Ellio74, 15 Mar 2018I thought there was "No point to write anymore"...
Isn't that taller and larger? Now transl... moreActually, maybe I can teach you something about batteries.
The phone thickness of 6mm is just few mm from the wider and higher part of the phone. Hals cm from all sides the phone became extremely thicker. There is enough space for bigger battery. Standard battery pack in phones these days is about 3.5-5mm thick. Do not tell me that there is not enough space.
Tann Hauser, 15 Mar 2018Little improvements in camera?
The frikin thing shoots excellent lowlight, superb daylight ph... moreMost phones these days can shot great photos in daylight. That is not a problem for Nokia, HTC, Xiaomi, OnePlus etc. The difference came from lowlight. And there is the problem of SONY. My XZP can't do decent lowlight photos without manual mode and this is slow. Not to mention that moving is disaster. But that's what you take with f2.0. yea, and 1080p at 960fps is just about 0.06 sec. Half of 720p. Thanks. It is gimmick. It is very hard to catch the moment.
Anonymous, 15 Mar 2018Well, I tested it. XZ2 camera is far worse than note 4 camera. Too much noise.Gsmarena's comparison tool is here:
Oh I can find the Note 4 wash out the color and wipe the details, S9 better than note 4, conclusion XZ2 more impressive!
Yann, 15 Mar 2018Stop writing lies. Mate 10 Pro is only 1.2mm taller and 2.5mm wider. And is 7.9mm thick, despi... moreI thought there was "No point to write anymore"...
Isn't that taller and larger? Now translate that in termes of battery with the according formula factor. I'm not going to teach you how batteries are made, should I?
I'm talking about numbers, these don't lie, and I use the exact ones, not just the one that fits what I'm saying as you do.
That's a fact: the XZ2 thickness goes FROM 6 mm TO 11.1 mm. At its thickest point it's thick, and at the thinnest point the it's quite thin. That's it!
From the pictures that I've seen here, the XZ2 is a sensible upgrade over the XZP and is on the level of the others for low light photography, now, if your opinion is different, that's it! Try to convince another one!
Yann, 15 Mar 2018Stop writing lies. Mate 10 Pro is only 1.2mm taller and 2.5mm wider. And is 7.9mm thick, despi... moreLittle improvements in camera?
The frikin thing shoots excellent lowlight, superb daylight photo, records true 10bit hdr video and 1080p at 960 fps.
The phone is 6 mm egde sliding up to center 11 mm....equates to some 8,5 mm thick flatback phone. Has a great lcd that is 1mm thicker than oled, 4x bigger DVS vibration inside than usual, biggest camera sensor, and most probably the graphic cooling plate as prior Xperias
I guess you must have Xray eyes to know inside engineering of this phone.
And you call him misleading?
Mate 10 pro is a good phone, but your need to bash this one is....why? Whats your problem here?
Go enjoy your Mate.
Anonymous, 15 Mar 2018Samsung was releasing very capable mirrorless cameras. Don't know why they decided to give up ... moreSamsung does the same...
All SD835 phones have QC 3.0, S8 and N8 have 2.0.
" Wireless" charging is even slower than usb charging.
The 4K recording is limited, 10 min on S8 and now 5 min on S9.
Hybrid slot on flagships, just like others.
They say front cam has HDR, but always overexpose like phones without HDR.
Vic, 15 Mar 2018Looking at the comments right after the article and 1 day after it definitely feels like that ... moreDear it is marketing strategies, but from the competitors. We can't claim it is worst or best but certainly flooding negative comments must be the priority to pull down the sales.
Mark, 15 Mar 2018Re design copy of htc u11, exactly my comment when it first came out. The difference tho is s... moreWhen place the phone on table a call coming the XZ2 could have shake well and turn a round on the table but non HTC will do so.
-. -, 15 Mar 2018I think it won't come true, just look samsung attempt on mirrorless market, since they're not ... moreSamsung was releasing very capable mirrorless cameras. Don't know why they decided to give up halfway. The thing about Japanese companies is that they tend to offer customers crippled products. One or more important features will be missing. Sony is doing it with XZ2 and XZ2 Compact. They did it with their mirrorless cameras, by withholding full touch screen functionality, whereas Canon has it on their cheapest model. Canon has also been accused of introducing only incremental upgrades to their cameras. On the other hand, Samsung went full steam with their NX1 and NX500. They continue to offer SD card slot and 3.5mm headphone jack, unlike Apple. They do not hold back features, and that there is one thing that I appreciate.
Ellio74, 15 Mar 2018The Mate 10 Pro is quite larger and it's design is flatter... As I said batteries design isn't... moreStop writing lies. Mate 10 Pro is only 1.2mm taller and 2.5mm wider. And is 7.9mm thick, despite SONY 11.1mm thickness.
In such body they fit 4000mAh battery vs 3200mAh.
Lowlight photography on Mate 10 Pro is much better than my XZP. A little improvements will not catch even Mate 10 Pro phone.
Obvious you're misleading.
XtremE16, 15 Mar 2018Breaking News :-
Samsung wants to become SonyÂ’s worst nightmare
https://www.sammobile.c... moreI think it won't come true, just look samsung attempt on mirrorless market, since they're not fighting sony mobile here, they're fighting sony camera business
But still, competition is always better
Nick, 15 Mar 2018Ok let's be real here, I have Huawei Mate 10 Pro and it packs 4000mAh battery in only marginal... moreThe Mate 10 Pro is quite larger and it's design is flatter... As I said batteries design isn't as versatile as phone designs. It is flat, and the curvature of the back of the Sony is quite important: it starts from 6 mm and goes up to 11,1 mm. So, compared to the Huawei, it has the disadvantages of being smaller and having a design that is "less friendly" for the battery.
And people saying that this phone has a small battery for its thickness aren't precise, what they are saying is misleading...
Then as I saw some pictures sample, I can keep up with the S9, which is supposed to have a great camera. After that if you mean by "better looking photo", images that can look a bit different from the true scene, that's a matter of taste.
Upgrade the camera module? It's still a great sensor and lens, and having a wide aperture isn't the best in every scenario. OIS would have been a good thing, but they've chosen another way as they've shown us at MWC. And having 2 sensors for the moment is quite useless, just look at the Pixel 2!
There's only one bigger vibration motor on the XZ2, on the Compact it's a traditional one.
You don't understand what I'm saying. Of course I know EIS is used only when recording videos, and yes it's better than some OIS. I never talked about combined OIS and EIS...
No! The only benefit of OIS on a Sony phone would be for low light photography, and as you may know (or not) Sony has introduced a new dual sensor solution at MWC for low light photos and videos, I'll let you check that!
Ellio74, 15 Mar 2018Design is a combination of past Sony designs (check out the Xperia Neo, the Z3 or the Vivaz fo... moreFalse, lies, still 11mm, and 17%... And you say that like it's a surprise or good thing... clearly it should have been way bigger than 17% bigger
Ellio74, 15 Mar 2018Design is a combination of past Sony designs (check out the Xperia Neo, the Z3 or the Vivaz fo... moreOk let's be real here, I have Huawei Mate 10 Pro and it packs 4000mAh battery in only marginally wider and taller, but significantly(by 3.2mm)thinner body than XZ2, whose battery capacity is mere 3180mAh which is simply disappointing considering how large it is. Mate 10 Pro also generally shoots better-looking photos, comes with louder speakers, has smaller bezels hence larger screen-to-body ratio and doesn't have a fingerprint scanner in an awkward position compared to XZ2.
With the thickness of 11.1mm, Sony could've easily upgraded its camera module and crammed in OIS and brighter F1.6 aperture lens along with its large sensor. They could've fit 2 camera modules instead of 1 and packed 4000mAh battery inside. But they didn't do that. Instead they put 2 vibration motors which resemble Apple's Taptic Engine and decided to take away the headphone jack which everybody strongly believed would not be removed from Sony smartphones. It's well over 1cm thick, so they can't use an excuse that "there was no space to put one" unlike Apple did with their iPhone 7 Plus 2 years ago. And yet you're still here to defend how Sony's EIS(that works in recording video ONLY btw) can outperform OIS, which makes no sense considering the obvious fact that having both is better than only having EIS, which, you can tell if you look at Pixel 2's photo and video performance.
I'm pretty sure if Sony's XZ2 Premium(or whatever they call it) will come with OIS and dual camera modules, you will burst out how OIS can greatly improve picture quality and how Galaxy S9/iPhone will have no chance against it.
Breaking News :-
Samsung wants to become SonyÂ’s worst nightmare
Yann, 15 Mar 2018You definitely working for SONY or you're just blind fan.
I own XZP, but i'm not blind.
This... moreproblem with sony is probably most of its technical engineers dont use theirown products. so they cannot feel the weaknesses.
most of apple technical engineers use iphone as daily driver
most of samsung technical engineers use galaxy as daily driver
most of sony technical engineers use iphone as daily driver (because most Japaneses love iphone)
[deleted post]Most certainly true, even to this date. ;-)
Ellio74, 15 Mar 2018I might deceive you but I don't work for Sony! ;)
I have too an XZP, nice phone! Lol
Not rea... moreI can ask you the same - did you try it to say that is comfortable? Look the video review how it wobbles on the desk! Fact!
Incredible EIS doesn't work in lowlight conditions. You make 90% daylight? What light is a restaurant? A bar? An apartment? Office? Are they daylight? You're joking me.
Nope. You can't say the same. Most of the comments are negative about the design and the phone as a whole.
Average thickness? Dude, this is new level of measurement! Congratulations!
You're too biased. No point to write anymore.