Anonymous, 15 May 2017It's not a lie to say that Sony hardly upgrades her phones. It's demonstratably true. I honest... moreThis comment confuses me - 2 years ago nobody had tried a 4k screen, let along 4K plus HDR. 2 Years ago Sony was still using the 23mp sensor with 3 layers, now it's got a superior 19mp with built in RAM (a first on a smartphone). They've also installed industry leading battery monitoring and management software in their latest phones. 2 years ago they were using 3 "axis" video stabilisation, not they're using 5 "axis" stabilisation - which even the most ardent Sony haters here must admit results in the best video stabilisation on any mobile phone.
Sony haven't exactly been napping.
Hoffmann, 15 May 2017It doesn't even need to be dark, this camera takes awful pictures in day-light too. Just try a... moreThere's no news there really. That's what Sony is. Producing phones with poor cameras year after year. That's why no one buys a Sony of late. A company in coma, surviving based on some typical fanboys.
Awful camera samples. Worst samples I've seen in a while. And that's just covering the camera. Considering everything quite possibly one of the worst phone available.
GrumpyHumpyBrother, 15 May 2017Sorry to disappoint you, but apparently both of them loses to the S8
Interesting that you never post this link.
XZP is terrible in these low light photos...
Anonymous, 15 May 2017The phone that defeat the king pixel in camera:
youtube.com/watch?v=FvhAHwb9V-sSorry to disappoint you, but apparently both of them loses to the S8
And the XZ Premium kills the S8
But I am 100% sure you won't click any of them, because you're blind of seeking the truth.
Anonymous, 15 May 2017It's not a lie to say that Sony hardly upgrades her phones. It's demonstratably true. I honest... moreBlind hater don't you see the first 4K display smartphone is made by Sony, the world first 960fps the stacked dram with predictive capture feature is made Sony, the Samsung is well bragging 1000fps but you never see they have done.
Hoffmann, 15 May 2017It doesn't even need to be dark, this camera takes awful pictures in day-light too. Just try a... moreOh really?
Then let's talk about low light. As a Sony fan, I won't deny it - XZ Premium's low light capability still has a lot to be desired, but let me throw back the same observation to you, the S8 can't provide a much much better image either.
See this? http://imgur.com/gallery/7Uffp
And going back to daylight, don't make me laugh of saying a 12mp 1/2.5" sensor would provide more resolution than a 19mp 1/2.3" sensor.
Don't fool yourself, because Samsung tries so hard to oversharpen everything to compensate for the lack of detail. Sure the XZ Premium won't match high end full frame sensor digital cameras, but one thing for sure is that it's the best daylight smartphone camera shooter today, hands down.
Ask a professional photographer of which will they choose between the XZ Premium and S8/S8+ for daylight shooting, and I'll bet $1000 - he/she will prefer the XZ Premium because of natural detail rendering vs. Samsung's horrible detail enhancing algorithm that gives off the ugly halos on objects.
And you may ask me why I'm only using the S8/S8+ as a comparison reference, but that's for every people's purpose as the S8/S8+ literally has the best camera in the world where the XZs/XZ Premium doesn't exist.
Mind you, this new camera hardware just needs more practice, but once nailed by Sony, will be totally unmatched. Every new Sony IMX sensor only needs refinements before achieving the full capacity, just like how every phones often get better and better with newer updates.
The phone that defeat the king pixel in camera:
Anonymous, 15 May 2017It's not a lie to say that Sony hardly upgrades her phones. It's demonstratably true. I honest... moreAs a Sony fan, we have reasons to stay. We don't look on the most innovation, we just buy Sony cause we trust on their products. And I don't find any better options to choose too. I dont like Samsung and Apple, I dont like Chinese phones and Google/Nexusphones(which I trust) is not available. I dont really like LG but when I used one, I appreciated it but not quite was pleased as Sony though. So dont be judgeful of why we still buy the company that gave up on innovation.I dont think many people would understand this but it's my honest opinion about Sony. As long as it is around, I'd continue buying their products.
AnonD-660652, 15 May 2017Once againe absolutely awful camera perfomance in the dusk and nightRight, because the S8 and every other phones can defeat high end full frame sensor digital cameras. XZ Premium isn't the best low light shooter IN AUTO, but proper Manual settings will surely blow anything else away.
S8 barely did much better than the XZ Premium tbf
AnonD-660652, 15 May 2017Once againe absolutely awful camera perfomance in the dusk and nightNot so sure abiut your objectivity.
XZ prem vs S7 vs iph7 in dusk lowlight:
XZ seems the best one here.
AnonD-660652, 15 May 2017Once againe absolutely awful camera perfomance in the dusk and nightIt doesn't even need to be dark, this camera takes awful pictures in day-light too. Just try and zoom in, you'll see a lot of noise. I hoped Sony would nail it with the camera this year, but nope !
Once againe absolutely awful camera perfomance in the dusk and night
Anonymous, 15 May 2017The amount of people commenting for or against a position doesn't matter. It's the merits of i... moreSo if I say Sony was most innovative in the last year or so that passed...
5 axis stabilisation on both front and back camera,
autofocus on front camera
stacked dram camera sensor,
4k hdr screen,
battery care that prolongs its endurance to 2 years
UI optimisations that put efficiency of eMmc5 memory and 4 gb ram on par with ufs2.1 and 6gb ram....
youd call me a "flat earther" none the less?
Anonymous, 15 May 2017Since you already know some comments are bad, no need to respond to them, otherwise you will s... moreOther than being a time waster, I often like to roast people.
Seems like every hater I talk to, feel roasted deep inside.
I don't reply to all, but I got nothing to waste my time with, and nothing interests me more, so replying here makes me feel less bored.
[deleted post]Well, we should...ignore their bull, or...
reply with some actual factual compares and stuff to contra their bull...
I tried with lowlight camera compares...
And yt compares.
It doesnt work.
They are still at their hate/bull, no matter what....
So I keep repeating my opinion at least based on some compares, , while they keep repeating their "crap", "lousy", "no good" opinions, based on nadda.
Its a stale.
I only hope unbiased people can make their own opinion on who is actually exagerrating, us pros or them cons.
Tann Hauser, 15 May 2017Id say there are about 80% pro XZ Premium, and about 20% contra commenters here... The amount of people commenting for or against a position doesn't matter. It's the merits of individual arguments that should be judged.
In ancient Greece time land dwellers thought that the earth was flat (heck some do to this day) and they were numerous, probably the vast majority. But earth was never flat. The popularity of an argument doesn't make it true.
Even if it was to be unpopular to say that Sony does not really invest in her mobile department (thanfuly it is not) it would still be true, because by theur own admission it's not one of their primary businesses. Now if you want to support a company that doesn't give much thought to their products be my guest, many of us would be endlessly critical of weak attempts like Sony's , Samsung's and (lately) LG's.
[deleted post]It's not a lie to say that Sony hardly upgrades her phones. It's demonstratably true. I honestly wonder where this company finds her fanbase. Probably PlayStation fans and/to Ericsson fan that don't yet know that neither of the two teams has/had anything to do with the present Sony mobile department, hence the unearned adulation.
Phones should be judged on their merits. And this one doesn't have many. Just put it side by side w the two year old phone of their own (that his was meant to replace) and you struggle to see important difference.
This is not hating , this is supporting the closure of a company that gave up on innovation.
AnonD-72356, 15 May 2017The high number of comments just show how disappointed people are but there are some due hard ... moreId say there are about 80% pro XZ Premium, and about 20% contra commenters here...
GrumpyHumpyBrother, 15 May 2017Like when the Sony camp were just quiet enjoying their favorite Sony products, then suddenly S... moreSince you already know some comments are bad, no need to respond to them, otherwise you will see more and more ....