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GSMArena team, 23 October, 2015

iPhone 6s vs. Galaxy S6 vs. Xperia Z5 Comments

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  • 28 Oct 2015

Xperia rocks, 27 Oct 2015Hmmm. Looks like Samsung is now undercutting prices to sell more units. It's predator pricing.... moreI think there is a you say an element of 'predator pricing' going on with the Galaxy S6 at the moment, the difference in price now compared to what it launched at is quite striking (at least in the uk).

There are other factors I think though, Sony are smart enough to launch a series of devices in line (Z5C, Z5 and Z5 Premium etc.) Samsung however stagger their relapse cycle, the S6 in March or was it April? and then the Note 5 in September. I think releasing the Note 5 later causes the previous device to fall in value as it's perceived to be older and therefor inferior.

Sony avoid this by releasing a range simultaneously (ok the Premium is a few weeks later but you get my point). This way not one of the range is considered to be the older device and their price can just be reflective of where they sit in the line up.

Another factor is the depreciation that occurs naturally in the Android space, it's a fact that Androids do not hold value well, when I bought my G4 at launch in May I paid £505 from Clove Technology (and that was the plastic back version, not the leather) now though it's selling at £372. The Z5 by contrast went on sale with Clove at £549.99 just a couple of weeks ago, now its £529.99.

Android devices hit the market at vastly overrated prices (with a few exceptions) and those prices fall quickly, that's just the way it is.

But I agree, the recent rate of reduction in the S6 price has quickened, that suggests Samsung are trying to a degree to undercut newer competition.

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  • 28 Oct 2015

the tech nerd, 28 Oct 2015Oh I saw your comments at z5 compact review too, just if you had mobile for 1-2 days you wrote... moreHow am I trying to bring down the image of the Z5??????

I got into this thread because TannHauser made claims regarding aspects of the Z5 being superior to the other competitors, and I disagreed.

Now if you go back and read my first post here you'll see I didn't disagree with all of his claims he made, just a few (mainly around the Finger Print scanner, screen and GPU performance). And as a result I got his usual abuse.

FOR THE LAST TIME THAT IS NOT TROLLING!!!!!.....it's called discussion, and if you can't differentiate between the two I would argue you have no place posting on here!!

Look either back up the claims you make towards me or get lost!!!!

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  • 28 Oct 2015

the tech nerd, 28 Oct 2015Oh I saw your comments at z5 compact review too, just if you had mobile for 1-2 days you wrote... moreAh yes that.

Look, I did buy a Z5 and only keep it for one day. Now do you think that a person who keeps a device for just one day is going to have mainly positive things to say about that device???

Also do you believe that I have as much right to comment on my negative experience with a device as someone who has a positive experience?? (please answer this)

And if so do you think that those comments constitute trolling????

and before you go off on the usual rant I get from the likes of TannHauser (who by the way posted the vast majority of the 50 reply's you mentioned) I did in that thread freely admited that my experience was limited and could have been the result of a faulty unit (you would know this if as you say you read that thread).

What I got for simply commenting on my experience are accusations of 'lying' 'trolling' and the most funny and sad at the same time 'being someone who is paid to make Sony' look bad.

The paranoia on display here is quite frankly sickening, and I will thank you all to stop accusing me of such things, in the end I cannot prove what I say is true any more than the likes of you can prove I am lying (and I sure as hell am not posting any receipts just to satisfy any paranoid lunatics), So be decent and give me the benefit of the doubt, you don't like what I say then counter it with discussion (or at least try your limited best to) and not childish accusation.

If I were trolling in the true sense of the word and not your own petty take on it, I am sure the GSMArena moderators would have picked up on this and removed my posts entirely

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Ale, 28 Oct 2015We....what??? Try and fail at what?? Look, try to start making sense and try to stop th... moreOh I saw your comments at z5 compact review too, just if you had mobile for 1-2 days you wrote around 50 replies or so just to bring down the image of z5c and now for z5

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the tech nerd, 28 Oct 2015Oh sorry my mistake , you try but you fail everytimeWe....what???

Try and fail at what??

Look, try to start making sense and try to stop throwing baseless accusations around, please

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  • 28 Oct 2015

Ale, 27 Oct 2015Again though and in addition to my previous reply, how am I trolling?????? You would have t... moreOh sorry my mistake , you try but you fail everytime

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  • 28 Oct 2015

AnonD-391800, 28 Oct 2015I just explained it to you... But you do not seem or want to get it Google iphone retina tec... moreSo you don't get level playing field?? I.e both Devices being tested rendering at the same off screen resolution and running the same graphics api, or are you just ignoring this??

And ultimately it seems you are calling me a troll simply because I disagree with you, you have produced no other evidence.

Your comments literally ooze bias, a true mark of a fanboy, that there are others on here too dopey to see that doesn't reflect well on them.

What a simple world people like you live in: 'person disagrees with me, person is therefore troll'

And It's sad that people like you hijack forums like this and spoil them.

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  • 28 Oct 2015

AnonD-442781, 28 Oct 2015I don't really know what your arguing about, but I do know the adreno 430 is better under a he... moreYeah I'm not really sure why myself either.

But I do know that the Adreno 430 is not a stronger GPU than the PowerVR in the iPhone 6S. That has been proven by countless tests including GFXbenchmark which standardises the resolution and graphics Api for a fair and level playing field.

In the end though, it doesn't really matter, on an iPhone 6S I can play games with superior graphics at a constant 60fps without the device melting into my hand, that is not something an owner of a Galaxy S6 or Xperia Z5 can say. The technical details of how this is achieved are ultimately irrelevant, it's the end result that is important.

That said I am tired of the likes of TannHauser making nonsense claims just to suit their brand based bias.

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  • 28 Oct 2015

Z5 primium is best

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  • 28 Oct 2015

z5 Premiem best phone

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  • 28 Oct 2015

Ale, 27 Oct 2015So explain how the GFXBenchmark which renders off screen at 1080p (I.e. It levels the playing ... moreI just explained it to you...
But you do not seem or want to get it
Google iphone retina tech and programming smartypants
Or should I link it too just for you

And yes, you are a troll, I do not need to explain it as much as you dont have a need to explain calling me a fanboy or an infant.

Have a nice day.

Sincerely,
TannHauser

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  • 28 Oct 2015

Z5. Boring phone design, UX and lousy camera. Doesn't worth the price tag at all.

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  • 28 Oct 2015

AnonD-442781, 28 Oct 2015Cute rant. Its a shame the later released xperia z3+ is still cheaper than the galaxy s6 ho... moreWhat I mean to say is that the galaxy s6 is the oldest phone there, and was overproduced (while the edge was underproduced, at least at first). The reason why the z3+ is cheaper than the s6 is because it became obsolete quicker with the z5, and was just simply an inferior phone, mainly due to overheating.

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Ale, 27 Oct 2015Oh god don't tell me you are basing your view on this matter solely on gflop out put?????........ moreI don't really know what your arguing about, but I do know the adreno 430 is better under a heavy load. Not sure how heavy today's games are, but I'm gonna guess it at least makes it more future proof.

At the very least its not black and white about which one's better.

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Xperia rocks, 27 Oct 2015Hmmm. Looks like Samsung is now undercutting prices to sell more units. It's predator pricing.... moreCute rant.

Its a shame the later released xperia z3+ is still cheaper than the galaxy s6 however ;)

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  • 27 Oct 2015

AnonD-391800, 27 Oct 2015You write what you suppose without any factual evidence I give gpu facts You dare to call my... moreSo explain how the GFXBenchmark which renders off screen at 1080p (I.e. It levels the playing field) still gives the solid performance advantage to the PowerVR??????

Without factual evidence???? your claiming I made all that I said in my previous post up???????

And yes I dare call your post bullsh*t, I call it like I see it.


Now I have asked more than once, please justify your repeated accusations of me trolling?? And I don't mean waffle on about gflops or some other such nonsense, look up the true definition of trolling (cause I'm pretty sure you don't know what it is already, You or the tech turd or what he calls himself) and apply it to me. You made the accusation now justify it!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • 27 Oct 2015

AnonD-391800, 27 Oct 2015You write what you suppose without any factual evidence I give gpu facts You dare to call my... moreThat sounded a bit clumsy
But point is
Ios9 games are done in lower res than are on android, therefore higher fps count with lower process power

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  • 27 Oct 2015

in my opnion the best phone is Galaxy S6, SONY did well but still the phone doesn't have quality in depth,not only to based upon tests but it does not feel premium by looks at intial expression it does feel like the Samsung Galaxy J series nothing inside but a big screen however it's not actually that way but also the software don't have anything to give it feel it is 600$+ phone,6s is nice but it's a bit smaller then it's competitors & when anybody is upgrading from an iPhone he's likely not feel if he chooses to S6.

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Alle, 27 Oct 2015I'm not sure why I'm bothering with this, you will never listen. At the launch of the LG G4... moreYou write what you suppose without any factual evidence
I give gpu facts
You dare to call my response bull# hit...
I call you bluff.

:-)
You are one of a kind wannabe smartguy troll,I ll give you that...

I ll give you another hint
You know iphone games are written in 320 x 590 pixel resolution and then upscaled with retina tech to proper screen res, so the drain on gpu is less...
That is why inferior gt7600 (250 gflop) performs better than adreno 430 (380 gflop), well, at least on iphones it does
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Sincerely yours favourite,
TannHauser

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  • 27 Oct 2015

the tech nerd, 27 Oct 2015OK let's just admit for a while that 810 GPU is less performing than others ,but it actually d... moreAgain though and in addition to my previous reply, how am I trolling??????

You would have to interpret trolling as 'not agreeing with your opinions' for your accusation to make any sense.

Is that your interpretation????

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