKorean model by the looks of things. LG has told several reviewers the software is not final and the tuning is specifically for South Korea's LTE-A networks so tests done now are expected to show lower battery life.
That said don't expect battery life to jump by like 3 hrs more maybe 2 hrs tops which would make it very good given the QHD display. Endurance can increase by a lot more as it is easier to work on standby power when the SoCs are the same between most flagships of 2014
alexalex, 08 Jun 2014If you own a iphone 3gs i would definitely get Htc one(M8) if i were you.I ve considered HTC one m8 along with Z2 & S5 before finalizing G3. Glass rear is ALWAYS a BIG NO for me as i said in my earlier post due to my dislike for cases. HTC one M8's height bothered me a lot. and the awkward position of power button, the most used HW part of any phone. I find it very very inconvenient to use after trying it myself in stores. Ya it has better speakers & Battery. But no phone is perfect. it all boils down to individual preferences. But i do see the good aspects of S5 & one m8 in their own way. But am for LG G3.
Is the reviewed phone a final product or a pre-korean model? Is it fair to assume that some of the benchmark results, as well as some of the display issues (contrasts etc), can be software and/or optimization related and probably will be improved in the final version?
alexalex, 08 Jun 2014I think you should get a Z2 before making so much comments about it's camera.As you said every... moreI did play around with the Z2 I already mentioned that and they are what you see on flickr. There are way too many samples for you to see the repeated patterns. You don't even need to play with the said device to know what it's capable of.
Low light Z2 is just plain better at the same ISO and nearly similar exposure times but when I say 'better' it's all relative to other top androids. No phone not even the PV808 is a match for DSLRs of good sensors fitted in them especially at higher ISOs. You want the best shots in all conditions get a DLSR. You have to pay more for true quality.
Shan83, 08 Jun 2014Ok MHanz, so wats ur take on LG G3. It may not be a wise choice for people owning G2 to upgrad... moreI am an extreme phone roadwarrior type user for me the Z2's battery life is best so far in the android world. But I prefer a 5.5" screen size as I have rather big digits.
The battery life of the G3 is not enough for me but this doesn't mean it's terrible for others. Many forget the battery performance is very close to GS4 given all the inconsistencies of browser and radios depending on conditions. This will improve and probably end up better than the S4 and a lot closer to G2. It is matter of time but I am not patient right now that's just me. But beating G2 levels in battery life is not probably not going to happen across the board.
The batter life on G3 is very good, just not good enough for crazies like me. LG is after the mass market and any one saying the G3's battery life is not enough is just sore in the rear or just some random hater.
They can hate the display as it's personal taste, they can hate the UI that's again personal taste, they can hate the overall looks of the design that's again taste but Battery life being poor is just someone trying hard to be denial that it is actually very good for the normal user.
There is hope for roadwarrirors still, ZeroLemon or others can come up with nifty extended battery monster packs.
Apart from that the display is being praised by almost everyone as simply being awesome/outstanding and must be seen in person. I remember being underwhelmed by the G2's display on youtube videos but seeing it in person it was a WOW moment. I learned my lesson then, judging a display from pictures and youtube videos is just foolhardy. You must see it in person. The Z2 is also very good I saw that one in person. I am looking forward to checking the G3 out myself.
Camera is right up there with the best but just like every cameraphone they have their strengths and weakness. S5 is rubbish in dark light conditions, Z2 is much batter, LG G pro 2 was good to give Z2 a run for its money I expect the same from G3. Some samples on flickr and by some reviewers already pretty much point towards slightly improved low light shots on the G3 compared to the G Pro 2. G3 still has issues in blowing out highlights in low light consitions and the Z2 as issues of Superior Auto being a hit or a miss plus limited to 8MP and S5 utterly being trash in low light so every thing has its weaknesses. You want a good camera shot? Get a DSLR. This is not going to change for the foreseeable future unless some new miracle tech comes along that can do what big sensor DSLRs can do on a tiny sensor. Physics is against that from happening for a long long while yet.
UI and design is personal taste, G3 is superb IMHO. There are gimmicky stuff on many OEM phones I don't care much for those but fanboys will harp on that and say that's why some of their favorite brands are better.
If you have G2 and you are happy with it then the G3 is not a good enough reason to upgrade. But someone who has a phone that 3-5 years old then definitely G3 is a worthy buy hands down for any normal user. Power users like me will tend to focus on one aspect the most and need phones that can specifically cater to that. LG Doesn't care if they lose me as a customer to the Z2 as they are going to get 1000 other happy customers instead. Fanboys think too highly of themselves when they rant in here lol
MHanz, 08 Jun 2014Don't be ignorant. Most reviewers say something else when their own shots show otherwise. Go l... moreI think you should get a Z2 before making so much comments about it's camera.As you said everybody can check countless photos and will see that even the Iphone 5s,Galaxy s4 and LG G2 make better stills than the Xperia Z2(let's not talk about S5 ,Note 3 or LG G3).I see the Z2 camera on par with Huawei's P7 camera for example or Oppo but not better (that's regarding stills,video is a different story)
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2014Vastly better camera?? What reviews you reading?lol the g3 has one of the best cameras on any ... moreDon't be ignorant. Most reviewers say something else when their own shots show otherwise. Go look at the ISO settings and compare the Z2 to other phones except the PV 808 and L1020 and you will see Z2 is just plain superior. Flickr is a good place to check countless shots done by normal people who don't have to bendover backwards to their personal brand biases. Review making is a business remember that. Use you own eyes not brand loyalty. It's your money after all.
MHanz, 08 Jun 2014Then choose the Z2, problem solved. Good battery life, bigger screen and vastly better camera.Nope. Z2 may broke easily, a few friends of mine have had their Z2's replaced for broken glasses. Z2's audio output is also a bit low in volume. G3 also looks better and has a better audio output. Let's see, I'll have to test these devices again before making my decision.
MHanz, 08 Jun 2014And after the KitKat update on G2
Talk time: 25 hrs 15 mins
IM/Browsing on Wifi: 11 hrs 42... moreOk MHanz, so wats ur take on LG G3. It may not be a wise choice for people owning G2 to upgrade to G3. But people like me with phones older than 4-5 yrs, LG G3 is a juicy upgrade i feel. I own a iPhone 3GS. What i dint like about G2 were:
1. Plastic rear - attracts fingerprints a lot - am a person who never uses cases.
2. cartoonish UI
So i was waiting for new phone launches. LG G3 blew me away.
LG should have waited for the Snapdragon 805 , the GPU with this chipset is too weak for a flagship device with such resolution. Shame , almost but not quite there LG. As soon as other bring out similar devices with 805 snapdragons the LG G3 will fade away...
MHanz, 08 Jun 2014Then choose the Z2, problem solved. Good battery life, bigger screen and vastly better camera.Vastly better camera?? What reviews you reading?lol the g3 has one of the best cameras on any high end phone regardless of megapixels. Sony always struggles with their camera units the z2 isn't any different
Anonymous, 08 Jun 2014This or the M8 will be my next phone. M8's small screen is a problem, though...Then choose the Z2, problem solved. Good battery life, bigger screen and vastly better camera.
This or the M8 will be my next phone. M8's small screen is a problem, though...
Shan83, 08 Jun 2014Probably you need to learn to read english first before talking about smartphones and their st... moreAnd after the KitKat update on G2
Talk time: 25 hrs 15 mins
IM/Browsing on Wifi: 11 hrs 42 mins
Video Playback of SD quality file: 9 hrs 28 mins
That vs G3's
Talk time: 24 hrs 54 mins
IM/Browsing on Wifi: 6 hrs 40 mins
Video Playback of SD quality file: 9 hrs 57 mins
So SD video play went up a bit on the the G3, this was to be expected with the 3A optimizations. Play real QHD media and the battery life will be obviously lesser.
Web-browsers can take advantage of the QHD display so the GPU stress is more hence the lower battery life times but even then LG's 3A optimization should help a bit and it has otherwise you would be looking at dismal sub 5 hr browsing times, plus the stock browser is never any good in battery life anyway. People surf with other browsers and those yield better screen on-times.
And on top of ALL that the lovely WiFi 11-12 hrs GSM arena gets on Z2 or G2 on IM/Webbrowsing is never achievable on 3G/LTE, most get 3.5-4 hrs tops on heavy all day mobile data usage. Radios perform differently compared to WiFi and mobile data efficiency for the same SoC nowadays is largely dependent on the network you are on exactly why GSM Arena doesn't test something that is as unreliable as a mobile data connection for consistent repeatable results.
You Know Me, 08 Jun 2014"What gsm arena and other people and sites DONT know that the Panel LTPS who spends a lit... moreLTPS is different from IPS implementation wise so it's not about something being a cheaper form of IPS. Yes the G3's QHD is LTPS as confirmed on LG's own newsroom links.
AmateurHistorian, 08 Jun 2014LG is a moron. Listened to Android fanboy and actually put a screen with half-baked technology... moreProbably you need to learn to read english first before talking about smartphones and their stuff. G3 / G2 - 3G talk time - 24:54h /25:01h & Video playback - 9:57h/11:51h. Wats d big deal here. wake up and dont talk and post fake info.
LG is a moron. Listened to Android fanboy and actually put a screen with half-baked technology into their phone. Comparing with G2 (http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g2-review-982p2.php), G3 only managed half the web browsing time and 75% video playback. Contrast ratio is half G2's 1500 so it actually looks worst than G2's screen indoor and outdoor.