Time to make things clear:
1.Dxomark has tested the normal Z5 and not The Z5 compact.....so Z5 compact's results might differ,although they are identical....and seriously...GSMarena is being too hard on this phone's camera
2.Not everyone has enough skill to root their phone and disable cores....so the company was supposed make a cooler phone :-)
3.i'm a sony fanboy myself but truth needs to be said. The only disappointment i see in this phone is 2Gb of ram which could be more.The screen is better to remain 720 even for generations until a more capable battery or a battery with a new technology could be used.
4..pls people.... be nice to each other,a phone or being fan of a brand is no worthy of insulting each other...even in an ironic way.
Tee, 08 Oct 2015You are absolutely right. I bought the Z3 Compact a year ago, and since day one I was plagued ... moreyou are both trolls because there is no way that phone will not heat up after 30 minutes of gaming,no mater witch chipset uses simply because battery discharge will heat up the phone! even if chipset is cool as ice ;) and this will know anybody who has any basis knowledge how the phone works , besides that i hope you enjoy the news that next Samsung S7 will be using Snapdragon 820 ;)... it seams that trolls are not aware of this fact yet :D
AnonD-134798, 08 Oct 2015Can anyone confirm if the RAM is LPDDR4 ?It's a Snapdragon 810, so LPDDR4
Adiyel, 08 Oct 2015Sir, you may have a defective device. These things happen. I am looking at my Z3C right next t... moreYou see what I mean Tee, all you need do is mention the word Exynos, and suddenly your a paid troll!!!!!
We are talking KGB levels of paranoia here!!!! it's really quite sad.
Adiyel, 08 Oct 2015If you root your phone and install a free system manager like 3C toolbox, you can turn off two... moreAnd what if I don't want to root the device and void the warranty, what if instead I would just like the device I have just paid a hefty sum for to work as advertised out of the box??????
Got any suggestions there pal???????
Tee, 08 Oct 2015You are absolutely right. I bought the Z3 Compact a year ago, and since day one I was plagued ... moreCareful, this lot will be all over you :)
They are quite jumpy and quick to take offence on here regarding any criticism of the brand with which they are so obsessed.
To get back to your point though, I have been a big supporter of Snapdragon devices in the past, The problem I think is the 810, if they used an 808, I don't think there would be any issues here.
Hopefully Qualcomm will be back on form with the 820, they are at their best when using custom in house architecture.
We'll just have to wait and see how a future Z6 series performs with the 820, my expectations are high.
Would like to have at least tried a Note 5, unfortunately Samsung decided not to release it in the UK :(
Ale, 08 Oct 2015Ah right, I see now. Yeah I wouldn't agree the Z5C is a downgrade in anyway. The fingerprint s... moreIf you root your phone and install a free system manager like 3C toolbox, you can turn off two of the "big" cores and viola, you have SD808 but with a better gpu and other advantages that you can never get in the SD808 SoC. People with a little bit of vision realize that this phone really is better than the Z3C, me included. I'm sitting next to one right now (a Z3C) and I love it. If Sony doesn't produce a Z7C, then I'm all in next fall for a Z5C
Jumbo, 08 Oct 2015What risk? You've only got something to win, nothing to lose... well except your dissatisfact... moreYes, I went out of my way and parted with near £550 just so I could be unhappy with something........
Is this really how your brain works????
Imaging this same conversation was about a Galaxy S6 or iPhone or HTC One M9, would you care as much either way?
I use and rely upon my mobile phone constantly, I don't live around the corner form my local Carphone Warehouse, so no I wasn't willing to risk having to make the effort to take another one back (not when at this price there are plenty of alternatives on the market) sorry it seems to offend you so much by this.
Tee, 08 Oct 2015You are absolutely right. I bought the Z3 Compact a year ago, and since day one I was plagued ... moreSir, you may have a defective device. These things happen. I am looking at my Z3C right next to me as I type this, and I'm looking at the battery statistics in by System manager. After playing games all night, my phone never got above 36.3 C. You either have a defective device, or you're a paid troll here to smear this device before widespread launch. I hope you're not the second...
...but considering your mentioning of the Exynos, you very well could be a paid troll.
I am sometimes very pissed at the non-standard batterylife stats for GSMArena. Z5C @ 50% brightness is only 106 cd/m2, whereas many other phones are like 170-200 cd/m2 range. This gives unfair advantage to Sony or other displays which are less brighter at 50%.
I think GSMArena should make it a norm to test @ 50% brighteness, but with a certain limit. Like minimum should be 150 cd/m2 and max 250 cd/m2.
If a phone is 300cd/m2 @ 50%, and another is just 100 cd/m2 @ 50%, it doesn't make sense to compare them. There must be a minimum and maximum limit.
Alright, so I just took a look at things, and the camera from the camera comparison tool's perspective has gotten better than its predecessors. It's arguably better than the iPhone 6s plus as well; not quite as stable, but its best are definitely better.
Also for those complaining about battery life, do understand that this is due to the SD810 being a higher tier chipset than the SD801 (just as the previous generation's SD600 was top dog in their day, and now it's the mid-tier numbering) and the failures of lollipop. People are complaining about 3.5 hour and 2 hour hits in web browsing and video respectively, but it's also standby times that hurt it (this is due to lollipop and the way google play services goes grazy). Lollipop phones in general had great call times but web browsing generally got worse and video playback just a little (hence, an almost 12 hour boost in call times over the Z3C). Marshmallow should fix this.
All in all, if we keep holding on to the battery achievement of the Z3C as a benchmark, we'll be slow to get anywhere with our compact line. Android marshmallow should bring better browsing and standby times, putting the Z5C within spitting range of the Z3C. SD820+Android 6.0 on the Z7C should bring the life back to that 101 hours...IF Sony decides to make a Z7 series before exiting the business.
Ale, 08 Oct 2015Well when you have just paid £549.99 for a device and it starts to heat up when asked to... moreYou are absolutely right. I bought the Z3 Compact a year ago, and since day one I was plagued with heating issues (was still on Kitkat back then). We pay top dollars and we get a device that can't be used for 5 minutes without heating up. The Z3C heated up to 40 degrees while performing simple tasks like calls / messaging. Web browsing and games made it over 45 degrees, making it uncomfortable to hold. I recently bought the Note 5 and I couldn't be happier. While the N5 is bigger, it produces zero heat, the Exynos SoC is very power efficient. I played 30 minutes of Hitman Sniper and the phone was at a mere 33 degrees! I'm staying away from Snapdragon in all my future phones.
AnonD-404798, 08 Oct 2015Me and the dxomark http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-Z5-Mobile-review-Best-mobile-pho... moreEr.. still you I'm afraid.
Dx0 Mark is now every Sony fans best friend, this is in contrast it seems to when they gave previous Sony devices middling score's and you all were questioning their validity. But whatever hey!
I think Dx0 are genuinely impressed by the Z5 series camera's (however in this case they seem to be running contradictory to other members of the tech community and their findings) and I agree that the majority of OEM's use Sony hardware, this is because Sony are the market leaders in the field of mobile imaging.
Look, I like Sony, I have a Sony TV, and bought the PS4 over the Xbox One in a recent purchase.
That is besides the point mind, on what grounds are you claiming OIS is more advanced than DIS, which has long been held as the superior method of image stabilisation in the camera world???
I think other players in this game like maybe Canon, Nikon, Fujifilm, Pentax etc. might disagree with you. Are you saying you know better than them????
Anonymous, 08 Oct 2015I'm sorry but I think I just replied to L91T. And there you get the word downgrade. I want to ... moreAh right, I see now. Yeah I wouldn't agree the Z5C is a downgrade in anyway. The fingerprint scanner is top notch, I have no problem with the screen staying at 720p, and though some people have complained I do think it's a better looking device than the Z3C.
I just wish they would have used the Snapdragon 808 instead of the 810, the 808 is a reliable and capable SoC, and at 720p screen resolution the Adreno 418 GPU would have been easily more than enough.
If they'd have used the 808, I probably would have swapped to the Z5C when I returned my Z5, I am just not will to take the chance on another device based around the 810, as the old saying goes 'where there's smoke, there's fire' (excuse the pun) and the 810 has issues, it's that simple.
Ale, 08 Oct 2015Hahaha!!!!.... now your making me laugh......Dis more advanced than OIS?!?!?!?!
Quick someo... moreMe and the dxomark http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-Z5-Mobile-review-Best-mobile-photo-video-scores-to-date so you know better than them?
and who makes those awesome camera sensors for apple,lg and Samsung ?
The answer is : SONY ;-)
who is lunatic now?
Andrew, 08 Oct 2015Simple fact is, there's nothing wrong with a device getting warm. They all get warm, no surpri... moreOr well I guess if you burn yourself on it because it's too hot, that wouldn't be ideal either I guess. :p
Simple fact is, there's nothing wrong with a device getting warm. They all get warm, no surprises there. There is only a problem when apps start crashing because of it. THat seems very rare with the current releases so if that's happening to you/someone you love, you/they probably got a bung device and you/they should get it swapped, rather than conclude that --every-- specimen is similarly defective.
The battery rating should be noted though, that z3 compact was tested with KitKat whereas Lollipop drain it a bit more. So all to be considered, z5 compact is still quite a performer, considering the screen is improved too.
Ale, 08 Oct 2015Sorry I'm not sure where your getting the 'Downgrade' reference from? it's not something I hav... moreI'm sorry but I think I just replied to L91T. And there you get the word downgrade. I want to be fair and objective w/ my judgements, and if ever they find the need for improvement, why not? Then so be it.