Why isn't the HTC U11 included in the recommended alternative devices?
IMO it is the only device that can challenge the Pixel 2 XL in every spec, EXCEPT the camera & stock OS. However the screen, dual speakers (personally prefer it, because you can still have the fingerprint sensor in the front), zoom recording, edge sense, headphones, expandable storage & excellent build quality... HTC U11 beats Pixel there.
HTC is underrated and deserves more credit. Both Apple & Google takes inspiration/cues from them.
s4f786, 31 Oct 2017What is it with companies charging high prices and can't even put stereo audio in video record... moreBecause there are people who are willing to pay. You see, smartphones these days give their makers huge, unprecedented profit. Is there really a phone that deserves over 700$? IMO, no. The Note8, the iPhone X, the Pixel 2XL, all doesn't deserve their prices. You can come and tell me about R&D and the build materials or the OLED displays or anything, but unfortunately, it still doesn't explain the high cost. These phones doesn't cost 600 or 700$ to make. They barely cost over 300 or 400$ to make.
Do we see a huge and noticable improvements each year? No. Do they perform 60% better than last year? No. Are the cameras 10 times better than last year? No. They simply don't deserve their cost. But again, there are people who are willing to pay.
Anonymous, 31 Oct 2017Default mode is almost 8000k The "default" is what Google decide it is. LG sends a display that is not calibrated so Google can do it the way it likes. Look at the V30's display, people only complain about the blue shift, but not dull colors. The V30 uses the same display as the pixel 2 XL which means the it's Google's fault, not LG's.
AnonD-594740, 31 Oct 2017Last year Google: lololololol we have a 3.5" jack!!!!111 This year Google: We remove it for... moreNope, they just want to annoy you with dongles so that you buy or at least consider to buy Pixel Pods, their 160$ crap, which co-incidentally they launched this year too....
Overpriced , overhyped , fugly as hell, crap Display. So why buy it ? oh ye you will get android 9 or 10 on it ... that will be full of bugs like all previous models. Wifi battery drain on the 6P, android system battery droin on the 6P for example.
Ok, so let me get this straight... this is the greatest purest Android phone which the fans stand by:
1.stock software with NO customisation/bloat/fluff/features/gimmicks AT ALL
3.no wireless charging
4.no headphone jack
5.no expandable storage
6.no removable/replaceable battery
7.sub par/low quality screen
Wait isn't this an iPhone?
As for me, camera is not that remarcable as it is advertised. Last year's Pixel did worser than majority of contenders in LL photos (in terms of sharpness, the colours were great though). And this year's pixel is not quite there in BL conditions, at least compared to LG's V30 or G6. Though I do like the balance between noise and details pixel delivers, the photo comparison tool shows huge advantage of the V30 and Note 8 in terms of noise and keeping details up. Yeah, cam is great. But with all the contenders being stronger this year, google seems like the one company which didn't do much improvemt over the year in terms of LL photography
And that folks, is why I still stand myself correct, that OLED ISN'T THE FUTURE, and IS NOT BETTER THAN IPS LCD.
Samsung made the best OLED screens on smartphones, but even those are still prone to burn ins (yes they are, people, they fvck1ng ARE). The best IPS LCD screen title still belongs to the XZ Premium with the 4K HDR quality, then the runner-up is the regular version of it, the XZ1 with 1080p HDR quality. Heck, even the LG G6's 2K HDR is proven great and could give OLED a run for their price. I don't like Apple either, but the way they manipulate IPS LCD screen is phenomenal. Sure, not a match for Sony (obviously, being a top TV manufacturer), but way better than anyone that uses IPS LCD besides LG.
What makes me not like Samsung is their use of Diamond PenTile pixel matrix. 2K on that matrix look nothing 2K; even the LG G4, V10, G5, and V20's 2K Quantum IPS displays with RGB pixel matrix look sharper.
And that's not to say that OLED is bad. Of course IPS LCD is no match against it in regards to color reproduction/accuracy, contrast, brightness, black levels, sunlight legibility, thickness (or thinness), flexibility, pixel response time, and of course the efficiency.
While those things are really intriguing to get over an IPS LCD display, its goodies are gonna be pointless when they would die earlier than IPS LCD. The main problem to it is that it costs for about 2x more, and it's barely better than the best IPS LCD screens made today on most flagships. I used to use a LG G4 before it boot looped, and man, the display is simply stunning for an IPS LCD. Blacks are amazingly deep, that I didn't even notice that it was a display when showing a black content (most especially on the navigation keys where I set it to black color). Yeah, it's not as bright as AMOLEDs, but I don't need it even if I have it. It was perfectly visible outdoors, and the screen quality is still top notch even in today's standard, with 98% coverage of the DCI-P3.
And before I end it, I thank you for going this far to my novel.
Jason Melling, 31 Oct 2017Meh. It's a phone, just like the thousands others out there. There are too many phones coming ... moreChinese phones are cheaper for a reason, the quality is half of what it is from Apple, google or samsung.
Would gladly pay extra for a non chinese phone.
Looking forward to my Pixel 2 XL getting here. Think the biggest negative with this phone is Google just can not seem to make them fast enough and that is frustrating. For me it is worth waiting 4 weeks to get the best phone but think others are not willing.
Hopefully with the Pixel 3 Google will have ramped up production to better meet demand.
s4f786, 31 Oct 2017What is it with companies charging high prices and can't even put stereo audio in video record... moreYeah. They put stereo speakers there for us to hear a mono audio recording lol.
Oh wow! A 3.5mm jack adapter. Surprise, surprise. There wasn't a need to remove the 3.5mm jack. The colourshift issue is most likely LG's fault, since the V30 also seems to suffer from the same. Google messed up this time with their Pixel line-up. For the camera, it's excellent. I like Google's post processing algorithms which retains the details despite having some noise. It's better than oversharpening for noise reduction as the details are lost. No manual mode for that excellent camera is a shame.
Anonymous, 31 Oct 2017Yup! Like the latest mate that uses it's NEURAL PROCESSING UNIT to magically remove all detail... moreTaking pictures using beauty mode turned on and wondering where the details are.
What is it with companies charging high prices and can't even put stereo audio in video recordings, I mean how much of a job is that to implement!
Jason Melling, 31 Oct 2017Meh. It's a phone, just like the thousands others out there. There are too many phones coming ... moreYup! Like the latest mate that uses it's NEURAL PROCESSING UNIT to magically remove all detail from pictures.
You can make a live action pixar film with it!
Hoffmann, 31 Oct 2017See? In the end its camera is not that "class-leading".I love that it has one of the best audio experiences they've tested.
So much for the audiophiles
Camera preserves a lot of detail and colors. Seems better than any flagship, with others catching up only in daylight stills. Only U11 is worthy opponent in all tests besides lowlight stills. Wish I could find more.
How come the U11, which has better performance than most phones listed in your performance chart, is not mentioned? We want a comparison between the best phones available in 2017. The U11 tops phones such as S8, V30 , P10, XZ premium, yet its not listed in this review?
Somehow Mate 10 not included in comparison. Far more compact and better looking, better stereo speakers, none of that weird idea of using oled without punchy colors and no blue and green tint while using the device from your desk, external card slot, 3.5mm jack and all that with a price tag you can save probably 400$ as the Pixel always has a horrible price tag outside of the US.