Bunyip22, 15 May 2017http://imgur.com/a/knpR3
Interesting that you never post this link.
XZP is terrible in th... moreWhy thank you for sharing.
Yep, IMO XZ is best here.
Same as here:
Great automode this phone has in lowlight, even at higher exposure keeps great detail, dynamic range and color, with well controlled noise and less noise supression artefacts. Could use a bitmore contrast tho.
And at dusk there, just wow. Great detail, true color, great dynamic range.
XZ Prem is a beast at lowlight.
Tann Hauser, 15 May 2017So if I say Sony was most innovative in the last year or so that passed...
introducing ldac... moreYes, 90% of those are gimmicks, the opposite of innovation.
Innovation on phones is to make them more usable. Riddling them with bezels and small battery is what will definitely impact most users.
960fps video is something that noons is going to use, as well as front autofocus considering that the focal point of front cameras is always in about the same distance.
That's what I'm calling a middling company. One that pationately cares about things that don't matter.
Also despite all those "innovations" many agree with me that the camera performance is nothing spectacular. Goes to show that fixating on camera performance is never too good of an idea because the results are rarely as you want them.
Lastly the 4k monitor on phones is probably one of the worst ideas ever. It wastes resources for absolutely no reason. You cannot really see the added pixels unless and until you get too close for your own health's sake.
Being able to do something is not synonymous with having to do it.
GrumpyHumpyBrother, 15 May 2017Oh really?
Then let's talk about low light. As a Sony fan, I won't deny it - XZ Premium's low... moreYour point regarding Samsung's over sharpening is fair enough, but I would suggest Sony has a similar problem coming from the opposite direction.
Due to the high mp count on what is still a fairly small sensor, Sony rely on aggressive software noise reduction to ensure that the noise resulting form all those pixels crammed so tightly together is kept under control. I would say they don't do a good enough job. Pics from an Xperia are not pretty at all cropped in.
Also I doubt a pro photographer would pic either an Xperia or a Samsung for smartphone photography purposes, more likely they would choose a modern iPhone as the best compromise, and as it has access to powerful on device editing tools (through services like mobile version of adobe lightroom). When a pro would consider using a smartphone that is......
And again a pro would likely take one look at that camera ui and its clumsy/limited excuse for a manual mode and pass anyway.
Saurav Ghosh, 15 May 2017There's no news there really. That's what Sony is. Producing phones with poor cameras year aft... moreYou're blind and you need eye doctor ! It's the worst Camera ?? Realy?? just 960 fps is Enough to beats other phones ... go read DXO mark Sony phones are in top 3.
Slow motion 720p@960fps just for 5 seconds is very very short length
Saurav Ghosh, 15 May 2017There's no news there really. That's what Sony is. Producing phones with poor cameras year aft... moreUtter tosh. So far from any semblence of reality that one wonders if you actually read the review or looked at the samples before posting.
Yes at a 200% crop you see noise at pixel level but there are more pixels in a frame so you have to crop much further in to see the noise (which is what GSMs software automatically does). Crop identically to the competition and you'll see 2 things: the noise disappears and the detail is higher. The colours are also the most accurate and the general composition is far more natural.
These are things that professional photographers actually WANT.
Rey, 15 May 2017Why do gsmarena not included a review or test of actual quality of LTE signal reception indoor... moreThe modem supports 4x4 MIMO and 4x carrier aggregation, so access to a network and speed Â— even in weak signal conditions Â— are rarely a concern, source:
Anonymous, 15 May 2017It's not a lie to say that Sony hardly upgrades her phones. It's demonstratably true. I honest... moreThis comment confuses me - 2 years ago nobody had tried a 4k screen, let along 4K plus HDR. 2 Years ago Sony was still using the 23mp sensor with 3 layers, now it's got a superior 19mp with built in RAM (a first on a smartphone). They've also installed industry leading battery monitoring and management software in their latest phones. 2 years ago they were using 3 "axis" video stabilisation, not they're using 5 "axis" stabilisation - which even the most ardent Sony haters here must admit results in the best video stabilisation on any mobile phone.
Sony haven't exactly been napping.
Hoffmann, 15 May 2017It doesn't even need to be dark, this camera takes awful pictures in day-light too. Just try a... moreThere's no news there really. That's what Sony is. Producing phones with poor cameras year after year. That's why no one buys a Sony of late. A company in coma, surviving based on some typical fanboys.
Awful camera samples. Worst samples I've seen in a while. And that's just covering the camera. Considering everything quite possibly one of the worst phone available.
GrumpyHumpyBrother, 15 May 2017Sorry to disappoint you, but apparently both of them loses to the S8
Interesting that you never post this link.
XZP is terrible in these low light photos...
Anonymous, 15 May 2017The phone that defeat the king pixel in camera:
youtube.com/watch?v=FvhAHwb9V-sSorry to disappoint you, but apparently both of them loses to the S8
And the XZ Premium kills the S8
But I am 100% sure you won't click any of them, because you're blind of seeking the truth.
Anonymous, 15 May 2017It's not a lie to say that Sony hardly upgrades her phones. It's demonstratably true. I honest... moreBlind hater don't you see the first 4K display smartphone is made by Sony, the world first 960fps the stacked dram with predictive capture feature is made Sony, the Samsung is well bragging 1000fps but you never see they have done.
Hoffmann, 15 May 2017It doesn't even need to be dark, this camera takes awful pictures in day-light too. Just try a... moreOh really?
Then let's talk about low light. As a Sony fan, I won't deny it - XZ Premium's low light capability still has a lot to be desired, but let me throw back the same observation to you, the S8 can't provide a much much better image either.
See this? http://imgur.com/gallery/7Uffp
And going back to daylight, don't make me laugh of saying a 12mp 1/2.5" sensor would provide more resolution than a 19mp 1/2.3" sensor.
Don't fool yourself, because Samsung tries so hard to oversharpen everything to compensate for the lack of detail. Sure the XZ Premium won't match high end full frame sensor digital cameras, but one thing for sure is that it's the best daylight smartphone camera shooter today, hands down.
Ask a professional photographer of which will they choose between the XZ Premium and S8/S8+ for daylight shooting, and I'll bet $1000 - he/she will prefer the XZ Premium because of natural detail rendering vs. Samsung's horrible detail enhancing algorithm that gives off the ugly halos on objects.
And you may ask me why I'm only using the S8/S8+ as a comparison reference, but that's for every people's purpose as the S8/S8+ literally has the best camera in the world where the XZs/XZ Premium doesn't exist.
Mind you, this new camera hardware just needs more practice, but once nailed by Sony, will be totally unmatched. Every new Sony IMX sensor only needs refinements before achieving the full capacity, just like how every phones often get better and better with newer updates.
The phone that defeat the king pixel in camera:
Anonymous, 15 May 2017It's not a lie to say that Sony hardly upgrades her phones. It's demonstratably true. I honest... moreAs a Sony fan, we have reasons to stay. We don't look on the most innovation, we just buy Sony cause we trust on their products. And I don't find any better options to choose too. I dont like Samsung and Apple, I dont like Chinese phones and Google/Nexusphones(which I trust) is not available. I dont really like LG but when I used one, I appreciated it but not quite was pleased as Sony though. So dont be judgeful of why we still buy the company that gave up on innovation.I dont think many people would understand this but it's my honest opinion about Sony. As long as it is around, I'd continue buying their products.
Arccosinus, 15 May 2017Once againe absolutely awful camera perfomance in the dusk and nightRight, because the S8 and every other phones can defeat high end full frame sensor digital cameras. XZ Premium isn't the best low light shooter IN AUTO, but proper Manual settings will surely blow anything else away.
S8 barely did much better than the XZ Premium tbf
Arccosinus, 15 May 2017Once againe absolutely awful camera perfomance in the dusk and nightNot so sure abiut your objectivity.
XZ prem vs S7 vs iph7 in dusk lowlight:
XZ seems the best one here.
Arccosinus, 15 May 2017Once againe absolutely awful camera perfomance in the dusk and nightIt doesn't even need to be dark, this camera takes awful pictures in day-light too. Just try and zoom in, you'll see a lot of noise. I hoped Sony would nail it with the camera this year, but nope !