Tann Hauser, 13 May 2017Here are some more facts for ya, XZ Prem vs S7 lowlight: http://imgur.com/a/f4pP0 I real... moreBoth images aren't even of same subject. Also lightning condition is vastly different
Anonymous, 13 May 2017sony cant crush anymore. dont have enough energy to do it. already crushed by better brands li... moreOh they do.
Performance, software and support, audio, battery rating and longevity, camera, a lot.
Maybe watch some test before commenting will help aid your ego.
[deleted post]sony cant crush anymore. dont have enough energy to do it. already crushed by better brands like apple samsung and china brands.
Xperia M5, C5 Ultra, X, X performance, XA Ultra and Xperia XZ also have autofocus in selfie camera!
Now Xperia XZs, XZ premium, XA1 Ultra and XA1 have autofocus selfie camera!
Also Xperia XZ, XZs, XZ premium have 5-axis stabilization for selfie camera and Xperia XA Ultra and XA1 Ultra have optical stabilization (OIS) for selfie camera!!!
Sony smartphones have best selfie cameras
Beast phone of 2017, but I feel sorry for myself when I can't afford to buy it as of now. I'll definitely buy in about two-three years when price decreases.
AnonD-77443, 13 May 2017Xzp is better in those pics??.. Really? Those photos highlight my comments about low light per... moreRubbish. The S8 does not resolve more detail or have better colour reproduction. Indeed, the colours outputted on the S8 are far too saturated in almost all cases. This from an S8 owner: the camera on this thing is over rated.
AnonD-77443, 13 May 2017I have to disagree, I can see no visible difference on the S8+ between 1080p and 1440p so i ru... moreSo in short terms, it's the QHD hype starters to be blamed.
Sony moved to 4K because people are sick of 1080p being a lower resolution, and when they did, everyone's complaining.
People will never get satisfied. They always will have something to complain about, especially the non-Sony fans.
AnonD-72356, 13 May 2017Right but a phone isn't just for a daylight camera even, there are many other features one nee... more"Right but a phone isn't just for a daylight camera"
--It's not but it's where most people will use their camera phones to.
Do you wonder sometimes why photographers always use a light source before taking photos in a somewhat dim environment? Smartphones have built-in flashes for a reason. It's pointless to have it when it's not going to be used at all. It's just wasting space.
"there are many other features one need in a smartphone and Xperia Xzp lacks in about everything in front of Galaxy S8"
--Like what? Cameras are only made to take photos. What does the XZ Premium lack against the S8 when both basically do the job they're made for? Ah that stinky Bixby that does everything Google Now has already been doing for years. I get it.
"bragging about 19mp camera only which is no better than S8 won't make it a worthy smartphone."
--So you're just trying to say that a 12mp 1/2.5" sensor camera is better than a 19mp 1/2.3" sensor camera. Makes sense.
Don't trust that benchmarks. Real world performance is different thing.
ithehappy, 13 May 2017A camera is about everything, that's the only thing you said right that's it. Otherwise stop s... moreCompare shutter speeds: iphone, s8 got 1/6th, 1/10th while sony 1/32 and high iso, thats the reason for "bad" low light, so in real life you get shaky shot out of competitors while low res from sony, what suits you better?. You got also option of using different camera app to get slower shutter speed on auto, just nothing to complain, sony got biggest sensor and newest tech in it that changes(/get better) every 6months.
ithehappy, 13 May 2017A camera is about everything, that's the only thing you said right that's it. Otherwise stop s... more"Low light is an extremely important part of a mobile camera."
--Why? Do you live in space where that's very necessary? Then stop getting phones and get a full frame digital camera instead. Or else a night vision camera is available today and will help you see more. Not that I'm saying it's not an important aspect, but it's just one. Just because low light capability isn't that good, doesn't mean it's not a good camera overall. That's like saying someone is ugly just because his/her feet look ugly.
"Most top of the line mobile cameras take almost identical shots in day time, its low light where most of them fall apart."
--Oh really? Identical? So can you explain me why the iPhone 7 has different color tones compared to the S8 in daylight! Can you explain scientifically why the Pixel has the class-leading dynamic range in daylight? Can you also tell me why the XZs/XZ Premium is unmatched in details resolved in daylight?
Everyone falls because of hardware limitations. The XZ Premium falls behind because it's got the highest megapixel, because Sony themselves understand that smartphone cameras are suited for daylight shots and no one is insane to take a picture in pitch dark situations and expect a very bright and detailed image.
"Almost all the current flagship cameras, and cameras from last year will outperform this new Sony phone easy, so there is that, game over."
--Okay. Ask DxOMark of how will they judge it. They only do necessary tests.
"Otherwise stop saying nonsense and defending crap phones."
--Telling you how an average user uses a camera phone is nonsense? Wow. Then I don't know what for you is "make/s sense" shitt.
There's no such thing as "crap" phone because all of them are good at their very own ways,
You seemed to only focus on low light shots, which I guess you're living in a world where light never travels inside.
AnonymouseX, 13 May 2017I already have seen the S7 Edge display, that follows the same pixel pattern as the S8/S8+'s p... moreI have to disagree, I can see no visible difference on the S8+ between 1080p and 1440p so i run 1080p. I guarantee no one will see a difference between 1440p and 2160p unless using VR.
The biggest difference is things like brightness, sunlight performance, colour, viewing angle etc.
ithehappy, 13 May 2017A camera is about everything, that's the only thing you said right that's it. Otherwise stop s... moreWow, you keep repeating this nonsense lie on and on.
Think it ll help?
AnonD-72356, 13 May 2017Compare both displays side by side and you'll know how superior the S8 wqHD+ is. I already have seen the S7 Edge display, that follows the same pixel pattern as the S8/S8+'s panel. Then I also saw 2K IPS LCD phones like the G4, V10, and G5. Also saw 1080p IPS LCD panels like the Z5, Xperia X, XZ, XA Ultra, and iPhone 7 Plus.
S7 Edge looks the most saturated of all, but while sharpness isn't too noticeable, it definitely IS when side-by-side. Still your choice if you like that pixel matrix. Nothing's going to be lost if you choose it, but you must know that the difference is there.
Besides, other than improved color accuracy, contrast, etc., sharpness remains the same between the S7/S7 Edge and S8/S8+ right?
Feels like they went down with sharpness because the S7 Edge got more ppi density than the S8 while being smaller in size. Smaller screen size means pixels are more dense so no individual pixels are gonna be visible. S8 got a larger footprint so pixels will spread all over and they (the pixels) are farther away from each other to cover the larger area.
Just because it's called QHD+ doesn't mean it's better than a standard QHD. It's in that form because of an unconventional 18.5:9 ratio, which is very rare in content industry.
AnonymouseX, 13 May 2017A camera isn't just about low light images. If you're a low light master, get a DSLR or any f... moreRight but a phone isn't just for a daylight camera even, there are many other features one need in a smartphone and Xperia Xzp lacks in about everything in front of Galaxy S8, bragging about 19mp camera only which is no better than S8 won't make it a worthy smartphone.
AnonymouseX, 13 May 2017A camera isn't just about low light images.
If you're a low light master, get a DSLR or any f... moreA camera is about everything, that's the only thing you said right that's it. Otherwise stop saying nonsense and defending crap phones. Low light is an extremely important part of a mobile camera. Most top of the line mobile cameras take almost identical shots in day time, its low light where most of them fall apart. And this camera falls apart hilariously.
Almost all the current flagship cameras, and cameras from last year will outperform this new Sony phone easy, so there is that, game over.
AnonD-664474, 13 May 20171. Diamond PenTile is not as sharp as RGB matrix, so a 2K sAMOLED Diamond PenTile = 1080p IPS ... moreCompare both displays side by side and you'll know how superior the S8 wqHD+ is.
ithehappy, 13 May 2017Congrats Sony.
One of the worst "flagship" camera out there.
God those low light auto sa... moreA camera isn't just about low light images.
If you're a low light master, get a DSLR or any full frame digital camera. Even the so-called "best camera phone" will be obsolete in comparison to those mighty large sensors and optics. If anything, the closest one so far are the Nokia 808 and Lumia 1020, so sad that MS lost interest of keeping the support to those beasts. Can't wait to see a Nokia flagship camera phone with the superb PureView 1" sensor and Carl Zeiss f1.8 optics in 12mp resolution. Don't need a lossless zoom, the pixels wiill eventually get larger and you'd get better zooming details because the pixels will grow larger for an unparalleled low light capability.
AnonD-195762, 13 May 2017OK all the trolls are bitching about bezels, at least it doesn't look like every other android... moreBut it looks like every phone released by Sony in past years. I can't tell the difference between Xzp or any other Sony flagship phone came in 3-4 years. S8 with its beautiful curved infinity display makes it the best looking, out of the crowd easily recognizable phone.