Jumbo, 26 May 2016Z1C, Z3C were masterpieces for their time. I still have an Xperia P sitting around, works grea... moreWell like them or not Apple is in somewhat of a unique place in the market. I would argue that Sony fans (in the mobile market) can be every bit as fanatical as Apple's fans.....but they are far fewer in number.
Apple's huge fanbase and the loyalty it shows helps apple get away with charging over the top premium's on their devices. Sony cannot compete with Apple using those tactics.
I agree with you though the Z1C (whilst not prefect) deserves all the credit in the world for being the first truly flagship grade android product. And both the Z3 and Z3C were and still are great devices, the high point of the Z series.
Paddyman, 26 May 2016Totally agree, I was seriously considering this device but not at this price. The X performanc... moreMy thoughts exactly.....in fact that is what I did :)
Havn't regretted it either.
Guys, the double sim or the 64gb Experia X is going to be Us$519 in Taiwan. I think if you are from Taiwan its a reasonable phone to get, what do you guys think?
Lex79, 26 May 2016From a hardware and quality perspective this device delivers. For the price it is currently... moreTotally agree, I was seriously considering this device but not at this price. The X performance is not much more expensive but there is no option in the UK. £350 - £400 and I'll take one, otherwise LG g5 for £429 ! Yes please!
Lex79, 26 May 2016The best price I have seen it available for puts it at £70 over what I would consider to... moreZ1C, Z3C were masterpieces for their time. I still have an Xperia P sitting around, works great although the battery doesn't last so long anymore. :p SOny's biggest failing is a misguided impression that everyone thinks their devices are worth a significant premium. I personally feel that they are worth something of a premium, but Sony needs to realise that it's far better to sell a --better-- device at the --same-- price as competitors, rather than the same device (more or less) at a higher price. Not least of all for the sake of avoiding comparisons to Apple-sheeple, heh.
Jumbo, 26 May 2016I can't disagree that it's currently over-priced, especially the X. Though not by as much as i... moreThe best price I have seen it available for puts it at £70 over what I would consider to be the acceptable maximum retail value.
And no I cannot agree with your "Once you've used an Xperia you understand why the extra price is justified" line as I have used many Xperia devices as see nothing that justifies increased value.
Now I would list those Xperia devices I have hands on experience with, but am tired of being called a liar simply on the bases of my view of them not being as high as that of diehard Sony fans.
Lex79, 26 May 2016From a hardware and quality perspective this device delivers. For the price it is currently... moreI can't disagree that it's currently over-priced, especially the X. Though not by as much as it may seem, if you just compare features to features. Once you've used an Xperia you understand why the extra price is justified.. to an extent. Though I don't see why they couldn't price it --equally-- and thus attract ---better--- sales. Kinda seems like it would make sense, since people need to ---know--- they're good before they can put faith in the brand re: value for pricing.
Tann Hauser, 26 May 2016Aha....
Yet they continuously compare X to flagships...
Although I say that this phone has s... moreFrom a hardware and quality perspective this device delivers.
For the price it is currently at though, it does not represent good value, it really is that simple.
I notice you Sony fans (won't say fanboys as I dont want to be childishly reported every post I make) have no problems levelling heaps of criticism against the likes of Apple and HTC etc when they over price their products.
When Sony does it though, suddenly its a different story.....
You can buy flagships for what Sony are currently asking for this device. Flagships that are overall better devices and more future proof than the X.
I wouldnt really argue about the lateness of coming to the market. Had Sony released the X at less than £400, they likley would have had a hit.
Lex79, 26 May 2016Well that's kind of a silly position to take.
1. The X Performance is simply not an option ... moreAha....
Yet they continuously compare X to flagships...
Although I say that this phone has some features even better than on flagships, respectivly...
A flagship it is not.
Pricing is a moot point, as its price IS 100Â€ lower, as a midranger implies, to what those flagships were priced when released to market.
But given the tech and features inside, and being a top brand, it was expected to be more expensive then competitive mid rangers.
Someone disliking its initial price, compared to some flagship with its price already dropped by 15-20%, does not render it being "poor", "bad", etc. midranger. In fact it is one of the best. IMO the best midrange phone.
Coming to market a bit late is an argument. That is Sonys fault.
JJ , 26 May 2016GSM disadvantages posted on X review are Not relevant since all those specs are available on ... moreWell that's kind of a silly position to take.
1. The X Performance is simply not an option for many people as Sony has chosen to exclude it in many market regions.
2. (And I can't believe I am having to point something this frigging obvious out) THIS IS A REVIEW FOR THE XPERIA X....NOT....REPEAT NOT THE X PERFORMANCE!!!!
Your logic would seem to suggest that it's pointless mentioning the compromises made in any low-mid range device, as those shortcomings and missing features will be available in the flagship/high-end model.
GSM disadvantages posted on X review are Not relevant since all those specs are available on Sony X Performance flagship Beast.
abc, 25 May 2016samsung also offer similar thing like stamina mode. it turns your screen to black and white an... moreDude, Sony is superior in Stamina mode. That's why they require less battery capacity to handle multitasking.
abc, 25 May 2016why you said that we are sammy fans? dude.. i'm not samsung fanboy.
But i Know, sammy always... moreHow about last year flagships?
Read the conclusion of this article:
"Sony is ahead of the competition for the first time in years with the new Xperia Z5 Premium."
Would you be here replying if Sony did the same next IFA?
For me I wish Sony keep X Performance as their flagship for this year. It's all what I need, eventhough they might do again the same to the likes of you by bringing (X Premium). I would rather get the X Performance, because it exactly meets most consumers requirements.
So pathetic replies.
Tann Hauser, 25 May 2016The link was to prove h.265 coder( encoder/decoder) is there for video recording.
Sth some pe... moreHaha, please be honest at first the link is to prove that H.265 means it will records 4K. You were very proud about it. And youre wrong.
And then you use it to prove its better than older H.264. H265 is newer, better? Its yet to be proven.
And you said its only to prove its there for video recording? Its ok. Its better to approve it and talk about something else.
Avan Dr, 25 May 2016The tittle: Samsung's NX1: The first 4K camera to record in H.265
NX1 is 4K camera thats wh... moreThe link was to prove h.265 coder( encoder/decoder) is there for video recording.
Sth some people cant obviously understand
Grey1213, 25 May 2016What does h.625 have to do with the camera sensor?
And why are you acting like that troll ... moreIn the interests of fairness (which despite some childish claims from certain weak minded people is what I always aim for), there is no reason the X shouldn't able to record in 4k if sony deem it appropriate to enable in some future update. Much in the same way the HTC desire received the ability to record in 720p via a firmware update.
The sensor and SoC are both capable of supporting 4k capture. This H.265 debate has kind of lost its way (several pages ago in fact).
Botton line is the X like all smartphones should be viewed and reviewed in line with what it currently offers for its current price, not what it may offer in future.
And in those regards the X does not represent good value for money as more capable (overall) competitor's exist on the market now for the same or less cost.
Fanboys or not, its hard to dispute that fact.
Tann Hauser, 25 May 2016http://www.redsharknews.com/business/item/2036-samsungs-nx1-first-4k-camera-to-record-in-h265
... moreThe tittle: Samsung's NX1: The first 4K camera to record in H.265
NX1 is 4K camera thats why it records 4K. Even if sammy opted for h.264 it still records 4K. So, it isnt about the codec. H.265 has nothing to do with video recording
There is no statement that H.265 is 'only' for 4K. Or H.265 doesnt support lower res video. Ofcourse it does. Thats why low end E5 also honors also have that codec.
Lastly again it also mean sammy had choice to opted largely used H.264, but they decide to used unproven newer h.265. If sammy is the first to use h.265 in camera, and they still dont used it for their phone, it isnt anything else but they have reason. It also states H.265 video takes a LOT more computing power.
Jumbo, 25 May 2016Honestly I have to side with Tann on this one, Fanboy or not. What hardware in the Phone do yo... moreWhat does h.625 have to do with the camera sensor?
And why are you acting like that troll has a point when he keeps spamming the white paper which explicitly says the camera only records up to 1080p.
If the phone could record in 4k, then it would have said so. There is no reason for Sony to put in 4k recording and not tell anyone.
[deleted post]Honestly I have to side with Tann on this one, Fanboy or not. What hardware in the Phone do you think does the video recording? The touchscreen? No. It's the camera sensor. So of course they're related, regardless of which section of the specs GSMArena puts the feature in.
I can understand why Tann is face-palming..
On the other hand it's not the sensor unit that does the encoding anyway, so it's not a feature of the camera --or-- video, but rather the chipset. But that's the same for --any-- DSLR or other anyway, so maybe a moot point for this discussion.