Joonius, 22 Jun 2016Vertu is one of them.Of curse vertu is one of them. I was only setting a trap for you, thought you were going to say samsung and apple are the premiums minus sony. Because according to you none of them brands is doing something special. I simply would have sent a sniper at you.
--, 21 Jun 2016Lol. Best joke from sony's sale man.
Flat means if you put it in on the table... moreI am Z2 user, not a salesman, I found the competitors always bashing and trolling Sony, and as a Z2 user I have to correct them.
In normal usage my Z2 didn't get any scratches, even the body still like new.
I have use the tempered glass protect the screen and it is durable, because I drop it many times without casing.
Joonius, 22 Jun 2016I'm not defending anything if you have any sort of reading comprehension skills. What you need... moreSo there a no actual premium brands like you said. If there is any please let us know, mind you it has to be gold/diamond plated...
Whatever the comments I read hear,
I come to the conclusion that some ppl are defending Sony products too much without actually using it.
And some are bashing it without knowing it thoroughly..
Imo Sony products are good and durable(I'm having one).
But they are too Xpensive and the aftr sale service is horrible...!
Sagittarius, 21 Jun 2016Haha. Premium brands make premium products. If not all, then most of the products. Their mobil... moreI'm not defending anything if you have any sort of reading comprehension skills. What you need to defend is what you said which doesn't make any sense. No matter how much Sony wants to position their products as "premium", all parts of their devices are only on par with everyone else's products. Only real differentiating point of Sony would be the camera at this point which is looking like it will be marginally better than competition if that. The way I see it, no matter how you defend your beloved Sony, like 90% of their product is no different than what most people consider "low end brands" such as Huawei, Xiao Mi, ASUS, etc. And boy oh boy those P series, Mi series, and Zen series, are competitive in terms of both performance and pricing.
Hard fights for Sony in a disposable market. It's not like the car market where Lambo can charge half a million dollar because they can move their car super fast. Sony has no differentiating factor. There's no real "premium" offered by major OEMs in this market. I just find it hilarious that you try to justify Sony as a premium brand when they offer the same as their competition for more expensive. "Premium" would be those gold, platinum or diamond covered phones. Sony isn't any more "premium" than "Chinese brands". No offence to Chinese brands.
I don't know why everyone is still whining in this page, seems like some fanboys feel that Sony took all the HYPE. Sony is coming back in all its sectors. Who saw the previous E3 would know that Sony has already switched gears.
Great phone, thanks Sony for the premium you give. Sony is already preparing for the IFA to give its last K.O. To all competitors. Check GFXBENCH and stop hoping for Sony's loss.
Sagittarius, 21 Jun 2016And only other brands' fanboy keeps bashing and always looking for Sony's mishaps and disadvan... moreWhy bother, Sony's doing a good job of bashing their own phones before it gets a chance to release them.
61h endurance rating lolol. Clearly Sony is just throwing s#!t against the wall to see whatever sticks...
mir, 21 Jun 2016Sony has long lost its premium level of quality. Only the price is what remains premium. But f... moreAnd only other brands' fanboy keeps bashing and always looking for Sony's mishaps and disadvantages.
Joonius, 21 Jun 2016That's very interesting actually. So you put overpriced and premium brand in same argument. In... moreHaha. Premium brands make premium products. If not all, then most of the products. Their mobile department may not be satisfying to those so-called tech-savvy, pretending to be tech-savvy, and hungry individuals but to others they are good with it. Tho all of us disagrees with their pricing. But Im sorry. Did I hurt your feelings by saying that Sony is a premium brand? Like no matter how you defend your brand, still it wont become a premium brand. Fanboy or not, so what? You yourself is also a...fanboy!
Tann Hauser, 21 Jun 2016You again...
I have a link twice with X Perf scoring condecutive 137 and 139k on antutu.
Ty... moreEven if that were true, it's still beaten by both the HTC 10 and Onplus 3 which both score as much as 150,000, But whatever......
And yes you have said that the S7 was crap, if I could be bothered going back through the 1000's of your gibberish posts I would quote you directly.
But who cares eh, DXOMark are going to score the X series whatever they see fit, and if that's higher than the current number 1's, then your no doubt going to do your usual nauseous 'I told you Sony are best routine' over and over again.
I still see you for the brand obsessed hypocrite you are though, and debating you????.....now that is a joke, debating fanboys like yourself is an entirely pointless endeavour.
Dual heatpipes, 21 Jun 2016Apple protect its lens with sapphire which is stronger than gorilla glass because it camera le... moreLol. Best joke from sony's sale man.
Flat means if you put it in on the table, it touches the table's surface. And you said it wont be easily scratched in normal use?
Sony = overprice bad design with cheap Plastic camera.
Lex79, 21 Jun 2016I'm a little confused, the X-P scores lower than other 820 based mainstream devices in Antutu,... moreYou again...
I have a link twice with X Perf scoring condecutive 137 and 139k on antutu.
On camera, never said s7 and htc crap, just X Perf better, and provided links for evidence.
Again typically you. ...
Dxo mark are most proffesional camera testers, as proven and provided in their most detailed reviews of all,
Dxo uses a standardized acclaimed software program for testing, called dxo(get it), not subjective assesment...
So really, guys like you and gray should really make an effort to inform yourselves first before debating me.
Tann Hauser, 21 Jun 2016So if it suits you numbers are objective, if it doesnt they are subjective....
Typical for a ... moreNo, the objective numbers are objective. The subjective ones are subjective. Unfortunately you can't tell the difference.
I rate the xperia x 6/10. Since I used a number, is it suddenly objective? No.
MaxPayne123, 21 Jun 2016Couldn't agree more. I no longer see Sony phones in people's hands anymore. Those who are usin... moreIf you phone is not broken/lag/problematic, you do not need to show your expensive new phone.
Lol, 19 Jun 2016Lol. Samsung aleady has better design than sony. Sony must learn from samsung. Especially tha... moreApple protect its lens with sapphire which is stronger than gorilla glass because it camera lens is a protrude king need a shield to protect from scratches, Samsung reduce the protrude of the camera lens but protrude is still there. Sony camera lens is flat, in normal usage it wouldn't easy get scratched, just like my Z2, unless you want to scratch it by using a knife, but normally people won't do that stupid test.
Grey1213, 21 Jun 2016Its not speculation. You can see where the numbers come from. And you'd see they come from the... moreI'm a little confused, the X-P scores lower than other 820 based mainstream devices in Antutu, so why is TannHauser saying it's the best overall performer?
Also you might notice Tann's hypocrisy regarding DXOMark, you see he holds them in very high regard as evidenced by his line "Dxo mark is the most composite and proffesional camera tester,"
And yet even though they have given the current number one spot to both the S7 and HTC, Tann's opinion of regarding the camera's of both devices is still that they are essentially cr*p.
The fact that he can think so highly of a particular test site one minute and then be so dismissive of their findings the next is nothing but pure hypocrisy!