Camera B looks to be the best under daylight, retaining the most detail while not applying awful "watercolor-like" noise reduction or oversharpening.
When night falls, though, C seems to be the best.
These 3 cameras don't share resolution, though, so I cannot see how would all 3 "100% crop" actually be a 100% crop and show the same content.
So this test might just be bad.
AnonD-664474, 19 May 2017You went too far my dear brother.
I don't mind if you want to complain about something, but m... moreSupporting bad products is not a matter of choice, it's a matter of quality of life at first and if you push it it's a matter of much more ominous circumstances, a matter of companies pushing their will to consumers through marketing , ads and private armies of fanboys.
The later is ominous because it's the start of totalitarianism. You may say "they're just phones". They're not, they're about 1/4th of our waking days and how said part of our lives is to be controlled *is* extremely important to people in a tangible way. If you start giving away freedoms you won't end with many of them.
Sony was the first android to seal the battery. I will never forget that. Sealing the battery meaning your phone is potentially always on and be remotely listened. It means that you are depended on plugs from now on, it means that you lose your phone's use at least an hour a day, which very well be an important hour (during the charging).
It all started with Sony on android because Sony fans were always the most easily suggestible. They still are, so as long as Sony mobile is alive it can be used for even more anti consumers tactics that may well spread to the rest of the society/industry.
Big devices with small batteries/screens for the size, bad cameras, relatively low ram. All Sony's features. This *has to* be fighted and even if Sony's " features" become industry standards. At least become that with some fight first. Not just accepting that it was "the fan's will"... They're obviously taken advantage of, like in the sealing of the battery controversy.
Less than two hours gsma will reveal which is which. I am being impatient and refresh this site again and again LoL!!
Let's accept gsmarena results peacefully. Camera isn't everything tho so even if your brand loses it doesn't make it a bad phone.
When are they going to reveal the phones used to take these individual snaps.
zodiacfml, 19 May 2017The XZP is the easiest to guess here due to the largest magnification and noise due to no OIS ... moreThe images are not original so this blind test is useless.
My last calculation is not correct.
Size: G6 = S8 < xzp (120%). However we can't observe it from any groups. I guess C is S8 too.
If C is S8 or G6, it means that GSMarena deliberately resized photos to benifit Samsung. if C is xzp, it means that this site gets sense to let vendors compete at same conditions, I mean at least same pixels.
Anonymous, 19 May 2017this is blind test is kind of odd.
G6 vs S8, FOV is 71-77 and Pixel 13-12, so 100% crop of ... moreThe XZP is the easiest to guess here due to the largest magnification and noise due to no OIS for low light.
The G6 and S8 is harder to guess between the two due to inconsistencies in magnification. I quite cheated when I saw the images used in the reviews. Camera C is the S8 which should have been easy as it has the lower noise compared to Camera C. B0ut it has the smallest magnification which I thought it was the Wide Angle camera of the G6.
Camera A performs well in low light showing it has OIS but it has higher noise in good light due to smaller camera sensor compared to the S8. It did not use the wide angle camera shots.
AnonD-10768, 19 May 2017There is also alot of variables here. I know the LG has 2 cameras at the rear. I wonder which ... morethis is blind test is kind of odd.
G6 vs S8, FOV is 71-77 and Pixel 13-12, so 100% crop of images should be at the same size. S8 vs XZP, focal length is 26mm to 25mm and sensor is 1/2.55 to 1/2.3, the FOV of S8 should be 0.87 of XZP's, taking 19MP and 12MP into account, XZP's image should be 9% bigger.
However A and B are almost same at size while C is smaller, so it is clear that GSMarena either tweaked camera or changed image size, or even changed time/place of photos being taken!
lol, I was wrong for the first and second guess. I went back to the reviews of the S8 and G6 and found the sample images there.
AnonD-456458, 19 May 2017I need to see the entire images to decide which camera is best for me. Who does look at such z... moreSo you have hard time finding out which phone is your favorite. Still, knowing sensors and performance of night time on sony, its an easy guess. Would be sony set to manual, as well as G6, it would be hard with just crops to see difference. Shame is in those crops sonys color performance is not visible, should be better than just boosted colors in the rest.
It's pretty obvious, that XZ Premium has to be on section B, it got a lot of noise going on. Very bad camera, period !!
Would be interesting to have 4th camera as sony with manual setting or different camera app. Feel sorry for that sensor in comparison.
Second post, I missed the part where you mentioned these are 100% crops so it was easier than I expected. I hope you post an 8MP reduction on the next shootouts so that it doesn't penalize high MP cameras. Wide angle cameras should also approach the target closer to retain the same coverage.
Camera B is the largest image enlargement and with poor low light because of no OIS despite having the largest sensor, XZ Premium.
Camera C has the smallest image due to a wider lens, performs well in low light. LG G6.
Camera A, S8 just because it is the remaining option and if I am right, it doesn't have the smoothest noise reduction. It leaves some noise for slightly more detail.
Missing a reference image - what does the honeycomb in #2 actually look like?
Phones are the same order in all cases:
A - G6, B - Xperia XZ, C - S8 (look at more reviews, and it will be clear)
There should definitely be the full image to judge as well, as those are the real results of the cameras. Some cameras might struggle with detail, but do well with contrast, etc. So one small crop might not tell the whole story.
I do understand that having unmodified pictures would be a clean giveaway of the phone, as they might have different resolution or aspect ratio.
Most users will not really go pixel peeping and will (most of the time) look at pictures on their 5-6 inch phone, on a tablet, on a laptop, monitor, or tv. Even a 4k tv will not display 1:1 all the pixels even in a 12MP 4:3 ratio photo if viewed full screen.
AnonD-456458, 19 May 2017I need to see the entire images to decide which camera is best for me. Who does look at such z... moreI agree. I suggest an 8MP image reduction and then 100% crop of this for future shootouts.
I need to see the entire images to decide which camera is best for me. Who does look at such zoomed in cropped partial images in real life anyway?