DonAlduck, 17 Apr 2016I'm pretty impressed I have to say. I would not have expect such good (camera) features, and o... moreRecent tests have shown the P9 to perform significantly better then the US/China version Galaxy S7 Edge (with Snapdragon 820) in graphically demanding games such as NBA 2K16, due to the S7E showing overly-aggressive CPU/GPU thermal throttling which caused the game to stutter at times. The Exynos 8890 also appears to have less stable frame-rates than the Kirin 950 in certain games due to its throttling policy. It is becoming more and more clear nowadays that having higher spec and benchmark numbers don't always translate to having superior real-life performance.
Too bad most reviewers still rely solely on 3D benchmarking scores to gauge gaming performance, because that's easier to do. This in turn drives chip and phone manufacturers to prioritize on benchmarks (peak performance) rather than real life performance (sustained overall performance). This is not a good situation for users.
Because of this I applaud the Kirin 950/955's design philosophy that it achieved excellent sustained performance (see anandtech's report) while giving up peak performance numbers.
The sub-par video performance is a real downside for the P9, though. That video performance is fine for a mid-range phone, but not that fitting at flagship level.
I guess given the price, quality and feature set of this phone some corners have to be cut to make it profitable. Huawei choose to cut the corners it deemed to have the least impact for most users (e.g. 2k screen and 4k video and overpowered GPU for VR)
AnonD-507785, 16 Apr 2016Why? Why they have to up their game to match Snapdragon and Exynos models? To match the price ... more(i totally agree with you & you raise a very good point regarding the price tag & you are totally right)
Personally Speaking i just wanna a normal smartphone that i can enjoy & fully benefit from it P9 offers that & P9 plus offers more (beautiful design, good screen, good sound quality, excellent CPU/GPU, good battery life, strong signal strength "huawei devices is the best when it comes to signal strength", simple UI with no or little lag) that's all.
I'm pretty impressed I have to say. I would not have expect such good (camera) features, and overall a pretty nice quality from Huawei. I'm disappointed about one thing though... the GPU. I do not get how such a big company can't improve and build a good GPU that would keep up with the competition, if not the same or above levels, but at least to be below them on a nice rank. Can't really complain if it keeps up with current games and apps that require GPU, but it can't make descent 1080p and 4K video? That's a disappointment. Overall...Pretty good.
Good Review GSMA as always :)
AnonD-468210, 16 Apr 2016If u read my previous comments in this article I have already mentioned that P9 plus is much m... moreWhy? Why they have to up their game to match Snapdragon and Exynos models? To match the price of those phones too? Because it will happen. And if the phone runs without stutter on a setup that costs manufacturer less, which translates to lower phone prices, isn't that the win for the customers? I'm happy that Huawei sticks to sensible solition, rather than rat racing benchmarks. And trust me when I say it - at this point, there's no need for them to change anything in SoC/GPU department...and they won't. It may be a problem to you, that's fine, plenty of other choices. I'm happy with what they are offering.
AnonD-507785, 16 Apr 2016Not really. The maximum, that person with the best eye sight could see (vision 20/20, which in... moreI have no intrest in what a average person see's LOL
I can personally see the diffrence between 1080p and QHD screen at 5.5" above screen size.
Ofcource i can manage with even a 1080p screen till 6" screen but QHD is much better than 1080p
Huawei phone only use it own Kirin processor. They won't be Snapdragon.
Huawei phone is smooth since Mate 7. It still run games perfectly in FHD. They is no worried on performance and heat.
I dunno why American so demands on Snapdragon. Even Samsung Exynos is far better especially the power consumption. Samsung release nearly all running Exynos in S7 Edge and I no regret getting Exynos edition. Only few county especially USA where Samsung purposely out Snapdragon edition. Those using Exynos edition before will know Exynos is actually much better than Snapdragon.
AnonD-507785, 16 Apr 2016I think most of P9s shortcomings could have been intentional. Think about it. If they will mak... moreIf u read my previous comments in this article I have already mentioned that P9 plus is much more compelling
And the main thing I was trying to say which u guys are ignoring is that Huawei along with MediaTek needs to up their GPU department and match it to SD and Exynos
We need more competition in Android world
End users i.e we customers are at profit
Huawei has potential and Samsung and Apple has got a worthy competitor
Thing is they should correct their flaws in the upcoming phone Mate 9 may be..
Dasman, 16 Apr 2016Right... If there is a snapdragon variant of this phone it'll sell like hot pockets. Would be ... moreUnfortunately it won't happen. Well...that is if you really want Snapdragon version. They are sticking with Kirin on this one. Well...so far, there hasn't been any official word from Huawei about any other SoC variations.
AnonD-468210, 16 Apr 2016This sounds much like Apple way Don't settle for just good bro, demand f Great (Sony Xperia ... moreHaving a 20/20 vision is getting harder and harder these days. There aren't many people left with that kind of vision. I'm talking about the naked eye, not enhanced with glasses or contacts. You have to have a phone right in front of your eyes (which I doubt this is the way people use their phones) and really sharp eye (or glasses) to see pixels with 423PPI screen. Vast majority of people hold their phones in about 30cm distance. With that kind of use FHD is not a problem even on 6" screen.
AnonD-507785, 16 Apr 2016I think most of P9s shortcomings could have been intentional. Think about it. If they will mak... moreRight... If there is a snapdragon variant of this phone it'll sell like hot pockets. Would be the perfect smartphone in my eyes and many others.
AnonD-468210, 16 Apr 2016Bashing Snapdragon with Adreno all the time indicates either hatred or fanboyism for other OEM... moreI don't hate Qualcomm, I'm just super disappointed with 810 model (we all know why). And now from GSMA and Android Authority tests, they concluded, that SoC got much improved (reducing it to quad-core helped a lot), but Adreno 530 under heavy use for about half an hour heats up, stutters and is losing around 1/3 of its potential. If you think this is fine, then I guess further conversation has no point.
ethereal, 16 Apr 2016Not that they can not make a QHD or 4K device. Just that they see no point in giving their use... moreYou're right there sir. I think that too. It's not that they can't do it (hardware could pull it off), they just don't want to. Reasonable.
AnonD-468210, 16 Apr 2016B&W camera shots are really very compelling Leica delivered according to their status th... moreI think most of P9s shortcomings could have been intentional. Think about it. If they will make P9 almost flawless phone, there will be no room for P9 Plus to shine. Also it helped P9 to keep lower price. Plus will come with better screen (1080p and lack of 4K don't bother me at all), better sound, bigger battery, which will explain higher price. I think P9 Plus will sell much better than entry model.
If only this ran on Windows or another top tier OS. Seeing a new phone that's running on Android just kills all its mojo.
It's like a new car comes out. With an old 5 liter, V12 engine, producing 120 horse power. That's what using Android feels like.
ethereal, 16 Apr 2016The GPU is not too powerful is only logical for the FHD screen since FHD won't demand for much... moreThis sounds much like Apple way
Don't settle for just good bro, demand f
Great (Sony Xperia Z3 tagline lol)
And QHD isn't overkill a guy with 20-20 vision can discern pixels on even QHD screens
And reading webpages is a lot better on QHD screens
Yeah I takes its toll on Processor but on battery it's debatable because most of the phones with QHD screens score respectable battery endurance
AnonD-507785, 16 Apr 2016See? You don't even listen. What are you talking about slouch performance? They tested the pho... moreBashing Snapdragon with Adreno all the time indicates either hatred or fanboyism for other OEM
From GSMArena Mi5 Review Performance Page
"The new Snapdragon 820 chip lives up to the expectations and delivers stellar performance without depleting the battery in a flash. What's even better - the S820 is much cooler than its predecessor and won't give you headaches on games or benchmarks.
We ran the BaseMark ES 3.1 and AnTuTu, twice times each, and we found the Mi 5 to be warm, but far from unpleasant. And it cooled down in less than a minute - something impossible for the Snapdragon 810 phones."
All in all Snapdragon have upped their game this time and came a long way from scorching hot SD810
AnonD-468210, 16 Apr 2016Bro
I don't think so the hardware is that capable to handle QHD leave alone 4K resolution
... moreThe GPU is not too powerful is only logical for the FHD screen since FHD won't demand for much anyway. 4k as you know is not a deal breaker for many for now.
Regarding VR compatibility, what I understand is that only phone-less VR has got the real future. Phone assisted VRs shall go obselete in the near future so increasing phone resolution just for the sake of to be used along with the VR is pointless as many companies will realize is what I believe.
Galaxy s7 having a (slightly) better battery life is mostly because of their better optimized cpu.
ethereal, 16 Apr 2016Not that they can not make a QHD or 4K device. Just that they see no point in giving their use... moreBro
I don't think so the hardware is that capable to handle QHD leave alone 4K resolution
And I complained about resolution coz Companies are trying harder to push VR and even Huawei joined the game by launching their own headset which has an edge of 360 degree sound
And About battery life Galaxy S7 with the same amount of battery gives better endurance with QHD screen
AnonD-468210, 16 Apr 2016B&W camera shots are really very compelling
Leica delivered according to their status th... moreNot that they can not make a QHD or 4K device. Just that they see no point in giving their users an awful battery life in exchange of more PPI screens which obviously are nothing more than an overkill!
I am having a first hand experience of using a flagship device with only 720p screen with yet a champion battery endurance rating. I am talking about Xperia Z3 compact!
More PPIs on a phone are useless unless it is for VR or big sized displays. Huawei are doing the right thing in keeping the resolution under check while keeping themselves out of PPI mad race IMO.
B&W camera shots are really very compelling
Leica delivered according to their status this time Hats off
I personally liked the modes because I personal preference pics are more eye pleasing ones rather than original looking ones (I prefer shooting raw though and edit thereafter)
Plenty of night shooting modes is just awesome
My set of concerns
Huawei has launched a compelling VR with so called 360 audio
But the videos will appear too pixelised due to FHD screen but it's given away for a reason due to weaker GPU
And I don't think this gpu could have handled QHD
And even the blacks of screen is not deep enough much like mid Ranger phones have
FHD screen didn't help battery endurance like it did with MI5
And no 4k video is let down too. It's better to have that option. This is omitted due to weaker gpu only imo
P9 plus is much more compelling with the added extras like AMOLED ( personal favorite)
And guys u r not accepting the weaker GPU con and blaming instead trying to support by giving some reason
Huawei is off to make perfect device help them make by complaining about cons