Anonymous, 15 Mar 2018Samsung was releasing very capable mirrorless cameras. Don't know why they decided to give up ... moreYup, samsung release a capable mirrorless camera, but capable is not enough at that time, it need to be revolutionary to take the attention of consumer especially pro's
just look what sony, fujifilm and panasonic has done
in term of product, japan is not only the one holding back feature, the same can be said to cupertino, even if we take sony camera, the latest one is alluring for it's price, the phone while lacking jack(maybe to boost the wireless headset sale), they didn't really hold back
samsung on the other hand, yup, they give everything they can, but they always messed up something in the process, like the software stability in their phone
Anonymous, 15 Mar 2018Mate 10 Pro is bigger and wider. It has oled that is thinner than lcd. Cameras are smaller... moreGood luck with the software update of you Huawei phone. The regular mate 10 has better screen at regular 16:9 ratio no black bars but the software update is not good and security patches last for only two years unlike other OEMs who supports their flagship for 3 to 4 years.
Tann Hauser, 15 Mar 2018And yet higher mpx on Xperia does make a difference in good light photo.
In low light this on... moreAnd I don't get it how you can call lowlight photos excellent?!?
So much noise and so less details compared to Samsung S8 series and iPhone. Even other manufacturers doing better job.
Yann, 15 Mar 2018Most phones these days can shot great photos in daylight. That is not a problem for Nokia, HTC... moreAnd yet higher mpx on Xperia does make a difference in good light photo.
In low light this one is on par and even better than some top low light shooters among phones today.
What does your supposed XZ Premium have to do with quality of low light photos of this phone?!
The lowlights are excellent.
Stop being circumstantialy bia.
I ll give you a hint.
Under camera section in the rev, there is a slider to show improvement in lowlight with Bionz ISP on this one.
And it is a big leap, not minor improvement.
So please, quit misleading readers here out of....
no, realy, I dont get it, whats with the fury?
Anonymous, 15 Mar 2018Mate 10 Pro is bigger and wider.
It has oled that is thinner than lcd.
Cameras are smaller... moreI don't think so!
There's not only the physical dimensions that defines a battery capacity...
Don't forget also that there's not only a battery that should fit in this minimum 6 mm (for higher thicknesses there are no problems).
That's all I can say for you, you seem focusing on something and different opinions than yours seem to disturb you.
Have a great day!
Yann, 15 Mar 2018Stop writing lies. Mate 10 Pro is only 1.2mm taller and 2.5mm wider. And is 7.9mm thick, despi... moreMate 10 Pro is bigger and wider.
It has oled that is thinner than lcd.
Cameras are smaller.
The 11mm is at center, near frames size is 6mm.
Ellio74, 15 Mar 2018I thought there was "No point to write anymore"...
Isn't that taller and larger? Now transl... moreActually, maybe I can teach you something about batteries.
The phone thickness of 6mm is just few mm from the wider and higher part of the phone. Hals cm from all sides the phone became extremely thicker. There is enough space for bigger battery. Standard battery pack in phones these days is about 3.5-5mm thick. Do not tell me that there is not enough space.
I need the Premium...
Cant wait anymore....
Tann Hauser, 15 Mar 2018Little improvements in camera?
The frikin thing shoots excellent lowlight, superb daylight ph... moreMost phones these days can shot great photos in daylight. That is not a problem for Nokia, HTC, Xiaomi, OnePlus etc. The difference came from lowlight. And there is the problem of SONY. My XZP can't do decent lowlight photos without manual mode and this is slow. Not to mention that moving is disaster. But that's what you take with f2.0. yea, and 1080p at 960fps is just about 0.06 sec. Half of 720p. Thanks. It is gimmick. It is very hard to catch the moment.
Anonymous, 15 Mar 2018Well, I tested it. XZ2 camera is far worse than note 4 camera. Too much noise.Gsmarena's comparison tool is here:
Oh I can find the Note 4 wash out the color and wipe the details, S9 better than note 4, conclusion XZ2 more impressive!
Yann, 15 Mar 2018Stop writing lies. Mate 10 Pro is only 1.2mm taller and 2.5mm wider. And is 7.9mm thick, despi... moreI thought there was "No point to write anymore"...
Isn't that taller and larger? Now translate that in termes of battery with the according formula factor. I'm not going to teach you how batteries are made, should I?
I'm talking about numbers, these don't lie, and I use the exact ones, not just the one that fits what I'm saying as you do.
That's a fact: the XZ2 thickness goes FROM 6 mm TO 11.1 mm. At its thickest point it's thick, and at the thinnest point the it's quite thin. That's it!
From the pictures that I've seen here, the XZ2 is a sensible upgrade over the XZP and is on the level of the others for low light photography, now, if your opinion is different, that's it! Try to convince another one!
Yann, 15 Mar 2018Stop writing lies. Mate 10 Pro is only 1.2mm taller and 2.5mm wider. And is 7.9mm thick, despi... moreLittle improvements in camera?
The frikin thing shoots excellent lowlight, superb daylight photo, records true 10bit hdr video and 1080p at 960 fps.
The phone is 6 mm egde sliding up to center 11 mm....equates to some 8,5 mm thick flatback phone. Has a great lcd that is 1mm thicker than oled, 4x bigger DVS vibration inside than usual, biggest camera sensor, and most probably the graphic cooling plate as prior Xperias
I guess you must have Xray eyes to know inside engineering of this phone.
And you call him misleading?
Mate 10 pro is a good phone, but your need to bash this one is....why? Whats your problem here?
Go enjoy your Mate.
Anonymous, 15 Mar 2018Samsung was releasing very capable mirrorless cameras. Don't know why they decided to give up ... moreSamsung does the same...
All SD835 phones have QC 3.0, S8 and N8 have 2.0.
" Wireless" charging is even slower than usb charging.
The 4K recording is limited, 10 min on S8 and now 5 min on S9.
Hybrid slot on flagships, just like others.
They say front cam has HDR, but always overexpose like phones without HDR.
Vic, 15 Mar 2018Looking at the comments right after the article and 1 day after it definitely feels like that ... moreDear it is marketing strategies, but from the competitors. We can't claim it is worst or best but certainly flooding negative comments must be the priority to pull down the sales.
Mark, 15 Mar 2018Re design copy of htc u11, exactly my comment when it first came out. The difference tho is s... moreWhen place the phone on table a call coming the XZ2 could have shake well and turn a round on the table but non HTC will do so.
-. -, 15 Mar 2018I think it won't come true, just look samsung attempt on mirrorless market, since they're not ... moreSamsung was releasing very capable mirrorless cameras. Don't know why they decided to give up halfway. The thing about Japanese companies is that they tend to offer customers crippled products. One or more important features will be missing. Sony is doing it with XZ2 and XZ2 Compact. They did it with their mirrorless cameras, by withholding full touch screen functionality, whereas Canon has it on their cheapest model. Canon has also been accused of introducing only incremental upgrades to their cameras. On the other hand, Samsung went full steam with their NX1 and NX500. They continue to offer SD card slot and 3.5mm headphone jack, unlike Apple. They do not hold back features, and that there is one thing that I appreciate.
Ellio74, 15 Mar 2018The Mate 10 Pro is quite larger and it's design is flatter... As I said batteries design isn't... moreStop writing lies. Mate 10 Pro is only 1.2mm taller and 2.5mm wider. And is 7.9mm thick, despite SONY 11.1mm thickness.
In such body they fit 4000mAh battery vs 3200mAh.
Lowlight photography on Mate 10 Pro is much better than my XZP. A little improvements will not catch even Mate 10 Pro phone.
Obvious you're misleading.