Anonymous, 22 May 2017Night photography is night and day ... literally even when comparing the most basic mirrorless... moreI'm not disagreeing but I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. I agree that miniaturization of the sensors has taken its toll, also it would be nice if more makers re-introduced Xenon. Phones aren't that bad in low light though, except sometimes if the subject is moving. Heck, my phone sometimes sees better in the dark than I do, while my first camera phones couldn't take a proper photo in my bedroom with the light on, it was still too dark for them. And yes, information gets lost, but - most people post their photos scaled down on social networks, or, when they look at them they only look at them briefly on a display or a monitor and most monitors are still 1920x1080, I suppose. They aren't pixel-peeping. Very few people print their photos. You could say that quantity has taken over quality, but still people take more photos now than ever before.
All 3 are well rounder overall. but still SONY has all the HATERS in the world. people just want that "innovation" kind of thing. To think the two cant compete at sony's fast browsing capability. And some call it a "piece of crap". Well, true! SAMSUNG has all the buyers!
MdN8, 22 May 2017Have an upvote.
Seriously, I'm tired of the "just get a DSLR" argument. Phone cameras have b... moreYep.
There are shots that i could never do on a mobile camera (long exposure, flash, tele photo etc) but for 98% of my photos I'd much rather use my S8+ over my canon D40 ($2000+ at the time).
I know DSLR cameras aim for natural looking pics but most people find them too washed out and need to do processing anyway.
I took a photo of my baby daughter sleeping in a pretty dark room this morning. My DSLR wouldn't have done much better unless i had a tripod or used bounce flash.
i can understand samsung without a doubt is the loudest of them all.
but in audio quality g6 quad dac is losing?
Nick Paschalidis, 21 May 2017You put so much of your time and effort to bash Sony in all of their articles which actually ... moreis that the only thing you can do? insulting him just because you cant reply him with reasonable answer?
I've seen most sony fans did this before.
MdN8, 22 May 2017Have an upvote.
Seriously, I'm tired of the "just get a DSLR" argument. Phone cameras have b... moreNight photography is night and day ... literally even when comparing the most basic mirrorless camera to a phone.
A very great difference exists in low light photography too (photographs under clouds or inside), which is maybe the greatest amount of photography for most people.
In the one thing that the two are comparable is day photography which I would say is about 1/3rd to 1/4th of all the photographs people would ever take.
Mirrorless are almost as small as point and shoot cameras and the way prices are going down it won't be a stretch to think the prices would be there too.
If anything I think phone photography has actually lost ground in the last few years. Just owning a good mirrorless camera would basically make you forget about your phone camera. It's still good during the day (with a bright sun out), but it's simply not the case often.
The amount of information lost through phone photography IMO is unacceptable. It's like we have willfully accepted a nebulous way to remember our lives. Also given the small size of the sensors and the inability to collect light properly I don't expect phones to get much better fast and that's an issue to many/most people.
In fact I envision a future where mirrorless would be very cheap and relatively small. Enough that no self-respecting family won't have one during their travels. The future of phone photography does not look to be that great IMO.
Egash Josh, 21 May 2017Am just waiting for HTC U11 to kick sh*t out of this 3 phones!!! Hail to the mighty U11!i Dont think so, u can refer this comparison SAMSUNG S8 vs HTC U11, HTC U11 not prefect as you think
ithehappy, 21 May 2017Completely expected reply when your favourite pathetic Sony phone so poorly presents itself ag... moreThen why do you say you don't care in the first place, when you list a few reasons to, without testing the device, degrade Sony. Typical hypocrite troll.
Bunyip22, 22 May 2017Maybe you should read the article first.
phonearena.com/news/Galaxy-S8-vs-2000-mirrorless-c... moreHave an upvote.
Seriously, I'm tired of the "just get a DSLR" argument. Phone cameras have been good enough for a while now, at least to replace the ordinary "point and shoot" cameras. If you know what you're doing, you will make good photos. If you're a bad photographer a 1500 Euro camera won't help you. Very few people need professional quality cameras and even some professionals carry expensive cameras to their assignments just to look like a professional. I have an old Canon somewhere too, and the only feature I sometimes miss is the zoom. A few other people I know do the same, they just use a phone and maybe take their "real" camera on special occasions. All the ones in this review are excellent, except for a slight drawback for the Sony which doesn't have OIS and needs a really steady hand.
There seems to be a lot of missing information regarding the XZP's display. You forgot to mention the Super Vivid mode that turns it into like an AMOLED or the X reality Pixel filler and the Triluminous sRGB138%. S8 is superoversaturated that is results in detail loss, look at screen comparison on YouTube.
Also the XZP has a louder speaker because it was caught live on Recombu Q&A
Benchmarks do not matter because XZs is faster than S8 with an 820.
For connectivity, you forgot PS4 remote play, and all other Sony features.
Lastly, the XZP has been consistently taking better pictures than everything else on other sites.
So the conclusion is.. the is no conclusion? Something fishy here..
OK so all the phones are very similar in specs though the G6 is obviously a little underpowered in comparison. And while I know looks are subjective, you can't deny poor design. So while I love the look of the Sony, it is MASSIVE compared to the other two, and regardless of which side of the bezels argument you align to, that is inescapable. I'd take an off centre finger print reader over a phone I can't fit in my pocket anyday.. the S8 wins clearly (just like it did in most categories in this review but GSM Arena don't want to call it).
So let me see If i get it?, in the test made a day earlier the S8 was the phone without the best results in every photo it captures and i don't say it the most people the voted says that and today the XZ and G6 made better pictures i don't get really i agree with the other people the S8 made the better photograps
I would choose the G6 for the design, and the S8 for its internals.
NickiName, 21 May 2017Really, smartphones now beats DSLRs?
In what world did that theory came from?
I can use my... moreMaybe you should read the article first.
Sure the S8+ over saturates photos, has HDR tweaks and does a lot of onboard processing, but at the end of the days the S8+ looks better, has more detail and less noise. In relation to the natural image argument. I have never seen a professional photo where it hasn't been tweaked, colours brightened etc... mobile cameras simpply do this on board.
I have a Canon D40 and 17-55 f2.8 lens (about $1000 back in the day). In most cases i much prefer using my S8+.... always on me, doesn't need post pic processing, colours look nicer (ie over saturated) and i can viber or email in it 10 seconds.
These results don't just apply to the S8 but all high end mobile phones.
And this is why I come to GSMA first for my phone reviews: they're thorough!
Finally a review mentions the Field Of View difference on the Xperia. It annoys me that some reviews zoom in to pixel level, see that it's not much different than 12mp shooters and say that they somehow expected more (I'm looking at you Stuff Magazine!) Allowances must be made for the Field Of View and lenses of different cameras when comparing them or you're looking at quite different images - less light hitting a certain percentage of a sensor compared to another because of the lens. To pixel peep as if they're identical in this scenario is pointless - which is what really became apparent in the blind shootout. When you look at the full images in good light, the Xperia is clearly the best: while it doesn't have the noise reduction of the Samsung, the S8 is over exposing nearly every shot and it's getting textures wrong in places (see the shutters).
Each person's USP is unique: mine is camera. For this alone, I'm getting an XZP.
NB: I'm curious what the XZP would do if you brought the MP count down to 12mp at night, handheld. If it follows previous form, the camera will use pixel binning and use a lower ISO by default. Previous Xperia's improved substancially at 8mp for this reason alone.
ithehappy, 21 May 2017Completely expected reply when your favourite pathetic Sony phone so poorly presents itself ag... moreYou put so much of your time and effort to bash Sony in all of their articles which actually makes me feel sorry for you.You dont have anything better to do?Not that I care much but you should find something more creative to do with your time.