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I hope this article and others like it will finally succeed in drilling into the ignorant's brain that the different chipsets aren't significantly better than the other in real world performance.
- Anonymous
- 6jr
Anony, 07 Feb 2017So SD625 is much faster than SD652/SD650??Geekbench 3 is a bad test. They should have gone with Geekbench 4.
In there it's very palpable how bad Qualcomm *actually* is (barely breaking the 4k point all the while the rest was battling for 6k last year).
I hope they redo the test but using Geekbench 4 this time around. Also please add single core charts as well as more custom workloads (like SpecInt or phoronix's very own bench suitel
- Mark
- FMY
I love this article, I've known a lot of things about SoCs. :)
- consumersmartphone
- K5u
alexv, 08 Feb 2017Excellent article! But i don't agree with the multi core benchmark. For example the S625 is wa... moreBoth single core or multi core performance is important for some/many purpose(s). Yes I little bit confuse why they just show comparison in multi core only. What you need most? Strong single core performance or optimal multi core performance? That one of the main point of choosing SoC.
- Qwerty2017
- 61q
MG7, 07 Feb 2017Who manufactures SoCs for qualcom ,mediatek and hisillicon ?I don't know about Qualcomm, but MediaTek & Hisilicon are Fablesssemicondutor company, which means they manufacture their SoCs by themselves, that's the only reason for Mediatek so that they can sell their SoCs for cheap & mass-produced it in high volume whenever a company wants to use their SoC for their device.
For Hisilicon, I believed so because Huawei's optimization of software & hardware is the key for their success in selling phones all over the world, albeit their expensive price tag. By using in-house SoC, they can optimized the software to fully take advantage over the hardware (CPU & GPU), therefore making a better performing device, yet still power-efficient, similar to Apple's iphone business.
- jai1997
- X{%
Why there are no chipset designed by apple such as the a series...the apple a10 is the one of the best even beating kirin and snapdragon with long margin.
- Anonymous
- 61q
Anonymous, 08 Feb 2017Shows how good the SD430 in NOKIA 6 is.. Better than SD801This shows how DUMB u are over millions of people who reads GSMArena articles.
SD430 is a SoC released in 2016, have 8CORES cortex A53 (64-bit) with 28nm LP fabrication and have newer Adreno 505 GPU, which means it has the LATEST & NEWEST technology developed over during 2 YEARS GAP of SD801.
SD801 is a SoC released in 2014, have 4core Krait 400 (32-bit) with 28nm HPm fabrication which is now used by MediaTek to make CHEAP yet GREAT SoC and have old yet still powerful Adreno 330 GPU. In EVERY tech-literate eyes, SD801 is 5x better than SD430 or even SD625 by miles, both SD801 CPU & GPU are still quite powerful compared to the likes of Adreno 505/506 craps, that's why Oneplus one STILL use SD801 in their first device, although SD805 is already released at that time.
So, keep your mouth shut if u know nothing about SoC!
It will only makes u like a troll or Nokia fanboys who "HAPPY" to buy CRAPPY OVERPRICED Nokia 6 crap while there are TONS of BETTER device with the similar price of Nokia 6
- Kangal
- uCX
Okay, gsmarena staff and readers, I will help you out with this comparison:
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/liliputing/qualcomm_says_arm_chips_will_support_legacy_win32_software_in_2017/#comment-3041921851
Chip type/name____Performance metric___Power drain___Overall efficiency rating
ARM 11___________75___________________889_______________88
Cortex A5________(100%)________________222_______________450
Snapdragon S1____105________________1,050_____________(100%)
Cortex A8_________120________________1,091_______________110
Snapdragon S2____125________________1,087_______________115
Cortex A7_________130_________________260________________500
Cortex A32________140_________________255________________550
Cortex A9_________165________________1,320_______________125
Cortex A35________170__________________293_______________580
Cortex A53________190__________________409_______________465
Krait 300__________215________________1,344_______________160
Cortex A12________225________________1,154_______________195
Apple A7__________240________________1,091_______________220
Krait 400__________255________________1,275_______________200
Cortex A15________270________________2,077_______________130
Cortex A17________275________________1,222_______________225
Krait 450__________280________________1,217_______________230
Apple A8__________315________________1,068_______________295
Atom X7-8750_____320________________1,280_______________250
Cortex A57________375________________1,364_______________275
Apple A9__________390________________1,083_______________360
Kryo 100__________465________________1,329_______________350
Cortex A72________480________________1,352_______________355
Cortex A73________490________________1,289_______________380
Intel Core M7______600________________2,000_______________300
...now when it comes to the GPU, that's a whole seperate thing!
(let alone things like quality, power, efficiency, of other units in a System-on-a-Chip like 4G radio, GPS, DSP, Gyro, barometer etc etc)
- Anonymous
- IV8
Shows how good the SD430 in NOKIA 6 is.. Better than SD801
- Kangal
- uCX
How can you consciously put the QSD Snapdragon 625 ahead of the Exynos 7420 ?!?!
Let alone the QSD 650, 652, and 808.
At best, it is trading blows with ye olde QSD 805 and 801.
That HUGE omission makes this "guide" very suspicious, and easy to disregard as a work of a layman.
- AnonD-60910
- 0TI
I would love to see other articles like this one. For example one about the type of internal memory used by manufacturers. Or the ram and how beneficial would it be to have more or not.
Anyway I loved this article.
Many things I knew because I try to remain in up to date from your articles, but there were also things that I didn't knew and that I read today for the first time. I'd love that this article would be updated from time to time with the new chipset comming in the future.
Thanks the Gsmarena Team :)
- Anonanoymoususes
- RIG
higher is better .... more core more ram more pixel more more mah more and more and more and more
- Comte AUGUST
- 8Qm
Very good initiative! Very useful to me. Thanks
- alexv
- nm5
Excellent article! But i don't agree with the multi core benchmark. For example the S625 is way ahead of the the S808/650 while in reality the two can crush it in single core performance.
- AnonD-640202
- HFe
Although it takes long time to gather relevant material next to each other to fulfil the article (which I personally admire the task and spent energy for good), there is a forgotten shortage, which must be in focus.
Following interaction which directly impact the final performance in any architecture since 2003.
1- RAM(controller) directly with Storage.
2- RAM with CPU.
3- RAM with GPU.
4- CPU next to GPU.
5- GPU toward Display resolution and size.
A Good CPU in Architecture As Kirin 955 was/is, with poor choice of limited cores in Mali-T880 Graphics section inside SoC, results in weak render in high scale toward its rival with more cores and lower number in CPU performance.
Numbers must be relevant to public. Technical calculation for each and every SoC's performance, is not just based on commercial benchmarks which mostly pass tests in laboratory condition.
Fact:
A phone with MSM8960 [ (2X1.5GHz) Krait + Adreno 225 ], last December in Siberia celebrated its 4th birthday fully functional and healthy. Its pair which was sent to Kuwait City, suffered from heart attack in its first summer (2013-06). When the Handset in Kuwait City becomes hot, The display freeze occur along top left corner that reaches maximum 40 degree Celsius, until you either Soft reset or wait to be out of juice.
Cause:
A day in Summer both phones were left out under the direct sunlight, which the direction of Sun for Siberia regarding day time and normal temperature there, was highest and in Kuwait City, Sun was not hot regarding local factors. After 45 minutes under the sun, a tycoon game which was heavy in contents, was started. Both Cities in the game were built the same. 50 minutes later, when battery was only 10 percent, the user in Siberia closed the app with capacitive keys, and opened the battery monitor app to see details of usage.
The user in Kuwait City on the other hand, find the handset's touch screen and capacitive keys unresponsive; he then swapped every possible thing with new tested one, the result was nothing, except keep away the phone from heat(above 10 degree Celsius); the phone still works when it is cool under 10 degree in refrigerator.
When graphic thirsty apps are closed, even in summer times the touch is responsive for short time such as calling and messaging.
When connecting to the web, opening a game, watching a movie or even viewing a photo for One minute, it freezes and becomes unresponsive.
Workload in a SoC is separated by CPU, GPU, RAM. Ideal condition is Cold, Cool, Warm, Hot.
By doing tests in CCWH, the raw performance of a SoC will turn into real world performing chart.
- rrhyme
- HjB
Processor nowadays are good enough, even in low-tiers...SD430, SD625, Helio X20 is very power-efficient yet still have a good processing power... SD835, Kirin 960 , A10 all powerful yet still gives good, if not amazing battery life... It's all down to preferences of what other feature in the smartphone we looking for..
- Anonymous
- nC3
AnonD-510098, 07 Feb 2017Qualcomm isnt all that anymore. Looking at the table, the Kirin 960 chipset is more powerful t... moreYou are good example of an incompetent, like the vast majority of people. Most people just look for the highest number they can find then they make assumptions based on that. They don't care abut the fact that the highest score shows only the multi core performance, when all cores used at 100%. But in real life usage it will never happen, you will never get the benefit of using all cores at 100%. However, most of the time only 1 or 2 cores are used at 100%. Most apps and games are single threaded, therefore the single core performance is the most important. The best examples are the emulators (DosBox, PPSSPP).
Also, don't forget about the overheating and throttling which means you will get lower performance as the CPU is heating during usage.
- AnonD-411204
- 8IA
AnonD-510098, 07 Feb 2017Qualcomm isnt all that anymore. Looking at the table, the Kirin 960 chipset is more powerful t... moreWell, don't know about monopoly, but internal core development (Kryo and its SD830 incarnation) came to an abrupt end (and I guess horribly within QC confines). The decision to go to with the new semi-custom ARM-core licensing is a tell-tale that original Kryo was fat and power-thirsty even for 10nm compared to A72/73 & A53.
Also author talks about A53 as the only ultra-efficient 64-bit core, then shows a slide mentioning Cortex-A35 and A32. BTW, A53 is less power efficient than A7 at the same node and workload (outside of course of AES and SHA), which is why A35 and A32 exist.
- Eske Rahn
- 3I{
Nice Article. :)
I tried to comment that all the charts with same label should have the label include the clockspeed. But the info is already there on mouse over.... Now why did I not think of that in the first place *LOL*.
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