Woww. Someone said earlier that the idea of underclocked SD821 is to get better battery.. plus this one has 200mah more battery than mi5 and it gets only 84h battery rating while mi5 92!?!?! Wtf? Funny facts or not? :D and I've been waiting for bigger battery so long ohh
Nick.B, 26 Oct 2016source?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrUkySM8zGY
and other chinese sites you can search
imx258 dual sensor is the cheapest dual sensor available and it has no chance against imx378.
p9 has imx286 for example.
Browndynamite.., 25 Oct 2016It's a little disappointing. Xiaomi is slowly following suit - excluding the minor features li... moreWho on Earth uses IR blaster anyways. They realised that. Samsung also ralised it after S6
alirezaasol, 25 Oct 2016unfortunately mi5s low light performance is better than mi5s+source?
Ritzie, 25 Oct 2016I think they held back on implementing proper flagship hardware for these as they are releasin... morewrong because mi5s is much cheaper than note 2. Different price categories. So no compromises on both devices. You pay what you get. Simple as that.
Btw for me (prev owner of s7edge) the mi5s plus is s7edge killer for exactly half the price. That's 50% cheaper for god sa*e. Keep the brilliant work Xiami and regarts for your second place in world sales.
The review comes too late for me, but I'm glad I made the right decision. The Mi5s does not feel like an upgrade for me. The only positive thing is the more durable build.
I'll stick with my glass cannon, aka Mi5. Why? OIS, better battery life, and most important, better sound quality. I mean, seriously, it's a frigging flagship and it has a noise floor of -84db?
Like, really? I had the Xperia M2 which had lower noise floor than Mi5s, and it was still distinctly present on quiet music passages, or when no music was running at all. That's the biggest fail in Mi5s for me, as I listen to music daily and for long periods of time.
Sure, many people just listen to dynamically compressed music that simply has no quiet passages, but that's not what I mostly listen to.
The camera on the Mi5s is better, especially in low light conditions, but the lack of OIS just kills it. Overall, it seems they sacrificed too much to get the metal build and still meet the price bracket. Had they kept all the nice stuff from the Mi5 and added the metal build, I wouldn't have minded paying a bit more for it. But like this? Nah. Glass cannon it is.
ok great phone all you need is stock OS with monthly security updates and google camera app
It yet has to be seen if this time they offer a version with LTE Band 20 support
I love the Xiaomi Mi 5, best phone I have ever owned. I pay close attention to bulk, having tried several phone sizes up to the 6 inch Huawei Mate 7. The Mi 5 is the perfect size and weight for my smallish hands. From that point of view, the Mi 5S is a step backward - a bit wider, taller and heavier. Battery life is my other main criterion and again, the Mi 5 is better than the 5S. So, no upgrade here for me. Unfortunately, OEM's are hooked on adding bells and whistles that are often gimmicks that appeal to a minority but take away from solid basics so I am doubtful that the upcoming Mi 6 will meet my criteria and be superior to the Mi 5. Waiting to see.
it uses very high iso in dark situations in both photo and video
compare it with nexus 6p in photo compare tool ! 2000 against 743
same story for video recording...
adding ois was good for extra 10 15 $
Alex, 25 Oct 2016Can we please get a review of the plus version as well? I would really like to see if the dual... moreYes, of course, the 5s Plus is here and the review is in the pipeline.
And there is no Gorilla Glass 4 on the Mi 5s, it's not mentioned anywhere on the official sites. Even better, MIUI team member has confirmed there is no Gorilla Glass on the Mi 5s.
MIUI 8 is probably the reason why Mi 5s got a worse endurance rating than Mi 5, even though it has +200mAh larger battery. A lot of users are reporting battery issues on their Mi 5 after an upgrade: http://www.gsmarena.com/newscomm-20107.php
Should be fixed in future updates.
Can we please get a review of the plus version as well? I would really like to see if the dual camera setup improves low light photos
Any site that will try to force me to turn ad block off it will be the last time I visit the page... bye.
exia000, 25 Oct 2016LOL, U mad? Why? Mi5 was a masterpiece, BUT its body is FRAGILE, as both back & front are ... moreBig argument here... Anyway
You mention over 3 times better selfie cam,which by all means is not true!They had the same 4mp selfie cam.
Better SoC? Hardly.There is no meaningful diff between the two,like it or not.
Much better main camera? Would'nt agree.In medium to good light MI5 camera is equal if not better than Mi5s.In low light,I still could'nt see that much advantage of Mi5s.
And yes OIS is important no matter how hard you manipulate about that,that's a fact your words not.
"Seamlessly hidden in the body of the phone, a 3D sensor performs at a higher speed, is accurate and durable. The sensor rests under the 2.5D screen Gorilla Glass 4. Consequently, an additional on-screen slot is no longer required."
This describtion is about "xiaomi mi 5s" from official website of xiaomi.
ethereal, 25 Oct 2016Please stop with your excuses! Mi5 s can not be said a great upgrade especially for those who ... moreLOL, U mad? Why? Mi5 was a masterpiece, BUT its body is FRAGILE, as both back & front are covered with glass.
"Mi5 s can not be said a great upgrade especially for those who are coming from Mi5."
WHEN did I ever said GREAT UPGRADE? U are saying BULLSHIT to make me look like the bad guy here.
I said Mi5s is MUCH BETTER in many aspects than Mi5; metal body, newer back camera sensor & UltraPixel front camera, newer SD821, sold at half the price of Pixel, HTC 10, and Xperia XZ!
FYI, Mi5s upgrade from glass to plastic is BRILLIANT!
No need to worry u might drop ur device and get the back glass shatter!
BETTER back camera; the similar one used in Pixel, so just wait for MIUI camera update to fix the problem mentioned in the review, and MUCH BETTER front camera.
BTW, the only one that complaining the absences of OIS in Mi5s might be can't even take good photos without any stabilizing soft. Like I said before, just think that this to cut the production cost.
BETTER front camera; UltraPixel really is the answer for front camera, not ridiculous 16MP front camera like O**o did, while eqipped the the back one with less performing 13MP ones.
"IR was xiaomi's signature from previous many generations."
Then just buy Xiaomi Redmi or Redmi Note series, u TROLL!
I don't think I ever need to say this, buy day by day, there are changes made by phone makers, including omitting feature that they think omittable.
See that Samsung did this too in their flagship Note series before?
That's why don't start whining and talk CRAP just because u don't find ur fav IR blaster in Mi series!
RedMi series still has one and u can buy that one instead, but with no flagship feature whatsoever.
"OIS is better than EIS anyday, since it helps with the stills too unlike EIS which helps reducing shakes only in videos"
OIS or EIS is ultimately a stabilizer soft to minimize shakes done by ur hands. People with GOOD photography skill won't whine when they find their device doesn't have OIS. Only people like u whine about anything that Mi5s lacks and make a big deal out of it.
In short, u don't like it, then wait for Mi6, don't start whining!
"For the same reason, I have ordered for myself the Mi5 instead over Mi5 s, as the IR and better battery were the most important features for me those I required"
People like u are the last thing I want to deal with. We don't care what Mi series u bought and reason why u bought it, but don't say CRAP.
Mi5s is BETTER than Mi5 in the 3 main aspects; body, camera & SoC.
So if u prefer IR blaster on FRAGILE device, suit urself, as long as u don't talk CRAP!