ZloiYuri, 03 Feb 2018That reminds me third generation Luma times. When all devices had issues and were literally cr... moreVery well said! Nokia Windows models were the lamest of all compared to the Symbian ones. Android is the hot spot of another companies not Nokia.
If someone want in their obsession for Nokia to ignore some facts, please go back in time in GsmArena's reviews and also Esato camera collection and see that at least camera was never something special at Nokia except 808 model having, a big fat quality sensor. Zeiss and Xenon was all the time compared to no Zeiss other phone cameras at that time.
So Nokia now compared to the Shakespearean King Lear wanting to regain its crown after many technological bluffs and financial mistakes.
MdN8, 03 Feb 2018Not quite. The 808 even had a separate processor just for images, which no one did before or a... moreAt that time Sony had Elm, Hazel, X10 mini with the same 5mp sensor made by Toshiba (close sensor design to N95), they didn't have Zeiss lens or any kind of special processing, but that was fist time in my life to believe a tiny camera phone can compete with real photography at least on day light. After a few months Nokia released N8 with another crazy placebo effect to its fans and customers adding a 12 mp but with poor results, results that were very close to this model 8 (same Nokia 8 ~ N8 ghost - coincidence or not also 12 mp). The only BIG difference at that time was the high quality blitz and the shots taken indoors with it, that no other brand had on the international market (Sony had 'at home'). That placebo effect of Zeiss and Xenon Flash nowadays will never have the same 'wow' on the world. Sadly this device (Nokia 8) is a real proof that Nokia was an insignificant (only-me) electronics designer at least regarding camera and battery component without its asian partners (with Microsoft and its american partners Nokia was transforming the pure view in pure garbage). Nokia died a long time ago, and no Snake game and no one week battery backup will ever be a must have nowadays for 'connecting people'. NOkia now wants to revive a placebo factor that other companies are doin it so well. This device regarding speed cannot even be comparted to XA1 no to mention XZ premium.
ZloiYuri, 03 Feb 2018That reminds me third generation Luma times. When all devices had issues and were literally cr... moreEx- Nokia never changed?!!!
For you might be wandering Nokia last year sold 8.45 Nokia smartphone which was a sudden take off.
Popular phone, fan favorite phone and the most durable phone of 2017 is the Nokia 6.
Best start-up selling smartphone of 2017 is Nokia.
Fastest software update is Nokia Android.
Best UI experience phone is Nokia Android.
* STOP THINKING THAT NOKIA IS DEAD ALREADY. NOKIA IS A 200 YEAR OLD GODLY BRAND!!!!
Radiff, 03 Feb 2018I dont have any of that issue. The only issue is camera result, but its no problem since i can... moreThat reminds me third generation Luma times. When all devices had issues and were literally crap. Any critics were trolled with the same sentence - I have no such issues. Most of them never even holded that phone in arms. And now we see the same. Ex-nokia employee never changing. For those who still wandering how could Nokia failed in phone business. That's why.
Anonymous, 03 Feb 2018And after all that hype of 808 camera got 61 rating in dxo mark lol.It got 77 the first time it was tested, 81 for image quality but video was worse. Read the review on GSMArena.
just try to compare nokia 6 vs nokia 8 camera, from gsmarena's reviews.
nokia 6 intenational version camera is even better than nokia 8 camera. just weird.
Wow, looks like my Nokia 6 is better value for money then. I don't have the fingerprint or Bluetooth issues, no lag/stutter in launcher and Google camera app takes good pictures.
With better build and larger screen
I dont have any of that issue. The only issue is camera result, but its no problem since i can install google camera app. Bluetooth good, fingerprint okay.
I think this new Nokia played it safe. Maybe a slightly boring phone. But solid build quality just look at the test at JerryRigEverything.
The pricing is alright to.
The new phones looks promising Nokia 6 (2018 edition) a Nokia 7 Plus are on its way to. And probably a new Nokia 8 Sirocco. But we will wait to MWC 2018 to see them be launched.
ren122, 03 Feb 2018anyone know who supplies the display to nokia? LG , I think so...
sh1un1k, 02 Feb 2018It is an annoying phone, you haven't noticed other key problems like the phone stops detecting... moreyou have a defective unit kid, don't generalize your experience, even other brands has the same issue for some of their manufactured products, if you update OS in any phone, if you have issues, reset the phone to factory
Sonyuser85, 03 Feb 2018If I am not mistaken a few years ago when Nokia opened the doors to the 808 model, an imaging ... morenot quite true actually. Camera lens does matter because its the first thing the light hitting the camera makes contact with. if you don't have a quality lens it wont be sharp and it will have abberation/chromatic.
Nokai had 3 things that were unique that not even sony or apple/samsung could match. The specialized sensor (now owned by sony), the software needed to combine pixels now used by sony and others, and the Zeiss lens which is the best lens company in the world. All these 3 things is what made them stand out.
now Nokia is dead. And sony is the one set to be able to replace such camera prowess but only if sony improves software since they have quality lenses and good sensors. its only the third piece they lack.
As it's the first flagship after the separation from Microsoft, it would have been good to see how the phone compares with the last flagship (Lumia 950). Obviously there are various aspects which are better, but would have been good to see where you felt they faltered (or taken a step back).
Sonyuser85, 03 Feb 2018If I am not mistaken a few years ago when Nokia opened the doors to the 808 model, an imaging ... moreNot quite. The 808 even had a separate processor just for images, which no one did before or after, and was known for using the 41 megapixel sensor to make ultra high quality 5 or 8 megapixel pics made from having several pixels combined into one. When it was released, Damian Dinning, Nokia's then-head of camera department, gave an interview to GSMArena, he did the same when the N8 was released (I still have that one). There were other prominent engineers too, like Juha Alakarhu and Ari Partinen. They usually did extensive testing to make sure that their flagship cameras gave as natural as possible images in all possible conditions, and those were well known for "unprocessed" look (no boosting of contrast, sharpness or color to make images more attractive), partly thanks to the camera sensors, as you say - but it did take some software wizardry to get there. As for Zeiss - who knows, phone lens aren't so big as to make a significant difference, but it doesn't hurt to have some extra assurance of quality.
However, none of those people work for Nokia's phone division nowadays, and I assume they just buy generic sensors where everyone else buys them. This one's camera is just another camera.
A first effort with Android OS..
The 8 of 2018 is different and then comes the Super 9 and 10. Bring it on.