Carol, 03 Feb 2018Nobody has them, but only gsmaren. Most probably they did not format after oreo update.Yes, you are right and I have formatted my phone to see the possibilities. There is an overall change but true colours can be seen only in long-term use.
Carol, 05 Feb 2018Which is a paradox, minding the fact that developers did not developed to many apps for the pl... moreI liked WM, but either they were not the apps I used or never went from an unstable or alpha version
Sonyuser85, 05 Feb 2018So you used SE phones before N8, still have them in your pocket?! Thank you for confirming. I ... moreHere, I did some work for you:
Nokia N8 vs Xperia S:
Nokia 808 vs Xperia Z2:
Nokia 808 vs Xperia Z:
Sonyuser85, 04 Feb 2018Contrast or what?! N8 was weaker than any SE at that time on daylight. Just for its flash? Oh ... moreGetting desperate? City lights vs nature and no lights? After downloading and adjusting the gamma, I'd say both photos are equally good, however the N8 one is 16 MP while the Sony one was downscaled to less than 1 megapixel so you can't judge it by any standards. If I took a photo with a 70 megapixel potato and downscaled it to 1 MP it would be just as good.
Apparently you can't tell the difference between contrast and dynamic range?
I said "even without flash" but your conspiracy theory mind only registers the things it wants.
Anyway, very few people wanted to buy SE phones. I liked my K800 but every time I took it in my hand the cheap plastic would squeak like it was wrapped in a plastic bag. Mobile Review said it was the same when the phone was new. My sis had a SE "Live With Walkman" - same thing, squeak squeak. I tried a few new ones in the shop - squeakety squeak. Now they make their flagships from metal and glass, but it's too late. And their cameras are behind - or, more precisely, their image processing. All you have are placebo posts saying "But Sony is good too because I say so". And you accuse the others of doing what you're doing just because you don't know photography but want to look smart. ;-)
Carol, 05 Feb 2018Throwing some links in here does not proove your statement. Also, does not proove is your opin... moreSo you used SE phones before N8, still have them in your pocket?! Thank you for confirming. I throw proofing links, you throw placebo effects!
Placebo effect = Bad disk drives = Fanatic minds = Useless people
AnonD-83644, 05 Feb 2018Lack of apps kill Windows MobileWhich is a paradox, minding the fact that developers did not developed to many apps for the platform, because it did not held billions of users
AnonD-83644, 04 Feb 2018Screen stuttering while scrolling intermittently: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-8/hel... moreThis is one of the situations in which people have to format their devices. Yeah, we all do not like it, but from 7 to 8 their are some pretty major changings. As i first bought the device it went through 5 updates. After that, it was on oreo with the last security patch. It went well for like 3,4 days then it started the sharade. Apps won't cone up, even after reinstalling and al sorts of stupid problems. It is my first android that i actually use as a daily driver and i said. So, nothing changed in the android world, a crappy system is a crappy system after all. Anyhow, i formated, cause i needed to. After that, never had any problems anymore, not one from many discribed here (besides slow camera focus in low light) now i am at the fourth week. I am not saying android is greater then before, cause for me, is still a very fragmented and moronic system. And after so many updates and workarounds is still no where neer windows mobile, when it cones to quallity of working (making me wander, why people like this system). But well, the problems stopped, is a start.
M and M, 04 Feb 201818:9 is smaller than 16:9 only for the same diagonal (a 5.2" screen is bigger in 16:9 ratio), ... moreBeing an android, i think this will sadly end. At this point, Nokia can't fo much, is an Android after all. Probably that is why tgey avoid it with so much passion. But well, maybe oreo has something to say about stable performence. Even tough, is not bringht up ahead.
Sonyuser85, 04 Feb 2018This is not a random opinion, this is real proof. I did used Nokia phones, but did you used So... moreThrowing some links in here does not proove your statement. Also, does not proove is your opinion. I have my n8 still fully working, so, stop being a kid. My proof is in my pocket. Your proof is on some others PC. Bring it on. Let's see which camera is better.
So GSMA Team, since you guys mentioned OnePlus 5T, is there any long-time review for it?
MdN8, 04 Feb 2018Did you actually zoom in on those links? The Sony one has bad dynamic range, it's all black in... moreContrast or what?! N8 was weaker than any SE at that time on daylight. Just for its flash? Oh please!
Need more proof, take that: https://www.esato.com/phonephotos/cam/nokia/n8_00/20160312023799jRN4.jpg
Much smaller sensor, much better contrast:
Carol, 03 Feb 2018I do not need your links man. I do not give opinions on what others have to say. I give opinio... moreThis is not a random opinion, this is real proof. I did used Nokia phones, but did you used Sony phones to share an opinion that is so indolent?!
AnonD-669148, 04 Feb 201818:9 is SMALLER than 16:9!
18:9 looks horrible, too narrow/thin/small!
16:9 without bezels w... more18:9 is smaller than 16:9 only for the same diagonal (a 5.2" screen is bigger in 16:9 ratio), but 18:9 are bigger for the same width. The thing is I don't expect anything on that front, Nokia has always been built like a Mercedes; it's usually tough and reliable but wont give you the latest and greatest trends.
Ive been a windows/nokia fan for as long as it lasted for that reason; no matter how cheap or old your WP was, ti would never hang in a call or slow down to be unusable like it routinely happens with cheap android phones or old iphones,.. hope they stick to the formula now.
From xda-decelopers Nokia 8 forum:
It's happening to me too after Oreo update
After disable glance option from display, the problem disappeared until now.
It has been communicating with the support section of the Nokia (By support App) and reporting the problem
They promised to solve the problem in an update, but they needed more than one communication of the problem
Screen stuttering while scrolling intermittently: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-8/help/screen-stuttering-scrolling-t3718232
Anonymous, 04 Feb 2018now i understood why hmd reduced nokia 8 price from 37thousand to 28 thousand.. because of poo... moreThe problem in Nokia 8 are glance wich causes jittery, hiccups and stutters animations and bad performances in the phone (disabling glance disappears completely) and the Launcher, wich is slow ( replace with Nova)
The reviewer is rather an amator. Most of his comments and complains you would expect from kids, or people that do not have to much idea about devices, let's say...technology in general. Blames a device for things that generally have nothing to do with Nokia, but more with the unstable 8.0 system. throws words he does not understand and has not one idea how to compare, thus sounding more like a child who likes a trendy toy and does not want to try others, so he finds no real motive to claim his toy is better but cry's about how other toys are not in trend anymore. But what i always say, a spoiled kid cannot be satisfied in anyway, tomorrow he will find another trendy toy for you to buy. At the end of the review, the amator sound is still their, actually it never goes away. From battery to screen to whatever... is making peoples eyes hurt from so much lack of profesionalism. After 4 weaks of using this device, the only good pointed out by this kid, is the slow focusing in the dark. And that's about it. The rest is a mix of Â“i have no idea what i am talking aboutÂ“ (i like 18:9 amoled screens better) and "i do not know what device i just reviewd" (i like glass back, uh is cool).