Galaxy S9 vs. Xperia XZ2 shootout Comments
- Grandaelus
- mnP
Anonymous, 09 Apr 2018Omg. Please use logic. Clearly in that photo they don't have the galaxy in cinema mode or what... moreFinally someone gets it.
As for the "official tester": he didn't think about using a same custom camera app to compare. Camera apps are able to transform and misform so much from color till gamma and so on.
If this was a serious comparison, they had used one standard software.
- Grandaelus
- mnP
lek, 10 Apr 2018the noise is still there, whether you zoom in/crop the image, especially in a night scene.
we... moreYet you are unable to point out the very, imaginary, advantages.
Sony has always ruled cameras in phones already because of the lens.
It is always by all means unfair judging cameras by their software, where true comparisons are needed with the same software.
Newer samsungs have a slight more light sensitivity, but is nothing compared to sony. Because sony has a constant minimum, wether it is tele or wide. Most pictures, even selfies, are made with tele. Where wide is only active/used when taking pictures within less than 1m distance. Even a full meter is reached very easily.
So with Sony his constant performance and Carl Seiz lens, how is a mass producer a rival... Logic cannot explain.
- AnonD-650919
- xCD
Anonymous, 09 Apr 2018Omg. Please use logic. Clearly in that photo they don't have the galaxy in cinema mode or what... moreSony' s picture seems to be true to life. Real life image is better than reducing all noise which makes the picture edited or fake. The software of Galaxy S9 makes picture clean as posssible. It doesn't appear natural.
- AnonD-754421
- j%G
AnonD-186803, 15 Apr 2018Not at all. Just the truth. The two companies take different approaches to handling detail ... moreI've seen very few instances where the Samsung actually did smudged out detail compared to the Sony, it's because the Sony retains so much noise (somehow even at base ISO, no less, I haven't seen so much luminance noise from my Note 8's RAW outputs below ISO100) that it's almost impossible to make out the finest pixel-grade details.
- AnonD-754421
- j%G
Well, at least XZ2's light trails are better than P20Pro's ghosts.
- Anonymous
- vV5
BeeAnt, 23 Apr 2018I'm using Sony since the day of W950i till Xperia X. And I admit that they had bad control in... moreHigh dynamic range on Samsung have wash out some of the color and the detail.
- BeeAnt
- 61F
I'm using Sony since the day of W950i till Xperia X.
And I admit that they had bad control in dynamic range. But this time around, it all changes!
Now let's waif for S9+ versus XZ2 Premium ;)
- AnonD-186803
- 3ad
Anonymous, 14 Apr 2018Nice twisting attemptNot at all. Just the truth.
The two companies take different approaches to handling detail vs. Noise. To criticise the Sony without recognising the issues with the Samsung is just fanboying.
It's one of the things I like about GSMs comparison, they recognise that there are pros and cons to both.
- Anonymous
- kXE
AnonD-186803, 14 Apr 2018It's there and softened on the Samsung. To a point where it eradicates some fine detail it sho... moreNice twisting attempt
- AnonD-186803
- mE0
Anonymous, 10 Apr 2018No. Is simply because it's there and sharpenedIt's there and softened on the Samsung. To a point where it eradicates some fine detail it should capture - see the shutters. They're wrong.
Your point?
- lek
- PA7
Tann Hauser, 10 Apr 2018Why thank you for your concern. But Us Sony users certainly wont need those tripods, as 1/8 se... moreExtremely noise pic maybe..? =)) Done here..
- lek
- PA7
Tann Hauser, 10 Apr 2018Why thank you for your concern. But Us Sony users certainly wont need those tripods, as 1/8 se... moreExtremely noise pic maybe..? =)) Done here..
- Anonymous
- I8m
AnonD-186803, 09 Apr 2018Noise is not a "problem" unless you crop 150%+ and if you crop to identical depth to the S9 (I... moreNo. Is simply because it's there and sharpened
- Tann Hauser
- 0uD
lek, 10 Apr 2018I prefer Samsung's output, day and night scene.
Okay, now I get it, pixelpeeping is not fair ... moreWhy thank you for your concern. But Us Sony users certainly wont need those tripods, as 1/8 sec shutter is perfectly usable handhelded, and with that 1/8 sec shutter provides great results, with lower auto ISO, and so much preserved detail as is presented in this here shootout.
And is just 0.2 sec more to handhold than what S9 uses in auto, even on tripod.
If I want extremely great lowlight shots, I ll get a tripod tho, yes.
- lek
- PA7
Tann Hauser, 10 Apr 2018Here, you like judging photo by pixelpeeping, so I cropped it for you to see the pixels, up cl... moreI prefer Samsung's output, day and night scene.
Okay, now I get it, pixelpeeping is not fair for Sony ;)
Btw, make sure the tripod is with y'all Sony boys when the night comes =))
- lek
- PA7
Tann Hauser, 10 Apr 2018Here, you like judging photo by pixelpeeping, so I cropped it for you to see the pixels, up cl... moreI prefer Samsung's output, day and night scene.
Okay, now I get it, pixelpeeping is not fair for Sony ;)
Btw, make sure the tripod is with y'all Sony boys when the night comes =))
- AnonD-186803
- 3ad
lek, 10 Apr 2018the noise is still there, whether you zoom in/crop the image, especially in a night scene.
we... moreEh?
Zoom in further on the Samsung: I guarantee you'll see some noise.
- Tann Hauser
- m@c
lek, 10 Apr 2018the noise is still there, whether you zoom in/crop the image, especially in a night scene.
we... moreHere, you like judging photo by pixelpeeping, so I cropped it for you to see the pixels, up close:
Which is better at crop? https://imgur.com/gallery/aFsFt
I would give the XZ2 an obvious advantage, It just got better looking and more beautiful square pixels, and I just dont see the noise you are talking about.
- lek
- PA7
AnonD-186803, 09 Apr 2018Noise is not a "problem" unless you crop 150%+ and if you crop to identical depth to the S9 (I... morethe noise is still there, whether you zoom in/crop the image, especially in a night scene.
well Samsung's cam obviously has more advantage and advance feature than Sony. better luck next time ;)
- AnonD-186803
- 3ad
lek, 07 Apr 2018Bruh.. You're the one who did limited, limited your mind to defend XZ2.
It's not all about no... moreNoise is not a "problem" unless you crop 150%+ and if you crop to identical depth to the S9 (IE account for the different focal length of the lens and the different resolution of the sensor) it disappears.
You're seeing it more in these images because the level of crop is more on the Sony due to the extra resolution and the difference in lens, meaning that GSMs crop tool goes further in on the xperia. You can clearly see it doing so because when you crop the image you're further towards the subject and when you look at it uncropped it's further away.
Crowing "more noise" in such a comparison is resolutely ignoring all of the other advantages, as well as forgiving the Samsung for getting some of the textures in these shots just plain wrong.
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