Anonymous, 12 Oct 2014Benchmarks are not important. However the fact that the iPhone 6 plus beat the Note 4 despite ... moreBenchmarks mean something. Just not everything.
And the most important thing to "note" here is that in daily usage you don't see much speed difference. What you do notice is the extreme lack of anything ios has. As well as all the bugs, freezing and crashing it does have.
And if you can't fully understand the entire spectrum of something you should not be making comments.
The iphone does not win in all benchmarks. And where it does win there are reasons behind it doing so. Which are not "they do everything better".
IOS is excessively restricted and limited. That right there is the biggest reason for almost every advantage it has in most aspects. They use system wide lock down as an illusion to perfection. A failed I'lillusion that I cannot for the life of me figure out how so many are blind to. It's to the point software and hardware that technically flip phones of 2004 still have some hardware/software advances ios/iphone lack....that's not innovation or optimization. That's laziness and greed.
And the cpu points do good in some test because they are using a different architecture. A 57 cores which are stronger. However to be greedy they charge you more for a lower clocked cpu and weaker battery. And because a weaker battery couldn't support a proper clocked cpu it is severely held back.
And the 1gb of ram probably aids heavily in the freezes and crashes. Especially since higher amounts of ram are a requirement for 64bit architecture. Requirement, not a maybe..but again. Apple only cares about excessive profit.
Just because it can run well on low hardware doesn't mean they should only use limited hardware. Especially if they charge more than everyone else.
Android "especially kitkat" can run great on less hardware....that's where the low end phones come in.
Since they charge so much and claim themselves so premium and advanced they could have worked out many more bugs, added 2 or 3gb of ram and clocked the cpu to 1.8 or 2ghz. And even made it quad core with a beefier battery.
Then it would have a performance lead and be worth the price.... but their greed again...Profits and illusions.
You do realize the battery stayed the same basically since the iphone 4-5s. That's 4 different iphones with the same battery... and the 5c.
And the little bump the 6 got was only enough to accommodate the larger screen. The 6 plus is the only one to actually get a decent bump in battery life.
But they did include a new and strong gpu. Go figure. It just came out and there is an updated gpu off the vendor they use.
So that in combination with their restrictions amd lack of functions makes benchmarks appear good.
That in turn does not change any of their negatives or change the fact it's mostly restrictions and the good gpu.
It is not top end optimizing and even if it was which its not it still wouldn't justify the lesser expensive parts.
Though they finally increased a few things.
Anonymous, 12 Oct 2014Benchmarks are not important. However the fact that the iPhone 6 plus beat the Note 4 despite ... moreThing is its not just hardware that dictates benchmark scores, software counts too.
Like what some android vendors did in previous benchmarks, I'd bet apple throttles the iPhone when running benchmarks. That's what ultra-optimising will do.
Benchmarks are not important. However the fact that the iPhone 6 plus beat the Note 4 despite its inferior components (dual core processor & 1GB RAM) shows how ridiculous it is to trumpet Note 4's spec sheet. Having a superior list of top tier components means nothing if it can't even capitalize on it to beat the competition in terms of performance. Again, not saying that benchmarks are important (real world performance is what really counts) but logic would dictate that the Note 4 should at least come out slightly ahead of the iPhone 6 plus with such a superior sped sheet.
I was interested in trading in my Note 3 for a Note 4 because I'm very interested in Gear VR, but the downgrade from USB 3 to USB 2 is a deal breaker for me. I hope Samsung doesn't think I'll buy a Note 5 without USB 3, because I certainly won't!
Trued Up, 12 Oct 2014...for all phones, you can always find fault in anything...I forgot who said this (maybe on th... moreActually not. Some phones have many more amazing points and some have many more flaws.
The note 4 is overall best device. 6+ is same scam any other iphone is.
And no company is perfect, but the ridiculous umbrella Corp wannabe aka apple is not a great company.
They are just socially accepted scams.
The iphone is terribly restricted, limited behind, and overpriced.
dextrlab, 11 Oct 2014Where is the real world experience? Those app startup and loading times longer than iPhones? W... moreOh wow. They do things a tiny little bit faster by having system wide restriction/lock down and lacking any useful or current set of features. ...
But then have the world lead in app crashes, bugs, and keep freezing and lagging a lot.
Plus use inferior hardware and cost more.....
Wow. ...but the brand new gpu and lack of features let's the benchmark have you believe it works. ...
So amazing. ..
dextrlab, 11 Oct 2014LOL! What a hater's sarcastic reply. Its very true if only it beats iPhones in benchmark then ... moreOh wow....it uses system wide lock down combined with just being released with a newer gpu to be a little better than some in benchmarks.....And has a horrific fail in actual user experience....
dextrlab, 11 Oct 2014Benchmarks are now pointless because the fact that Note 4 didnt came as you expected in terms ... moreOr you ate blowing it out of proportion and hanging on it like it means everything. Not even realizing what makes those scores for real which is different than what you think.
As well as in compete denial of how drastically worse the real life usage of ios is.
why gsmarena review only the S805 version. I wonder how is the performance of Exynos version.
Also people might want to know the Gear VR experience. Please update it when Gear VR released..
Its true... IOS vs Android is like Console vs PC.. The similarity accurately fits..
Thom Parslow, 11 Oct 2014You fail to understand comparing IOS and android through benchmarks is a total gimmick. The f... moreMan.. U gave out the best and most basic difference between ios and android... Like it...
X, 11 Oct 2014Flash a custom ROM on a new 6-700 bucks phone? No thanks, I buy a phone to USE IT, not to temp... moreFlashing custom rom has nothing to do with software.. It means getting rooted and installing what you want..
Don't tell IOS is perfect.. I would like flashing rom over ios, if possible though, rather than on Android. So custom rom means cracking for fun and not because of dissatisfaction.
Have Samsung finally fixed the purple ghosting issue with their screens? I've just got rid of my s5 partly because it annoys me so much. I love the punchy colours and deep blacks but it's a major issue that needs addressed also screen colour uniformity. I swapped 2 phones in the return window trying to get one with uniform whites and greys before giving up and just accepting it.
Trued Up, 12 Oct 2014...for all phones, you can always find fault in anything...I forgot who said this (maybe on th... moreAbsolutely right. I have the m8 and the 5s and they are both great each in a different way. I can not seem to understand this raging war between fanboys of each side and what benefit they are getting from this endless war unless they have shares in these companies :)
dextrlab, 11 Oct 2014Benchmarks are now pointless because the fact that Note 4 didnt came as you expected in terms ... moreIt did not win to the iphone in benchmark? so what? It does not mean that the iphone is better, if youre proud of be using an IOS for kids great for you dude (: just leave the rest of the people alone.
Hell yea, note 4 will own the year, i was first in line for the note 2, jumped to the note 3, now jumping to the 4, love tmobile!
...for all phones, you can always find fault in anything...I forgot who said this (maybe on this thread or another) but basically stated: "all companies wont make a perfect phone, if they did, the next iteration wouldn't improve anything..."
Apple and Samsung are both great companies, both have great innovation, both are respected industry leaders...in the end, its to the benefit of the end user that these companies are trying "one up" another...keep the competition, keep innovating and we all end up winners.