The XZ Premium should be superior in good light but the comparison is flawed by using a 100% crop. I am not defending the XZ, I am just saying that test is not proper. People rarely views photos at 100% crop.
Anonymous, 20 May 2017amoled = samoled = samsungoledSony was the pioneer of OLED, so they have the right to call their OLED the way they want.
If not JOLED, Supra AMOLED would sound cool, as it sounds like a competitive counterpart of Samsung's Super AMOLED displays.
On the cropped images Sony is demolished, on the full pictures strangely I looks quite nice thou. Ironically on the night church shot, where I voted C (Samsung) without hesitation, I like Sony full picture more, better reflect night atmosphere imo, Samsung is too whitened.
AnonD-664474, 20 May 2017it will be from jdi, so it'll be jdi amoled or joled.amoled = samoled = samsungoled
Wow, so many people are so butthurt here that they enjoy bashing Sony for having the crappiest quality while some of the loyal ones cry because they don't like to see that brand falling behind others.
I'm not a sony fan and I don't have any of these 3 phones here but for god's sake, I keep on wondering why it sounds as the most bashed brand in this site. Yeah, most of their fanboys think they're the best, which is stupid, yet bashers make themselves look more stupid because they enjoy feeding on them. I feel miserable for those fans and the bashers too.
God, I hate brand wars. There is a saying that when you throw stones in the sky, if you get hit by any of these, then don't get mad.
AnonD-182216, 20 May 2017The question I would like answered is why the shoot out pics are so much worst than the review... moreThat's because the review pictures are full-size images and the ones in the shootout are 100% cropped.
AnonD-664474, 20 May 2017Seems like Sammy and LG fans are happy with the result. Let's just see if it's gonna be the s... moresamsung and lg use sonys cameras anyway they just have better software if sony does make a camera like that (those arent great specs ) samsung will use it anyway
AnonD-635604, 20 May 2017A=LGG6 B=XXZP C=SGS8 Morning dude
The question I would like answered is why the shoot out pics are so much worst than the review pics? I'm not like the vast majority that lets tech sites judge or guide me down a path to buy a smartphone but the pics from the shoot out and the pics from the review are like day and night. Good thing I'm not a camera guy and I like the overall package and in that department only three android phones gives me the smoothness I require HTC , Motorola and Sony yet these guys not selling like others, just shows the power of marketing and the effects it have on people's minds.
AnonD-664474, 20 May 2017it will be from jdi, so it'll be jdi amoled or joled.Yes JDI. But if JDI has not start to produce the OLED, it could be LG OLED.
AnonD-635604, 20 May 2017it would be oled and not amoled. it will be from jdi, so it'll be jdi amoled or joled.
A=LGG6
B=XXZP
C=SGS8
Anonym, 20 May 2017LG G6 actually has a Sony sensor, in high likelihood the S8 also has Sony sensor.
We already ... moreI do know that LG and Samsung uses Sony sensors - almost everyone does anyways.
My main point is that Sony will surely create a camera that will truly differentiate itself from the competition. The 960fps Slow Motion easily separated them from the crowd, and eventually their newer hardware will also be differentiative.
Sony is slowly fixing the issues they have with cameras. Back then, without zooming, Sony images aren't comparable enough to the likes of the whole competition, and it requires the proper use of Manual Mode just to produce something competitive.
Now, without zooming or pixel peeping, you wouldn't know between Sony and other OEM's image is better - that's how much Sony has improved. It loses in details, but nothing else anymore - colors are close or even better, exposure is roughly the same, and dynamic range is now very close.
I still have faith to Sony to deliver what they need to bring. It's just a shame of how long it took them before making a camera that's competitive, but if this is an indication of Sony waking up and learning from the mistakes, then I won't stop them from making better and better phones.
AnonD-664474, 20 May 2017Either it will be the same 19mp, but the fact that they got the willingness to reduce the mega... moreit would be oled and not amoled.
AnonD-635604, 20 May 2017I think it is 19mp because they will use the same sensor (IMX400). I don't think it will not h... moreEither it will be the same 19mp, but the fact that they got the willingness to reduce the megapixel count by 4 megapixels, I do think they will eventually do it down to 12mp as well.
OIS is a possibility. XA Ultra and XA1 Ultra have OIS front camera. They are mid rangers, so why not give it to the higher end flagships as well?
There will be something new, but other than camera, I'm expecting more with the display, and that's maybe a switch from IPS LCD to AMOLED, but not from Samsing or LG.
Anonym, 20 May 2017LG G6 actually has a Sony sensor, in high likelihood the S8 also has Sony sensor. We already ... moreBad Software like what? May I know?
AnonD-664474, 20 May 2017Seems like Sammy and LG fans are happy with the result.
Let's just see if it's gonna be the s... moreLG G6 actually has a Sony sensor, in high likelihood the S8 also has Sony sensor.
We already know Sony can make good sensors, they just don't work nicely in their phones (ie. bad software auto-processing).
As far as Xperias go, I couldn't care less what specs they announce for the next sensor -- that's not the problem that needs to be addressed!
AnonD-664474, 20 May 2017Seems like Sammy and LG fans are happy with the result. Let's just see if it's gonna be the s... moreI think it is 19mp because they will use the same sensor (IMX400). I don't think it will not have OIS because Sony is not interested on it. Maybe they will present new design, some new things on camera and new Sony assistant(example Battery Care). There will be something new.
Seems like Sammy and LG fans are happy with the result.
Let's just see if it's gonna be the same when Sony made a 12mp 1/2" sensor, f1.8 lens, OIS, and 1.8um pixel.
Not joking here, it is indeed gonna happen soon. I have no source or proof, but mark my words when IFA 2017 arrives.
Ranjith Nath, 20 May 2017 Sony phone has good rating in DXOMARK . But here its not good . How is it possible .DxOMark is very specific at giving scores, whereas GSMArena is more of a point-and-shoot test.
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