Surficial, 09 Nov 2017Any midranger with near stock android would be faster real world. Granted iphones receive upda... moreAny midranger with near stock android would be faster real world but will get slower after some time(usage). Iphones, they stay the same always.
Love the Community, 09 Nov 2017I used to want the iPhone 8. I meant THIS 8 (iPhone X). Now that I see the score being 4.3, I'... moreThe iPhone 8 is still a great phone ... it's just the iPhone X is ... better.
But even there, it is overshadowed by the 8 Plus's battery life and screen size (which is probably still better for watching 16x9 video.
Tech reviewers will call the form factor old and tired, but really the form factor remained unchanged because there was nothing wrong with it and it worked quite well. I'm probably as ADHD as they are, but I was perfectly happy with my 7 plus until the X came along :-).
And let's not forget the cost ... an iPhone X with 256GB storage is expensive. If you add in AppleCare+ (and you should considering this is a glass phone), you're up to $1348 not including tax.
TheProperGentleman, 09 Nov 2017I do agree with you on the software side. I miss Android KitKat days a lot. After that, while ... moreApple doesn't use Qualcomm SoCs ... they design their own and a lot of folks think their chip design team is at the same level (or better than) Intel's. Their CPUs are (now) 64 bit only (which is why iOS 11 requires 64 bit), and they're using wide data paths, out-of-order execution units, and have made all sorts of architectural changes to improve performance.
Believe it or not, multicore is really only good for games or processes which can be made multithreaded. It's really the single core performance which is the true indicator of performance as a lot of tasks cannot be parallelized.
One performance penalty that Android suffers is that users demand multitasking, which really doesn't help performance of the task in focus. iOS allows very limited multitasking for things like audio playback or navigation, but for applications it pretty much only does suspend and switch (context switching). Who cares if the editor you're not looking at or is sitting in the background is running or not?
I used to want the iPhone 8. I meant THIS 8 (iPhone X). Now that I see the score being 4.3, I'm no longer interested. I'm only interested in phones that is rated 4.5 and above here.
Verne, 09 Nov 2017A lot of the problem with Qualcomm and Samsung and the rest is that now that Apple does their ... moreI do agree with you on the software side. I miss Android KitKat days a lot. After that, while the design got better, the software became more power hungry with each version.
But I'm looking for an answer for this question: Why did Apple made such a big lead if it uses the same ARM cores as other chip makers such as Qualcomm? The lead is not small by any means. Especially when looking in the multi-core performance.
What about X gestures - do they similar to sailfish? I guess, yes. Sailfish and its predecessor have very well implemented this feature, so why this delightness, huh?
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2017Times have changed and apple tried to deliver best of both wolrds...One of the most advanced p... moreGesture navigation and face unlock offers a million times better user experience than anything in the market really. For 10 years I was waiting for buttons (either soft or hard) to go bye bye.
Android soft buttons look clunky by comparison. I always had to root my phones so that to enable gesture navigation (GMD gestures), now Apple does it in-the-house.
There's really no phone like this, everyone I know that has used it for a while can't go back...
Times have changed and apple tried to deliver best of both wolrds...One of the most advanced phones so far, in order to keep up with android competion, but forgot completely about the user experience which mede them so great once.
It´s a mix bag really. Honestly it´s success will depend heavily on apple fans.
For 1200€ it´s certanly not cheap
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2017My iphone 6 has only 1GB of ram,yet is as fast as any 2017'en android in what's matter=day to ... moreAny midranger with near stock android would be faster real world. Granted iphones receive updates for longer but there only faster real world vs heavily skinned androids.
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2017Yeah, buying a new earphones and paying $160 in every two months is a revolution.You do realize that EarPods are wired headphones ($15-29), and AirPods are bluetooth headphones ($160), right?
TheProperGentleman, 09 Nov 2017I think that we need more competition in the SoC department in Android. Qualcomm is really slo... moreA lot of the problem with Qualcomm and Samsung and the rest is that now that Apple does their own SoCs, the market for high end performance chipsets is greatly diminished, and while Android encompasses the vast majority of phone sales, high end flagships are a small part of that total.
Android phone purchasers are also less likely to contribute to on-going revenue streams and are less likely to be willing to purchase applications and services, so the only profit point for handset makers and chip designers are at the point of the handset's purchase.
Add that to the fact that Google puts out more resource hungry OS versions, and the handsets offer lower initial performance, and you have an endless loop of devices running out of gas because they didn't have enough headspace to begin with, and everyone from the SoC/chip makers to the handset makers having little incentive to increase performance so that a phone user can keep his device for a longer period of time.
Take a gander at those single core Geekbench scores, and you'll see that all the SoC makers are using pretty much stock ARM cores, maybe tweaking cache sizes and big/little configurations, but not dealing with any real design at an architectural level.
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2017Another Indian using the non expert opinion of the rookie mrwhotheboss youtube videos. Lol, did you just use "Indian" as a slur?
BTW, no, I'm European.
Also who cares if MrWhosetheBoss is an amateur or not. He's transparent, he *shows* the tests as he runs them, unlike gsmarena who may well cook their numbers and if they don't their tests is very unrealistic (nobody talks to their phone anymore, nobody uses the screen of a phone for merely 2 hours a day)
WickedWilly36, 09 Nov 2017I disagree, GSM tests from my experience give a fair comparison between devices. IPhones gener... moreI didn't say "iphones" I said iphone X.
Iphones (in general) are near the bottom in battery tests , iPhone X is near the top. Is that so hard to understand?
I just gave you a link that it is stress tested and wins over most 2017 flagship. If anything standby time is what keeps it back , not the other way around (screen on time is from outta of this world)...
And nobody (NOBODY!) forces you to use wired headphones , if you don't want to.
You can still use bluetooth or other type of wireless headphones.
But not having 3.5mm jack prevents others from using wired headphones.
Just because you don't need it, doesn't mean others not.
Please, don't act like democrat.
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2017You still don't get it. Nobody stops you from using bluetooth if you like it. But, they stop e... moreActually, Apple is an excellent brand ... and if you have AppleCare+, the reliability and support is second to none (which is why people are willing to pay more for them).
A lot of Android folks who think otherwise are just spending too much time in the echo chamber.
I was a Samsung fan boy, but now which of Samsung flagship features is better than this phone? Nothing, maybe limitless Android OS.
That also find in other cheaper brand like Huawei or even Pioneer brand like nokia...
Now iphone have fast charging, samsung fast wireless charging!, 4k video, waterproof body, that they dont have for year..... even bezel less Amoled screen...
Shame on samsung by making this brilliant Oled for Apple. The key to lose to main competitor...
I think samsung going to (and want to) be 3rd part provider company for screen and chipset like sony that provide image sensor.
Im probably buy this phone...
Anonymous, 09 Nov 2017Once you go Android, you'll never go back to iOS. Yes. You're right. I've used iPhone 5 and 6S. Also many android phones as well. iPhone is a bit boring compared by android. Also don't go for android phones with heavy UI and many features like Samsung. Consider any lightweight UI like stock android or Sony Xperia. They are more smooth.
Verne, 09 Nov 2017The revolution is not having to deal with the tangle of wires.
There are many times when I ... moreYou still don't get it. Nobody stops you from using bluetooth if you like it. But, they stop everyone else (Even you don't know whether or not you're gonna need the jack sometime) from using another option. It's DEvolution.
As for longevity, first, Apple is a crappy brand, so i'm not surprised the wired pair doesn't last. Second, you're (again) not forced to use in-ear phones. I use over the head (But still portable) headphones and they are maybe 3 years old already - still good as new.