Xenyth, 03 Dec 2015Now, I think I can retire my old Nokia 808 PureView after 4 years!!!Not yet for me.. It's close but still behind the 808 pureview.. And the speed of 808 in taking extra large pics is a whole nother realm.. Probably by lumia 980 or 990 only they will be able to beat the 808
Kyle K., 03 Dec 2015No liquid cooling for the Lumia 950, the review is now updated. Thank you for the input! KyleRare appearances
I really don't know why Microsoft still think it has a chance against all this massive branded phones with a lot better software and OS. Just the battery lifetime is more than enough for me to dump any phone with the damn OS.
[deleted post]I don't know if you should realy count it as an disadvatage.
I would say 50/50.
Headphones that generally come with phones are not of a very good quality and don't fit or please to everyone.
The majority already have headphones and the most of the time better ones than those included.
I personnally see no reason to pay a higher price tag for this.
So I prefer to keep using my Sennheiser headphones that I already have with line-in controls and microphone and rather save a few bucks.
I hope that Kyle or someone from GSMArena will be so kind to retest Lumia 950 for battery endurance with a newer build in order to solve the problem with the current shameful battery score as this score wont reflect the reality anymore very soon. I hope so at least.
You've asked for accurate comparison with same OS and same hardware (display + CPU + GPU)?
Here it is!
What can you say about the fact that My Lumia 1020 with Windows 10 Mobile drains 30% more battery than this same phone with Windows 8.1 Moble?
AnonD-459976, 04 Dec 2015you are a paid troll .
stop repeating the same nonsense . Ho can you say, that I'm a paid troll when I just mention my observations concerning drasticly decreased battery life with Lumia 1020 vs. Lumia 1020 @ Windows 8.1 Mobile vs. Windows 10 Mobile?
This is the most accurate comparison I would say.
I can't deny the fact that using any other displays than AMOLEDs from Samsung would have given a better battery life to HTCs and Lumias, but there is also something you can gain in optimizing the software, because the AMOLED is already there and you can't do anything about it. So just the software is the only thing you can try to squeeze some more battery life from.
Just remember Windows 8 Mobile battery life, stability and smoothness and compare it to latest Windows 8.1 Mobile build and you'll have your answer on the what to expect from battery life, stability and smoothness of upcoming builds and updates of Windows 10 Mobile
AnonD-167064, 04 Dec 2015I can't totaly share your point of view in giving all the fault to the hardware, because you s... moresorry , when you compare , use the same OS okay ?
stop replying biased !
here is a perfect example :
HTC M8 Windows
Battery life : Endurance 79h , Talk 28h ,web 12h , movies 11.1h
NOW with AMOLED in Lumia 930
battery life : 46 , 16 , 5 , 5
EVEN when HTC moved to AMOLED , they GOT BAD Battery life , it seems samsung does not sell good AMOLED outside
look at the HTC A9 , they switched to AMOLED and got crappy battery life
the same TRAP from samsung !!!! they are giving them bad AMOLED !
AnonD-167064, 04 Dec 2015If you install the current Windows 10 Mobile (build 10586) on your Lumia 1520, 640 or on any o... moreI have build 10586.11 on my 630. Is this the exact build that 950 has?
Battery life is not bad on my 630. The battery life on build 10581 was way better.
Standby times have decreased.
Hope it's a software problem for the 950
And there is certainly much that Microsoft have/can (to)optimize on software level concidering that my Lumia 1020 on Windows 8.1 Mobile is 30% less power hungry than on Windows 10 Mobile and being fare more stable even if with less features and with a way more basic/raw OS UI.
I can't totaly share your point of view in giving all the fault to the hardware, because you should specify from the begining that when you're talking about hardware, you explicitly mean the display difference only.
Because if you compare Lumia 930 (46 hrs) with Sony Xperia Z Ultra (52 hrs) or Xperia Z1 (52 hrs) with the same processor and graphic card, they barely score better battery life compared to Lumia 930 and it's mainly due to their bigger battery of 3000 instead of 2400 as in Lumia 930 and not that much due to their TFT and IPS displays and this even with a more stable/mature Android OS.
So there is much you can do in optimizing things on software level.
I went to get a 950, Changed my mind once I saw the messaging area. it was very bitty, ugly and fragmented. :-(
AnonD-167064, 04 Dec 2015I think you might be wrong, because Lumia 1520 and Lumia 930 share exactly the same hardware a... moreLumia 930 has Amoled , the AMOLED Lumia are using are power hungry !
Lumia phones with IPS allways perfom better than Lumia with AMOLED screen .
you can check it !
even the 640XL is better because it uses IPS.
it seems the AMOLED they are using is very cheap
Mike Ty, 03 Dec 2015Hi everyone! Am not working for Microsoft but please let me tell you what to do regarding this... morehi,
There is a big problem about Windows phones ,
for example not all banks have applications for windows ..
not all supermarket , not all airports , airlines , reservation , not all Hotels , etc
they ALL have IOS and Android apps for their business . THATS THE BIG PROBLEM
AnonD-459976, 04 Dec 2015sorry , this is hardware related issue ! the battery life is 3 times better ! this is not a... moreI think you might be wrong, because Lumia 1520 and Lumia 930 share exactly the same hardware and Lumia 1520 with a bigger battery is doing way better.
AnonD-167064, 04 Dec 2015do you also understand, that Android is more stable and more optimized than Windows 10 Mobile ... moresorry , this is hardware related issue !
the battery life is 3 times better ! this is not a software issue !