Carol, 03 Feb 2018Nobody has them, but only gsmaren. Most probably they did not format after oreo update.now i understood why hmd reduced nokia 8 price from 37thousand to 28 thousand.. because of poor camera, lags (despite having SD835), cratches (despite having gorilla glass protection) and so on
Sonyuser85, 03 Feb 2018An infected placebo one cannot be rescued like a disk drive that has been scratched and cannot... moreDid you actually zoom in on those links? The Sony one has bad dynamic range, it's all black in the middle, and then you call the N8's image grainy? At least you see what's in the shadows. The other Sony one is taken in sunlight, that's easy for any phone. Better check some comparisons on Smartcam Club or by Steve Litchfield. I remember borrowing a Sony Ericsson Aino which was supposed to be great - it was great, in daylight. In my room with the light on, it just made a dark photo, the same for most phones until I tried a Nokia N97, it simply snapped a normal photo even without flash. I did have a Sony Ericsson K800 before, that one was alright but just 3 MP.
Nobody who knows about photography takes SE cameras too seriously, all the Z1, Z2 etc had excessive artificial sharpening, too much noise reduction and boosted colors. That's not a clean photo. When you take a photo with an N8 or 808 you get a photo that's a bit pale and not too sharpened but clean. It's realistically the most faithful you can get from the sensor. Then, you can load it in Gimp or Photoshop and do whatever you want with it. With Sony (or many other phones) photos you can't, as the photo is already ruined by Sony's processing. Basically, you can get the Sony's photo from a Nokia's photo, but not the other way round.
Sonyuser85, 03 Feb 2018An infected placebo one cannot be rescued like a disk drive that has been scratched and cannot... moreI do not need your links man. I do not give opinions on what others have to say. I give opinions on what i use, used or tried, tested or handeld. You should also try from time to tim...before talking.
So far I can't say I agree about the performance - it has been pretty consistent. Oreo caused some jitteriness after like 180 hours of uptime, which was fixed by simply rebooting the device. Not good, but not a disaster either. It seems so far Oreo 8.1.0 beta has fixed battery life issues as well as the occasional jitters pretty much (so far the only issue with 8.1 beta has been broken music Equalizer - it just does not apply any settings anymore). Annoying, but not a disaster. Hopefully they release next beta soon with February security patch that fixes Equalizer.
In terms of camera and the fingerprint scanner, I fully agree with the interviewer. Modded Gcam app by cstark improves the camera quality quite a bit compared to the Nokia app. The noise is still there, but the HDR+, the colors, low-light photography, focusing and the app itself is a lot better than Nokia's. Hopefully they fix the software.
Right now Nokia 8 can be had for as low as 449 euros unlocked, for that price it is damn good deal, and cheaper than OnePlus 5T and is pretty competitively priced. It's a good phone and good first try, lets hope they learn from this and Nokia 8 (2018) will have killer camera, smaller bezels, better fingerprint scanner and bigger battery.
The problem in Nokia 8 are glance wich causes jittery, hiccups and stutters animations and bad performances in the phone (disabling glance disappears completely) and the Launcher, wich is slow ( replace with Nova)
Carol, 03 Feb 2018You are a placebo man. That device, which i still have, had the best camera in those times. I ... moreAn infected placebo one cannot be rescued like a disk drive that has been scratched and cannot rewrite on it. You are doing the same. I am not a troll. Look at this:
Before N8 was launched Sony had best 5 mp sensors:
From Z to XZ premium, Sony had this special hidden manual camera feature having best 8-12mp shots:
And this old and grainy N8:
Not to mention that most of Nokia phones were having so much lag in every aspect. My friends are a living proof. Anyways have fun with your placebo...
Why does your main Nokia 8 review generally praise the cameras and the slickness of the phone? I have to say, my phone remains slick but the camera isn't as good as my old LG G4.
These are the lines from Nokia 8 review by gsmarena team.
beast and we didn't even need benchmarks to confirm this. A smartphone that packs the latest hardware is destined to be powerful even with the worst software optimizations crippling its performance. Luckily, the Nokia 8 aces this department as well - it's one of the smoothest and fastest smartphones we've seen this year, if not the best. It runs cool under pressure, has no lag when switching apps, and the whole interface feels more fluid than, say, Galaxy S8 or even the OnePlus 5.
If we could pick an Android flagship for the most responsive user experience, it will be probably the Nokia 8. Granted, that's a strong claim - remember, we're saying this before we've tested the Galaxy Note 8 and IFA 2017 and the season's announcements are still around the corner.
But it's true, the Nokia 8 is a pleasure to use. It benefits from a pure and lightweight Android OS, without any extra services or bloatware. Having as little as proprietary software tricks has surely helped the Nokia 8 feel this smooth, but top-of-the-line chipset is surely helping too.
I did not understand why they differ from their opinion now about the performance of Nokia 8
Sonyuser85, 03 Feb 2018At that time Sony had Elm, Hazel, X10 mini with the same 5mp sensor made by Toshiba (close sen... moreYou are a placebo man. That device, which i still have, had the best camera in those times. I owned and used a lot of devices, and that small thin had the best camera, hands down! So, stop using your placebo mind on trolling Nokia cause it ain't cut it boy, Nokias had and still have best cameras.
Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018And after all that hype of 808 camera got 61 rating in dxo mark lol.And, dxzero marc are? Somekind of camera gods? They are biased as a fanboy and their propaganda is to vomit.
Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018Wow, looks like my Nokia 6 is better value for money then. I don't have the fingerprint or Blu... moreNobody has them, but only gsmaren. Most probably they did not format after oreo update.
sh1un1k, 02 Feb 2018It is an annoying phone, you haven't noticed other key problems like the phone stops detecting... moreI have this device and nothing you said, is true🙄. Either you do not have it, have a defect piece, or you have no clue how to wor with android. Especially when updating from a system version to another(it is called, allways format it after big updates like oreo update). It is quite a beast at a normal price.
"You won't ever get those inky, pitch blacks on an LCD, and the Nokia 8's is no exception."
This statement about the blackness of OLED blacks is repeated without thought. Many recent OLED displays, including some highly-praised ones from Samsung, actually have a dark grey substrate rather than black, so with the pixels turned off that's what you get. In a dark room it will appear black, of course, and a patch of it surrounded by lit pixels will appear black by comparison, but a mainly black image in daylight definitely is not "inky, pitch black". I wonder whether phrases like this have just become "accepted wisdom" and hence repeated irrespective of reality?
I have a Nokia 8, after using a Galaxy S8 for months.
Generally I tend to agree with your reviews and conclusions but must say this one seems a little off the mark.
Having used the Nokia 8 with dual SIM, Parallel Space - an app known for using too much battery - and intensive work and personal use, I really do not see the performance issue of lagging you reported. Quite the contrary, in fact, these were sort of common on the S8 under same use.
I also use Nova Launcher, and it performs very well.
Regarding the cameras, that's an area I can't comment much, unfortunately, as I haven't been using it much. The S8 has stellar camera performance and when I got the Nokia 8 I was prepared to get a loss in this area. That's something I'll have to wait to see.
Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018I also have a Nokia 8. I agree to your point. NO lag wahtsever. And I did not factory reset it... moreYep, camera is slow, but the big update that is supposed to bring new camera app and new algorithms developed with Zeiss hopefully polish things up.
The only thing except camera that bothers me is a fingerprint scanner. I don't understand why they made it so small.
Sonyuser85, 03 Feb 2018At that time Sony had Elm, Hazel, X10 mini with the same 5mp sensor made by Toshiba (close sen... moreI used the N8 for 3 years and you have no idea what you're talking about. Even without Xenon it's still making cleaner photos that most phones today. Sony never had a decemt camera apart from placebo 20 megapixels, and everyone who uses Sony sensors has better results than Sony itself. You're just trolling.
Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018you have a defective unit kid, don't generalize your experience, even other brands has the sam... moreI can understand if only I was facing this experience since I faced it previously with LG G2 however I have bought two phones one for me and one for my father. I can understand one unit but both are facing the same problem.
Marty89, 02 Feb 2018I don't get it. I have Nokia 8 and I don't have any issues like lags or slow downs. App drawer... moreI also have a Nokia 8. I agree to your point. NO lag wahtsever. And I did not factory reset it after upgrading to Oreo. The camera is slow BTW.
6 second to take a picture... Jesus... I think Nokia N95 was waster than that...
Not to mention that my Huawei P9 with quick start option can take picture in 0.9 second... P10 of my brother can take it in 0.7s for most of time...