[deleted post]Just don't look beyond the camera first of all. Cause camera was meant to be one of the best thing of this phone, but in fact its one of the worst, but if you look beyond the camera then I think even I might consider them Chinese OEMs like Ximi or sorts. A great phone for losers anyway, though as no one cares about them it doesn't really matter.
I was still hopeful for this phone anyway, but whatever. Same old same old, waste of a phone, and it will cost premium, that's even more pathetic.
Anonymous, 14 May 2017Your analysis about haters is wrong. One can hate a phone because it obviously cuts corners an... moreYour talking about disliking a single product for tangible reasons like battery or performance etc. here I agree with you.
I'm talking more though about the kind of unbreakable bias that leads people to like or dislike brands inspite of bad examples of those same criteria. Or those that will attack the features or technology of other brands even when those things are implemented well, simply as are they coming from a rival brand.
You needn't look far in the comments section on sites like this to see examples of this endless nonsense.
Anonymous, 14 May 2017yeah you re right. sony never tries. and never innovates in terms of designs. thats why always... moreSony never learned because Sony never HAD to learn.The never had problems with batteries or red tint displays or anything functional with their devices.You are trying to make the big failures of Samsung successes.
Anonymous, 14 May 2017sony is so popular. because never change its ugly big bezel designs since years ago. lol.That coming from the same person with iphone 7, huawei p10, google pixel, htc u ultra, etc,
Pretty much only 4 brand is hyping bezelless which is Xiaomi,sharp, lg and samsung. Xiaomi and sharp aside, samsung and lg pretty much dont have anything to give this year so they went "how about streching the screen so it cover almost all the top and bottom bezel and call it bezelless design?" Since these two company didn't have front firing stereo speaker nor a big camera sensor to fit in rear and front, they doesn't have much work to do, while sony can't just ditch their hard developed imx400 and rather large front facer and stereo speaker just to ride along with the trend that hardly practical
The real innovation in screen stb will belong to sharp cause they achieved it without going with weird aspects ratio and call it "future" and thanks to xiaomi cause bringing it to international level
Bezel are bad, it's true, if Sony don't use it properly but the thing is sony put it to good use with all those space, a bigger sensor with extra stack, big front facer with autofocus(even the phone with "selfie expert" moniker don't have it) stereo speaker, etc
At least XZP still have headphone jack unlike a certain brand that have large bezel but still lacking one
GrumpyHumpy, 14 May 2017Still gets popular without even trying. Samsung is wasting money just to become popular. Lolyeah you re right. sony never tries. and never innovates in terms of designs. thats why always suffers bad sales. and trolled by many people. lol.
samsung tries very hard to innovate, learns alot from the past note7 fiasco, fixing the red tint problem immediately, and now a lot more people trust samsung. in the past.. people hate touchwiz. now they love it.
Tidy looks, Total experience in an android phone = XZp
Good job Sony
Tann Hauser, 14 May 2017Im being sarcastic, to fun out those better seller_better phone nonsns folk. Yeah if it sells more doesn't mean it's best. It means people are actually shelling out their hard earned money for it. It won't happen unless you do 3 things right
1 generate a cult following (not possible for any other brand than you know who)
2 give people what they want
3 Bombard them with excessive marketing and coax retailers to sell your phone for High commission. The company that's third does this perfectly and to some extent 2nd point too(good build, selfie and OK battery life) so they sell. Look at these points and think about brand which does not sell. Where are they wrong. You'll get your answer
Lex79, 14 May 2017And which category do you think you fall into I wonder?
From the tone of your ramblings bel... moreYour analysis about haters is wrong. One can hate a phone because it obviously cuts corners and perpetuates a fraud.
Look at S8 for example. A downgrade in battery, hardly an upgrade on performance or pixel density, only notable change is the taller screen (which on in itself is not very useful) so as someone who loves past Samsung phones I feel I have every right to criticize how fraudulent they've become.
Same with Sony. They evolve every 3 generations, literally. They keep for example the same battery life for ages, sometimes it regresses, the keep the same design despite its flaws , etc...
And sometimes a company that used to make steps forwards each generation suddenly stops and takes a step back. Look at G6, worse camera than G5 , a lot worse battery (it's sealed, so no spares) and same performance. All those are worth of critique and it's not hating, they are just bad ideas...
Anonymous, 14 May 2017sony is so popular. because never change its ugly big bezel designs since years ago. lol.Still gets popular without even trying. Samsung is wasting money just to become popular. Lol
AnonymouseX, 14 May 2017Who is to be blamed? Samsung and Apple fans started this all. Now some crap Chinese lovers j... moresony is so popular. because never change its ugly big bezel designs since years ago. lol.
ithehappy, 14 May 2017You need a doctor mate, sooner the better.I am one. Need medication? Your eyes dont seem to work well in low light.
AnonymouseX, 14 May 2017Who is to be blamed?
Samsung and Apple fans started this all.
Now some crap Chinese lovers j... moreAnd which category do you think you fall into I wonder?
From the tone of your ramblings below....oh I'm sorry that was 'beautiful words of wisdom' wasn't it??? (points for attempted comedy on your part there at least) I would guess 'lover'?
Problem is the lovers and haters (or fanboys and trolls as they are otherwise labelled) are pretty much the same thing. It's stands to reason that if you hold a strong enough bias towards one brand, then your pretty much going to feel a need to defend that bias to the detriment of all competing brands.
Therefore, as a general rule, most fanboys are haters and most haters are fanboys, and they are all a menace!
Other than myself, I could probably count on one hand the number of other commenters on here that could be classed as unbiased (or average users in your simplistic terms).
Dear Friends what make your worshipped brands pathetic are the fans and the haters who start insulting each other and talking nonsense out of topic showing the users are not smart enough.
Smartphones are for smart people and some of you are just, pathetic
You'd better write and publish a novel about this conflict and transform it to be an achievement because I believe you guys like writing
Remember you pay the phone not the phone paid you!
Anonymous, 14 May 2017Don't know why people attack each other just because of the phones... It is just a phone. It's the crown artifact of modern societies. Modern societies are built on continual growth, some of those companies are violating this eternal truth by offering pretty much the same phone or at times worse than last gen so that to have short sighted gains.
This type of behavior is corrupt and if it piles up it will take down the whole of our technical civilization. Pretty much what happened to Soviet union, 20 years of technical and societal stagnation lead to a miserable country and miserable people. Everything is based on whether companies are making progress and on whether we'd be supporting the right companies.
Sony is unfortunately is not one of them. She took the low road of low specs and gimmicks so she has to be criticized harshly else her antiques and her fans will take the society down. This is very much a modern battlefield, it's not just a phone.
Through the use of reason people should understand that this phone is no good and a weak excuse of evolution. Its reputation should be dismantled before *it* dismantles society.
Aside from the design , tthe xz premium just shows what sony has always done so far..Playing by their own rules... 4k, like they say you decide if you need...Batery life endurance is seriously penalized by this..Then again you decide.
Good job, the best so far in years by sony. Just whish that sony had done a better job by reducing the bezels and make less square....
Anonymous, 14 May 2017Don't know why people attack each other just because of the phones... It is just a phone. Who is to be blamed?
Samsung and Apple fans started this all.
Now some crap Chinese lovers joined the tandem, too.
Don't you notice that this section is rather filled with more haters than lovers and average users?
Altogether the non-Sony fans form a big rampage team and starts war on Sony articles instead of any other else.
You know, Sony is most popular here at GSMArena.
Don't know why people attack each other just because of the phones... It is just a phone.