Some of the comments are saying that Xperia XZP takes a more real shot than S8. I know nothing about photography, but to those who use DSLR I like to ask, at auto mode which is more closer to DSLR (auto) quality, S8 or XZP? I am not sure if this was a stupid question or not, but I really like to know how much post-processing is done.
And, is there any necessity to defend the XZP or bash S8? Both look great. Why give haters the ground!!!
Anonymous, 15 May 2017For the fans of other oems, they are not that defensive. But the fans of this brand...even bec... moreLike when the Sony camp were just quiet enjoying their favorite Sony products, then suddenly Samsung/Apple camp made fun of them?
If you were bullied, you would obviously fight back, won't you?
I doubt you won't.
Lex79, 15 May 2017I think all manufacturers could benefit from the addition of xenon, not just Sony, as its simp... moreHi, I got your point now
I missed my Xperia X10, I have never saw a smartphone over hand X10 in zooming, that was truly great! Thanks again
[deleted post]For the fans of other oems, they are not that defensive. But the fans of this brand...even become offensive...
AnonD-72356, 15 May 2017The high number of comments just show how disappointed people are but there are some due hard ... moreA die-hard fanboy will always defend what he/she loves, in a way with great points and very reliable.
A die-hard hater will always deny everything he/she hears that doesn't sound good to him/her.
Apparently this is what you're doing.
AnonD-72356, 15 May 2017The high number of comments just show how disappointed people are but there are some due hard ... moreIt goes the other way dude. Sony Ericsson is now a history dude. It's Sony now. Wake up.
Anonymous, 15 May 2017when writing or reading, do you want a paper on flat panel of curved one? Curved screen is ... moreI used Galaxy S6 edge, using S8 now. I'm writing this comment on its curved display. But wait? which effects are you talking about? I just see a very gorgeous beautiful display on a very sexy phone, stop commenting crap about something you never used and something you can't afford.
The high number of comments just show how disappointed people are but there are some due hard fanboys who is mocking everyone commenting on here with many comments causing the comments to go high in numbers, Sony used to be great company when it was Sony Ericsson, they were providing amazing phones for classy people when Nokia was fooling people with same boring phones but now there's nothing amazing or classy about these boring phones from Xperia
Tann Hauser, 15 May 2017Wow, we are at 470 comments. This phone is most definitely the biggest hit of the year. I agree.
Wow, we are at 470 comments.
This phone is most definitely the biggest hit of the year.
AnonD-664474, 15 May 2017Based on my self-GSMArena statistics, the most hated brands are (from most to least):
1. Sony... moreAbout your top five.
Samsung used to push hardware. Nowadays they don't yet their prices are even higher. They're easily the worse value for money of the bunch, that's why it is hated. Especially since she gives up one her phone fast.
Sony is frankly an average phone maker that is praised to high heavens. Naturally that gets many people angry. They're middling in most of everything yet insist on making the same mistake that makes them middling. They're nothing spectacular yet extremely conservative.
HTC looks a lot like Sony. A middling company that used to get a lot of praise for bad reasons. Refuse to change despite the low sales, keep ffata mistakes on their phones for generations and make semi fly foolish mistakes out of nowhere (like that atrocious SD810 phone last year). An extremely conservative company that is sinking.
Apple hate I don't get it. They're the only company of the company that has continuously pushed better hardware and software between generation. They have a constant 30-40% raise in cpu/GPU performance , their battery continuously raises too, they do not give in to gimmicks (excessive resolutions). They support their phones forever.
Their only issue is their excessive bezels which do harms ergonomy and their hard to modify OS (which is an issue to enthusiasts). Still I think that Apple is wrongly up there.
LG is one more company that is wrongly up there because up until G6 they had a continuous upward trajectory. G6 was the first phone of theirs that was a clear step back (sealed battery, less wide screen, same performance, astronomical pricing,). So I guess they get push back because of G6 alone.
Xiaomi is another company that continuously push software and hardware. They support their phones for years (for example mi2 still gets bug fixes, security updates), always try to use the greatest hardware and batteries. Only cameras are subpar. So I guess they only get hatred because some people are slightly racist against the Chinese.
In short only half of your top 5/6 is up there for a good reason. The rest are only persecuted by fanboys. Sony, HTC and Samsung are indeed three companies that cut way too many corners though and should be critiqued for it.
Droid, 15 May 2017Samsung is the most hated brand. Nobody care about sony. Go on samsung topics and read. Haters... moreWell I don't really care what anyone says. In my opinion Sony is the best and I won't opt for anything different.
Everyone has their own thoughts regarding different things.
I will go for XZ Premium or XA1 Ultra.
AnonD-669130, 15 May 2017Samsung processing isnt better:
S8:https://attach.mobile01.com/attach/201704/mobile01-8b3c... moreNone old your post answered mine. Yes Samsung cut many corners leading to the worst flagship mrelease of theirs, S8. I'm not comparing this Xperia with S8. Maybe it's only S8 that manages to be even worse this generation.
I'm critical of most companies that release phones in the west. They think that we're fools and cut corners. They used to innovate and evolve their phones between gens, nowadays there is hardly a change between gens, they could as well all be phones of the same gen w slight variations.
So what you said is a non argument.
Sony could easily fix their phone, their didn't
Samsung could easily fix their phone , they didn't
Both are being kills from what Note 4 was for its time. Heck it's probably still a better phone if you discount night photopgrahy.
Also 75% BtS ratio is not "bezeless" ... your fanmboyism is showing because you didn't even read my post.
Xperia phones are excessive, those make the phones gargantuan which makes them hard to use one handed, that's just a fact, wake up!
Arian Adler, 15 May 2017About five years ago, my Nokia N8 vs my iPhone 4/Xperia X10 (with great zoom) and my GS2: was ... moreI think all manufacturers could benefit from the addition of xenon, not just Sony, as its simply a better solution than led for flash purposes.
Like I said, I'm not saying manual mode what's no place on a smartphone, using manual will (in the right hands) get you better results regardless of the camera you are using.
My point was that the manual mode in the Xperia ui is convoluted and inefficient, with more limitations than the best competing devices.
Yoy can always download a 3rd party solution I suppose, but again that's my point, taking a great pic on an Xperia almost always involves steps (more than should be necessary) and is no where near as easy as it should be.
Anonymous, 13 May 2017Unfortunately the battery life and the sunlight contrast ratio just doesn't cut it. The S8 is ... moreThere is a trick in video playing back: OLED is better in playing movies of most of dark scenes but worse in playing TV drama which usually has more bright scenes. In real world, LCD is even more power saving that OLED.
AnonD-615118, 15 May 2017Sometime the most hated brands can be the best brand. And thats the case with Sony.Samsung is the most hated brand. Nobody care about sony. Go on samsung topics and read. Haters from all brands sony first apple huawei and lg.... nobody care about sony. People are here to laugh about sony because sony fanboys did the same with samsung. Its just a revenge.
AnonD-72356, 13 May 2017But it looks like every phone released by Sony in past years. I can't tell the difference betw... morewhen writing or reading, do you want a paper on flat panel of curved one?
Curved screen is too too too stupid idea! Look at the tortured text and prism-effect around the borders. I really don't understand why people pay much more for that shit screen. It is just like people pay more for rotten apple.
AnonD-635604, 15 May 2017 " And even in camera there is no OIS! "
Google Pixel with no OIS can beat S7.
Sony and Goog... moreI have a Google Pixel, and no, hardware OIS will always be better than electronic stabilisation.
4K contents are really widely available, so yeah basically 1080p display with 4K label.
Camera sucks big time.
Reply only once, out of your rage when this garbage phone gets bashed don't reply three times for one message. I was initially here to genuinely see about this phone. Then it was proved the phone is a below average premium phone. Then I found the utter fools commenting here, and now I am simply gonna piss you off.
Camera sucks. Phone sucks. Users are the biggest losers, couldn't be more simple. Wanna me to be more succinct?